Need Help w/ Cam Selection - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

*mlee* · 02-20-2011, 03:01 PM

Looking to purchase a Cam next week and thought I'd run it by the experts so I can make an educated proposal to my tuner.

- This is for a Naturally Aspirated setup.
- L99 w/ 3200 stall torque converter
- will be installing LS7 lifters and deleting DOD and VVT
- Scoggin Dickey CNC heads w/ Manley valves and 660 lift springs

Here's some of the cams I have at the top of my list to give you and idea of my considerations. Thanks in advance for the input...

Highlighted yellow is my selecton...

...and here's the finishedVIDEO

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Darth_Emma · 02-20-2011, 03:37 PM

Is there any chance you'll ever add a blower?

*mlee* · 02-20-2011, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Is there any chance you'll ever add a blower?

Yes... but I'll swap cams if I do. Going NOS for now...

Probably the main reason I'm NOT going w/ a blower is a want a big cam...

thesnoopster · 02-20-2011, 09:45 PM

You doing VVT or LS3 conversion ???

Bell040 · 02-20-2011, 11:52 PM

I like your table. I am also shopping for cams. Did you pull this from a larger table or did you put this together yourself?

I would like to see the LS3 stock cam, GM hotcam, LS9, and most of the aftermarket cams in a single table. Anyone see a table like this floating around?

EDIT: answered my own question :http://www.gmhightechperformance.com.../photo_03.html

Kilo-9 · 02-21-2011, 12:01 AM

The last one in your list from MTI looks like the same specs as Vengeance's Stage III which is 231/243 .617/.624 115+3. The drive-ability and power band of the Vengeance's Stage II are impressive...I can only imagine the stage III.

Have you talked with Pat Guerra? He can recommend an off-the-shelf grind or spec out a custom grind for your setup and goals.

*mlee* · 02-21-2011, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesnoopster

You doing VVT or LS3 conversion ???

- bullit #3 in the OP... LS3 conversion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell040

I like your table. I am also shopping for cams. Did you pull this from a larger table or did you put this together yourself?

I would like to see the LS3 stock cam, GM hotcam, LS9, and most of the aftermarket cams in a single table. Anyone see a table like this floating around?

EDIT: answered my own question :http://www.gmhightechperformance.com.../photo_03.html

I started with the article you referenced... but these cams were not quite big enough... I don't mind some drivability issues... so started digging in to each one to see what the Stage II & III offerings were.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilo-9

The last one in your list from MTI looks like the same specs as Vengeance's Stage III which is 231/243 .617/.624 115+3. The drive-ability and power band of the Vengeance's Stage II are impressive...I can only imagine the stage III.

Have you talked with Pat Guerra? He can recommend an off-the-shelf grind or spec out a custom grind for your setup and goals.

The MTI's are my leading candidates right now... I'll def add that Vengeance Stage III to my list. Who is Pat Guerra?

Darth_Emma · 02-21-2011, 09:30 AM

Just an FYI... the second cam on your list (Livernois cam) has the same specs as the stage 2B blower cam that IPS will be putting in my car next week.

*mlee* · 02-21-2011, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Just an FYI... the second cam on your list (Livernois cam) has the same specs as the stage 2B blower cam that IPS will be putting in my car next week.

From what I've seen 230/240 is about the max duration for blower cams and a 114 LSA is on the low end. Nice Selection...

Ron@Vengeance · 02-21-2011, 10:44 AM

The last camshaft listed is our Stage III LS3 camshaft. I believe you would be 100% satisfied with this cam. It produces EXCELLENT power/still retains extremely good street manners and would work very well with the combination of parts you have listed.

If you have any other questions do not hesitate to give us a call. Our camshafts are currently on sale for $369.99

Ron

*mlee* · 02-21-2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance

The last camshaft listed is our Stage III LS3 camshaft. I believe you would be 100% satisfied with this cam. It produces EXCELLENT power/still retains extremely good street manners and would work very well with the combination of parts you have listed.

If you have any other questions do not hesitate to give us a call. Our camshafts are currently on sale for $369.99

Ron

Awesome you will be hearing from me. Thanks!!

ScottieBlkSS · 02-21-2011, 02:30 PM

Thats a great reference chart, I Will have to keep this in mind. Good luck with your selection

steeleshark2 · 02-21-2011, 02:35 PM

Is the Vengeance and MTI stage 3 the same??

danhr · 02-21-2011, 02:49 PM

I like the very last one from vengence the best.

decent split between the numbers.... and that wide(r) LSA is going to help with the nitrous and driveability, and the +3 is going to help getting the heavy car moving.

02-20-2011, 03:01 PM	#1
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,958 View My Garage	Need Help w/ Cam Selection Looking to purchase a Cam next week and thought I'd run it by the experts so I can make an educated proposal to my tuner. - This is for a Naturally Aspirated setup. - L99 w/ 3200 stall torque converter - will be installing LS7 lifters and deleting DOD and VVT - Scoggin Dickey CNC heads w/ Manley valves and 660 lift springs Here's some of the cams I have at the top of my list to give you and idea of my considerations. Thanks in advance for the input... Highlighted yellow is my selecton... ...and here's the finishedVIDEO . Attached Images __________________ Last edited by mlee; 03-15-2012 at 08:20 PM. Reason: Added Vengeance

02-20-2011, 09:45 PM	#4
thesnoopster Drives: '17 Fifty SS - '18 Traverse Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 3,616	You doing VVT or LS3 conversion ??? __________________ 2017 Camaro SS -"FIFTY" Mods: "93 Octane"

02-20-2011, 11:52 PM	#5
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: B'ham, Alabama Posts: 2,458 View My Garage	I like your table. I am also shopping for cams. Did you pull this from a larger table or did you put this together yourself? I would like to see the LS3 stock cam, GM hotcam, LS9, and most of the aftermarket cams in a single table. Anyone see a table like this floating around? EDIT: answered my own question :http://www.gmhightechperformance.com.../photo_03.html __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @114°, +4°), ARH LTs, VR OTR CAI, Cutouts, and lots of other fun mods. Last edited by Bell040; 02-21-2011 at 12:35 AM.

02-21-2011, 12:01 AM	#6
Kilo-9 Dog Is My Copilot Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,394	The last one in your list from MTI looks like the same specs as Vengeance's Stage III which is 231/243 .617/.624 115+3. The drive-ability and power band of the Vengeance's Stage II are impressive...I can only imagine the stage III. Have you talked with Pat Guerra? He can recommend an off-the-shelf grind or spec out a custom grind for your setup and goals. __________________

02-21-2011, 02:30 PM	#12
ScottieBlkSS Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bossier City, La Posts: 679	Thats a great reference chart, I Will have to keep this in mind. Good luck with your selection __________________

02-20-2011, 03:37 PM	#2
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	Is there any chance you'll ever add a blower?

02-21-2011, 09:30 AM	#8
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	Just an FYI... the second cam on your list (Livernois cam) has the same specs as the stage 2B blower cam that IPS will be putting in my car next week.

02-21-2011, 10:44 AM	#10
Ron@Vengeance Drives: 2013 Artic White GrandSport Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the shop Posts: 339	The last camshaft listed is our Stage III LS3 camshaft. I believe you would be 100% satisfied with this cam. It produces EXCELLENT power/still retains extremely good street manners and would work very well with the combination of parts you have listed. If you have any other questions do not hesitate to give us a call. Our camshafts are currently on sale for $369.99 Ron

02-21-2011, 02:35 PM	#13
steeleshark2 Drives: 2010 Transformer 1SS Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kingsland, Ga Posts: 2,553 View My Garage	Is the Vengeance and MTI stage 3 the same?? __________________ Build page:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...77#post3083477

02-21-2011, 02:49 PM	#14
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,024	I like the very last one from vengence the best. decent split between the numbers.... and that wide(r) LSA is going to help with the nitrous and driveability, and the +3 is going to help getting the heavy car moving. __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

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