VVT Cam .......... or ......... LS3 Conversion

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Imagine the jokes when you do the LS3 conversiona and beat Chris.

"You had to get an LS3 to beat me"

Either way, it won't be done by the fest. So it won't matter, but there will be future challenges.

Originally Posted by zebra

just consider that 1 7/8 are recommended for my 5.7 LS1 when supercharging. also remember that you've got another 30 cubes of air to move

True. True. True.

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

No reason to hide! If this was offered from the factory, I'd have bought that!

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

PQ....quit post whoring and call Greg - if you listened to the guy you'd already have a 10 second car.

I woulnd't have had the money. lol

The:

Fast, Reliable, Cheap / Pick 2

rule applies.........

[Brianskeet]

No matter which way you end up I know I am learning a lot.

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

If you convert to LS3 your are no longer our team captain. Just remember that.

[thesnoopster]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

If you convert to LS3 your are no longer our team captain. Just remember that.

Good one!!!

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

If you convert to LS3 your are no longer our team captain. Just remember that.

Originally Posted by thesnoopster

Good one!!!

He's still good... the term LS3 vs. L99 is simply M6 vs. A6... otherwise the LSX crowd is out...

[Jason 98 TA]

You guys might wanna checkout the thread where RPM installed a VVT-3 Texas Speed camshaft & gained right at 80 rear wheel horsepower.

Here's something for you to kick around the 231/236 LS3 camshaft gains right at 80hp when installed in a LS3 engine while the VVT-3 gains 100hp when installed into a L99 engine.

[Darth_Emma]

Originally Posted by mlee

He's still good... the term LS3 vs. L99 is simply M6 vs. A6... otherwise the LSX crowd is out...

What he said.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

You guys might wanna checkout the thread where RPM installed a VVT-3 Texas Speed camshaft & gained right at 80 rear wheel horsepower.

Here's something for you to kick around the 231/236 LS3 camshaft gains right at 80hp when installed in a LS3 engine while the VVT-3 gains 100hp when installed into a L99 engine.

But when RPM installs it... it only gains 80...

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

If you convert to LS3 your are no longer our team captain. Just remember that.

Mutiny is punishable by ban.............

Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

You guys might wanna checkout the thread where RPM installed a VVT-3 Texas Speed camshaft & gained right at 80 rear wheel horsepower.

Here's something for you to kick around the 231/236 LS3 camshaft gains right at 80hp when installed in a LS3 engine while the VVT-3 gains 100hp when installed into a L99 engine.

But how bout with a blower also?

Originally Posted by mlee

But when RPM installs it... it only gains 80...

I thought the same thing. lol

[Clint@A.I.R.]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

PQ,

Just a couple of things.

A VVT cam requires a skilled tuner to make it fly....given that the fact you couldn't find a local guy good enough to tune just your blower, this could be a big factor in your final choice.

VVT cams are going to run on the smaller side due to the lifters, so you're going to take a hit on power. However, the smaller cam would ding you less on the boost hit.

LS3 conversion costs more, but has less headaches and is simplier to work with/tune.

Also....match your cam choice to your stall..HAVE A PLAN! This is very important in the big picture. Smaller VVT cams could very well fly without a stall, larger cams will without question require a stall to be driveable. Don't do one without the other.

Last, but for sure not least ( and this one will sound crazy, but hear me out ) You're sitting at 470 RWHP right now and can't put it down, but yet you're chasing even more HP. Here's what I suggest....work on your suspension set up including a nice sticky tire. If you can put down what you're using, you just may find that you already have all the power you need.

I'm only throwing that last bit of advice out there, because that's exactly what I'm doing right now. I'm sitting at 470 RWHP and wanted to slap a blower on top....but after I thought more about it, adding more power would just compound the launching problems I already have. I went out and bought bushings/trailing arms, etc and as soon as I can I'm getting set of drag radials then heading back out to the strip.

Just some things to think about as you make your next move brother!

Good Post Hugger !

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Best of both worlds... LS3 AND an automatic tranny!

actually... this would have been bad ass if GM could have done this from the start.

Originally Posted by PQ

I woulnd't have had the money. lol

The:

Fast, Reliable, Cheap / Pick 2

rule applies.........

you gotta remember tho, those 3 can work together.

if all you want is to go balls out fast for cheap, then reliablity is out the window, but, if you want to go reasonably fast for reasonably cheap, then reliability is still in play. think of a pie chart with 33.333333% devoted to each of those from the factory. everytime you increase one, you decrease from the other two (or increase two at the expense of one). and I told you a long time ago that you shoulda just sprayed the car and been done with it.

even with the big wheels. roll out of the hole and drop the hammer... chris wouldnt stand a chance.

I'll be back in this thread tomorrow to touch up on this as I havent read the whole thread yet.

Originally Posted by Clint@A.I.R.

Good Post Hugger !

[PQ]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

actually... this would have been bad ass if GM could have done this from the start.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

...and I told you a long time ago that you shoulda just sprayed the car and been done with it.

even with the big wheels. roll out of the hole and drop the hammer... chris wouldnt stand a chance...

nitrous is for pu...ansies!






unless it's for cooling the IATs

Originally Posted by PQ

but then we wouldn't have all this entertainment going on, would we?

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by Clint@A.I.R.

Good Post Hugger !

Thanks much!

PQ, you got that LS3 yet?