Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by thePill

Anyone who doesn't remember why the Camaro was discontinued was either too young or just ignoring what happened...

I'll be 42 in August....what I recall most about end of the road in 02 was the Camaro outperformed the Mustang in all areas except the biggest one...price. Loaded F Bodies were far more expensive than the Mustang.

GM killed the platform to persue the high demand for the SUV...not the smartest choice they could have made to say the least.

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

Very close....although god's hand has touched the mighty 5.0, making it a 11 second showroom brawler.

Oh you not going to bring in the..
Its a 10sec car. It ran a 10 with just a few bolt-ons
(and all the ford guys leave out that one of the bolt-ons was a 150 shot)

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

I'll be 42 in August....what I recall most about end of the road in 02 was the Camaro outperformed the Mustang in all areas except the biggest one...price. Loaded F Bodies were far more expensive than the Mustang.

GM killed the platform to persue the high demand for the SUV...not the smartest choice they could have made to say the least.

I was in Afghanistan I missed all this
though dont get mad.. I didnt like those year camaros too much but the Trans Am WS6 was so sexy..

[thePill]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

I'll be 42 in August....what I recall most about end of the road in 02 was the Camaro outperformed the Mustang in all areas except the biggest one...price. Loaded F Bodies were far more expensive than the Mustang.

GM killed the platform to persue the high demand for the SUV...not the smartest choice they could have made to say the least.

Well, in GM's defense, the SUV at the time made up over 60% of all vehicle sales. GM almost didn't have a choice, but, I think if the internet was more widely used there would have been a louder outcry.

As for performance, the base GT did not really stand a chance against the Camaro/Firebird's SLP cars. It was the Cobra that change everything and outperformed the two. The base GT did however make up a majority of the sales which carried the aftermarket to almost $32 billion dollars a year for Ford and it's aftermarket clan.

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by thePill

Well, in GM's defense, the SUV at the time made up over 60% of all vehicle sales. GM almost didn't have a choice, but, I think if the internet was more widely used there would have been a louder outcry.

As for performance, the base GT did not really stand a chance against the Camaro/Firebird's SLP cars. It was the Cobra that change everything and outperformed the two. The base GT did however make up a majority of the sales which carried the aftermarket to almost $32 billion dollars a year for Ford and it's aftermarket clan.

Ford smart too they offer real ford performance pieces.. not just a axle back to make car louder.. like the whipple supercharger..
For alot of people like me if a car a lil slower it is no big deal.. I can make a car faster.. as long as engine is stout.. (which 4.6 lack.. ford got smart with 5.0 though)

[javierrflores]

Originally Posted by thePill

SVT did codename the 03-04 Cobra's the "Terminator" but I don't think that the nameplates were used. It was SVT's crowning achievement at the time and now that the Mustang outsold the Camaro/Firebird, outperformed them and ultimately drove the competition out of business, the “Terminator” was a fitting name.. the name stuck among enthusiast...

Edit: Also, the number built is incorrect on the tag pictured above. The tag says #590 of 5082, there were 13,476 Cobra's built in 2003 and 5,664 built in 2004.

There was 5082 convertibles built.

[thePill]

Originally Posted by javierrflores

There was 5082 convertibles built.

Ah, thanks man.. good catch...

[javierrflores]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

Dude...how many painkillers are you taking?!?!?

Do you actually believe that nonsense?

here ya go.

[thePill]

Originally Posted by GQ4Life

Oh you not going to bring in the..
Its a 10sec car. It ran a 10 with just a few bolt-ons
(and all the ford guys leave out that one of the bolt-ons was a 150 shot)

Woodbine Motorsports has the bolt-on record in the 5.0 right now with a 11.12@122. They were shifting at 7700rpms... The Boss intake makes power up there...

[thePill]

Originally Posted by javierrflores

here ya go.

Cool video man, thanks for sharing that. C&D says the 2003 Cobra did the quarter in 12 seconds at 111mph but it was more like a 12.7, pretty much what the 5.0's run now. If you think about it, the 2003-04 Cobra's were almost identical in almost every aspect of performance and physical dimensions. They produced similar power, were almost equal in performance with the new GT's having an advantage in handling and a hair faster and both vehicles weighed almost the same/cost the same.

Again, cool video man...

[Bad70supreme]

All this mustang talk is getting old.

[javierrflores]

Originally Posted by thePill

Cool video man, thanks for sharing that. C&D says the 2003 Cobra did the quarter in 12 seconds at 111mph but it was more like a 12.7, pretty much what the 5.0's run now. If you think about it, the 2003-04 Cobra's were almost identical in almost every aspect of performance and physical dimensions. They produced similar power, were almost equal in performance with the new GT's having an advantage in handling and a hair faster and both vehicles weighed almost the same/cost the same.

Again, cool video man...

no problem bro.

[newmoon]

Bring back the Terminator, the last real mustang . I don't care if the 11 GT500 is faster, nothing put fear into a street racer more than the 03/04 Cobras. The car did one thing great, and many things good.

[thePill]

Ford will put up the numbers as soon as they sell the 2012 GT500's, it would also depend on the ZL1's public info too. The ZL1 should be almost finished and the GT500's will be at 90% by July...