Shno's House of Z

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by DarthNacho08

thats the big question though isn't it

Yup.

A question Number 3 can easily answer, but won't.

[djsnoflake]

For some reason, if it ain't a Volkswagen or a pick up truck, it doesn't come with a diesel in North America.

I don't get it either. Just think of all the TORQUE........... mmmmmmm..... torque.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Yup.

A question Number 3 can easily answer, but won't.

Sorry Fen

Originally Posted by djsnoflake

For some reason, if it ain't a Volkswagen or a pick up truck, it doesn't come with a diesel in North America.

I don't get it either. Just think of all the TORQUE........... mmmmmmm..... torque.

Yes, but you pay more for diesel here and you have to add urea now to meet US emissions, boooooooooooo.

By the way where is Shno? Seems with the problems in Egypt and Libya he has not been around much.

[FenwickHockey65]

With what gas prices are right now, I think the added fuel economy and torque-yness of a diesel would offset the extra cost.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

With what gas prices are right now, I think the added fuel economy and torque-yness of a diesel would offset the extra cost.

Not nearly. Gas would have to go up significantly more, and diesel would have to stay where it is....to make any sense economically. Or.....the EPA could get their heads out.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

With what gas prices are right now, I think the added fuel economy and torque-yness of a diesel would offset the extra cost.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Not nearly. Gas would have to go up significantly more, and diesel would have to stay where it is....to make any sense economically. Or.....the EPA could get their heads out.

In most European countries, diesel costs less than gas. I think here in Michigan for example, Diesel is an extra 10% over gasoline due to the tax structure. So a Cruze Eco or Focus XFE (or whatever they are calling it) with a diesel would have to pull 45, 46 mpg to be even. And that doesn't consider that a diesel engine option costs more to purchase, requires urea injection to meet modern U.S. emissions standards so over all it would have to do 50 plus mpg to come close to being cost effective.

[FenwickHockey65]

Sooooo...I really like the new Holden Series II Cruze.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Sooooo...I really like the new Holden Series II Cruze.

How are you going to fit all these GM dream cars into your garage? What are your three favorites world wide?

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Sooooo...I really like the new Holden Series II Cruze.

Seems eerily similar to the Cruze you can get here, Fen.

And answer the question............3 "current" favorites. I know that will likely change by Wednesday, but that's ok.

[FenwickHockey65]

That lower intake blackout is just awesome. Love it.

And I only get to pick three? :(

2011 Holden WM Series II Caprice V, 2nd gen Buick LaCrosse, 2012 Camaro ZL1.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

That lower intake blackout is just awesome. Love it.

And I only get to pick three? :(

2011 Holden WM Series II Caprice V, 2nd gen Buick LaCrosse, 2012 Camaro ZL1.

Nice list. The CTS-V didn't make the cut?

[FenwickHockey65]

See, that's why I can't only pick 3.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

See, that's why I can't only pick 3.

That speaks volumes about the GM range.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

That speaks volumes about the GM range.

I don't think he could even pick three Buicks.