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rez333 · 03-14-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJedi

Actually the way that Motor Trend and Car & Driver have always loved the BMW, I was surprised that they said the Boss was the better car. The ZL1 will have it's work cut out for them, but I think that it will be a lot closer than a lot of people think.

So maybe.. and I'm just taking a stab in the dark here and using my brain a little instead of my heart.. maybe MotorTrend weren't biased to begin with?

YA THINK??

Imagine for a second, you go over to a Mustang forum and read a whole bunch of cry babies saying that Magazine ABC is biased toward Camaro - wah wah wah. It's embarrassing.

SirPhobos1 · 03-14-2011, 04:34 PM

This is coming from the magazine that named the Volt the car of the year before it really even saw a shred of mass production.

I'll take it with a grain of salt.

LS3SuperSport · 03-14-2011, 04:39 PM

The new BOSS 302 looks like something my cat threw up..

midgard · 03-14-2011, 04:46 PM

Is this the same Motortrend that thought the 5.0 was going to destroy the Camaro in sales?

SSLarry · 03-14-2011, 04:53 PM

Leguna Seca is MT's test track (being in California and all), but with all the straightaways on that thing, it will be close especially with 600hp, and GM's finest brakes.

It should be so close, no magazines should be making predictions, but the ZL1 will be $10-$15,000 more so I expect nothing less, even an un-fair apples-to-oranges comparison.

Ford does have a supercharged version of their 5.0 fully tested and ready for production. Now that would be a scary BOSS.

garagelogic · 03-14-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SSLarry

Seems they are blind by love.

Now that's some funny stuff right there.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-14-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SSLarry

In think they are in for a surprise when the ZL1 shows up.

First Test: 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302

"Ford's goal for the Boss was to beat a certain Bavarian around Laguna, but that was easy. We proved the regular GT was just a tick off the pace of the M3 in our October 2010 cover story. What Ford has done is much more; this is hands-down the best Mustang it has ever produced, and we tip our hats for not wimping out with merely a sticker-and-wing package. So who's next on the challenge list? Good question. While the new Camaro ZL1 has improved suspension and a lot more power, we don't think it stands a chance against this Boss on a racetrack. But we look forward to finding out."

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

I read this back when the article first came out...I just shook my head. They like to run their mouths...and I've got to say when it comes to inconsistency -- MotorTrend's got the trick down perfectly. So I find it difficult to take their "reviews" seriously.

I say let them test it before using their "reputation" to put some weight behind an uneducated guess. It's very unprofessional to say something like this so far ahead of time...and would seem to shine a bright light on this particular writer's very obvious bias.

2cnd chance · 03-14-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lexlueger

The more viable comparison would be SSX or Z/28 vs boss 302. Then they can talk sh!t. Track car vs track car.

ZL1 vs GT500

Z/28 vs boss

Anything less would uncivilized

And to all asking this is why I/we need a Z28!!!

CAMARO-ECSTASY · 03-14-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

And to all asking this is why I/we need a Z28!!!

TOBY J · 03-14-2011, 07:00 PM

What's the fascination with a tenth of a second or even half a second.
Both cars will go around the track faster than a 2 door Bentley but I'd still
prefer to be driving the Bentley.

"It's not always how fast you go ....... it's how you look going fast"

SSLarry · 03-14-2011, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOBY J

What's the fascination with a tenth of a second or even half a second.
Both cars will go around the track faster than a 2 door Bentley but I'd still
prefer to be driving the Bentley.

"It's not always how fast you go ....... it's how you look going fast"

A lot on here would desire just the opposite. To each his own.

(Then again, you could sell the Bentley and buy 2 ZL1s and 2 BOSS's)

clg_98ta · 03-14-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

I don;t think the ZL1 is suppose to compete with the BOSS.

Exactly... the ZL1 is aiming at the GT500

If and when a Z28 reappears, it will probably go head to head with the new Boss

2010SLVRBULIT · 03-14-2011, 07:26 PM

..yeah, wait until the z28 comes out!

91Z28350 · 03-14-2011, 07:41 PM

Actually, I want a ZL-1. I admit it, I want a stupid fast GT with excellent handling, NOT a track car. I like leather, I like uber sound systems. ZL-1 works just fine for me. if money were no object, I would own a DBS (AND a ZL1).

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