i can beat a mustang 2011 with my L99 with this tools?

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by macwest

I disagree both are evenly matched cars stock for stock. Comes down to driver. However, if the mustang owner bought the track pack 3.73 gears, suspension upgrade... then they would have the advantage.

No track pack for the 2011s, which would be the suspension upgrade.

There is the brembo brake package and the 3.73 package.

And this particular camaro cannot outrun a mustang, it's close, but in a drivers race anyone can win, in this case as the speeds get higher the mustang's advantage get's stronger.

[macwest]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

No track pack for the 2011s, which would be the suspension upgrade.

There is the brembo brake package and the 3.73 package.

And this particular camaro cannot outrun a mustang, it's close, but in a drivers race anyone can win, in this case as the speeds get higher the mustang's advantage get's stronger.

My bad on the name. Not a ford guy.

When speeds get higher i am not sure if that is totally true since Camaro has similar HP but more torque which would carry through all the gears.

Inside line puts the camaro 0-75 at .3 faster then the mustang but puts the mustang at 0-45 quicker by .1
http://www.insideline.com/ford/musta...camaro-ss.html

[ViperTomcat]

The fastest Mustangs, stock, so far have been the auto 5.0's.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by macwest

My bad on the name. Not a ford guy.

When speeds get higher i am not sure if that is totally true since Camaro has similar HP but more torque which would carry through all the gears.

Inside line puts the camaro 0-75 at .3 faster then the mustang but puts the mustang at 0-45 quicker by .1
http://www.insideline.com/ford/musta...camaro-ss.html

Here's a tip.....

At higher speeds, the lighter car is favored. :flag1:

[macwest]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Here's a tip.....

At higher speeds, the lighter car is favored. :flag1:

When there is a substantial difference...At weight difference of these two cars there is not a big diference...Looking at different test results show mustang launches quicker camaro is faster in long run.

[NoMercy]

Id say no! Look at my horsepower numbers in my sig, I only pulled three cars on my son's STOCK 5.0 to about 140!!Those little bastards are fast!

[Z/28orSs]

Originally Posted by NoMercy

Id say no! Look at my horsepower numbers in my sig, I only pulled three cars on my son's STOCK 5.0 to about 140!!Those little bastards are fast!

you have done a nice job on ur SS no just wotk on the driver J/k sik ride tho !!!

[DJ ATOMIX]

I dont know why but people never seem to bring the paddle shifters into the equation. If you got them on your L99, you'll have a much better chance in the quarter mile. On my v6 auto with them compared to using just automatic mode, my 1/4 mile time was cut from 6 seconds down to 5.6 seconds (Alot!) shifting at a littl higher rpm than the when the camaro does in auto mode.

From what I've notice, I can almost be certain the L99 will do simular. In comparison factor for me, the v6 manual hits 5.5 on the quarter mile driver depending.


Shaun

[CyberPredator]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Here's a tip.....

At higher speeds, the lighter car is favored. :flag1:

false. At lower speeds the lighter car is favored. what is favored at higher speeds is aerodynamics and power. Good example of this is Motor bikes that run 10's in the 1/4 top out at ~165. Bugatti Veyron that weighs 4200lbs is still faster top end then cars that have a better power to weight ratio than it.

[SGOS252382]

If you had a tune, I'd say yes (or it would be darn close).

A "good" tune is worth an easy .2-.3 in the 1/4 mile.

My L99 ran consistant 12.9s (tune only) in 70 degree weather.

BTW about needing a full exhaust, intake, and a tune to run with a stock 5.0. With intake, full exhaust, and a tune, I was easily beating (by car lengths) a stock 5.0 Mustang GT. It was a beat down (same day, same track).

But the L99 A6 needs a good tune (needs to get rid of some of that Torque management). Tunes make around 30 lb ft of torque right in the sweet spot on the L99s.

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by DJ ATOMIX

I dont know why but people never seem to bring the paddle shifters into the equation. If you got them on your L99, you'll have a much better chance in the quarter mile. On my v6 auto with them compared to using just automatic mode, my 1/4 mile time was cut from 6 seconds down to 5.6 seconds (Alot!) shifting at a littl higher rpm than the when the camaro does in auto mode.

From what I've notice, I can almost be certain the L99 will do simular. In comparison factor for me, the v6 manual hits 5.5 on the quarter mile driver depending.


Shaun

I'm sure you mean 0-60.

[macwest]

Add a tune you will be happy. If you buy a canned tune you will want to enrichen up yout PE. In my location my camaro, LS3, stock seemd to be lean and when I added a CAI it seemd to be worse. Added in a tune then adjusted WOT and PE and it made a difference.

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

I'm sure you mean 0-60.

I immediately began checking out his list of mods when I saw that "qtr mile" time....

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by CyberPredator

false. At lower speeds the lighter car is favored. what is favored at higher speeds is aerodynamics and power. Good example of this is Motor bikes that run 10's in the 1/4 top out at ~165. Bugatti Veyron that weighs 4200lbs is still faster top end then cars that have a better power to weight ratio than it.

I disagree with you. Weight plays a part through the entire speed and rpm-range. The reason that Bugatti can reach 267mph, over a Corvette ZR1, and other lighter cars, is 2 big things, POWER and TORQUE. Despite the car weighing 4,300+ pounds, 1100+hp to the wheels and 1,000+torque carries all of that weight to those speeds. You cannot seriously tell me that if you put that same power in a lighter car, say the Z06, it won't be well into the 230+mph range well before the Bugatti reaches that speed.

Prime example, the SSC Ultimate Aero, before Bugatti came up with the SS edition(1200hp), the SSC Ultimate Aero was walking all over a Bugatti, on every level. The makers of the SSC tested it against a Bugatti in Saudi Arabia, and it was reported that it ran away from the Bugatti after just 60mph. Note to mention, it was the fastest car in the world before the Bugatti Veyron SS. It had a top speed of 257mph and a projected speed of 273mph,....yet it ran out of road before it could accomplish that. With all that being said,...when you add power/torque, and cut the weight of a car, expect the performance to go UP.

If you had a tune, I'd say yes (or it would be darn close).

A "good" tune is worth an easy .2-.3 in the 1/4 mile.

My L99 ran consistant 12.9s (tune only) in 70 degree weather.

BTW about needing a full exhaust, intake, and a tune to run with a stock 5.0. With intake, full exhaust, and a tune, I was easily beating (by car lengths) a stock 5.0 Mustang GT. It was a beat down (same day, same track).

But the L99 A6 needs a good tune (needs to get rid of some of that Torque management). Tunes make around 30 lb ft of torque right in the sweet spot on the L99s.

I agree! That's all the L99 really needs to overcome a 5.0. Headers+exhaust, cai, and a good tune.