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1FAST SS · 04-09-2011, 09:03 PM

I am planning to buy headers this week and was wanting to hear from someone that has them installed. I have heard the JBA headers have plug wire issues? Anyone experienced any issues with the JBA's?

1FAST SS · 04-09-2011, 09:39 PM

I love LT's, but the tune issue is what I am trying to avoid. Hence Shortys for me.

csjcsj · 04-09-2011, 10:00 PM

Really the shorties arent going to give you any HP increase, if thats what you are looking for! Probably make it a bit louder!?!? And dress the engine compartment look better!

Go check out Ivan@SouthwestSpeed on here and ask him!!! I am sure he might be able to help you out!

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 04-10-2011, 12:38 AM

If you have to have Short Tube headers, then shop some HF Cats to go along with em.

I can tell you that they are great looking and will def improve the appearance under the hood, but as far as performance goes, they won't give you the perverbial bang for the buck that LTs will.

Adding a nice set of HF Cats to them changes that game completely however.

Best luck and don't hesitate to PM us if you have any other questions!
Ivan

bob vogel · 04-10-2011, 12:44 AM

save your money . just go with the hi flow cat's . you will be very happy and you can use the money for something else.

SlingShot · 04-10-2011, 10:03 AM

I chose Doug Thorley for looks and finish over any other brand. Also anything you can do to help your engine breath better will help performance. If you do car shows do the shorty's first, then go back and do the high flow cats as you get the money. I did the shorty's with FlowMasters AT and the sound is awesome ...

JANNETTYRACING · 04-10-2011, 10:28 AM

The fact remains Why buy something that does nothing, and shorty Headers Do Nothing.

The whole reason for purchasing Performance parts is to get Performance.

The only way to get Performance out of Headers is to buy REAL headers, LONG TUBE HEADERS.

Sorry to be so Honest.

Ted.

ssmike · 04-10-2011, 04:06 PM

Ted is right! The only other reason to buy shorties is for looks alone! I can understand wanting to get shorties for warrany and emissions reasons but DON'T expect any performance bump from them! Speaking from experience, I wish I would have listened to guys like Ted last year when I got mine! The stock manifold, I have heard, actually flows quite well. Best thing to do if you don't want to tune is just do high flow cats. Best bang for the buck! Keep the stock manifolds and cat back!

So in answer to the OP's question, I'm obviously in favor of the Doug Thorlies!

HumanWiki · 04-11-2011, 12:27 PM

I have Doug Thorley LTs w/ Magnaflow HF cats 2.5" -- I like them and they're different.

Stay Marine · 04-11-2011, 01:04 PM

yeah...the stock manifolds flow well (compared to former manifolds); and yeah, anyone expecting more than 8-10 from shorties is stoned; but with all that said, I went short (JBA) to maintain emissions and improve the flow into the HF cats I already had (SOLO). So I can still pass the annual tests, and only gained 9RWHP and 14RTWG (conveniently managed before and after tunes) from the shorties alone.
To your original question, no issues at all with the JBA and plug wires. I think the DTs may look a little sharper than the JBAs, but I got a really good deal for the SS's. If you were to just go shorties and maintain your stock headers, I'd be amazed if you even saw 5 hp to the tires. Good luck.

E.T. · 04-18-2011, 06:08 PM

For those that say shorties will do nothing, read this thread:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79379

Shortys on the V8 showed significant gains as well:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47014

rontammy0 · 11-09-2013, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivan @ Southwest Speed

If you have to have Short Tube headers, then shop some HF Cats to go along with em.

I can tell you that they are great looking and will def improve the appearance under the hood, but as far as performance goes, they won't give you the perverbial bang for the buck that LTs will.

Adding a nice set of HF Cats to them changes that game completely however.

Best luck and don't hesitate to PM us if you have any other questions!
Ivan

Hey Ivan I just put jba shortys on this week..I already have solo hiflow cats..what power gains from this set up...thanks

MrWray · 11-09-2013, 02:39 AM

Im not sure about Doug Thorley shorties but I have the 1 3/4" Tri Y longtubes with mid pipes and love them. Im sure that their shorty headers are great too

SS PANTHER · 11-09-2013, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob vogel

save your money . just go with the hi flow cat's . you will be very happy and you can use the money for something else.

04-09-2011, 09:03 PM	#1
1FAST SS Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 769	JBA or Doug Thorley Shorty Headers I am planning to buy headers this week and was wanting to hear from someone that has them installed. I have heard the JBA headers have plug wire issues? Anyone experienced any issues with the JBA's? __________________ 2011 Camaro SS Synergy Green CAI Cold Air Induction, ADM Race Scoop, Apex Washer Bottle Kit, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, DOD/VVT delete and LS3 conversion, American Racing LT Headers, American Racing Headers Off Road pipes, Borla S-Type Catback, FTI Billet Triple Disk 3600 rpm Torque Converter, DSS Aluminium Drive Shaft, AAC Plasma DRL's, Showstopper LED Sidemarkers,Carbon FIber Bow Ties, 35% Window Tint, Llyod's Floor Mats, JBL MS-8 Sound Processor, 2 Alpine PDX-1.600, Alpine PDX-4.100, JL Audio C5-650, JL Audio C5-650x, Alpine T10 Type R Shallow Mount, Stinger Dry Cell Battery

04-09-2011, 09:39 PM	#2
1FAST SS Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 769	I love LT's, but the tune issue is what I am trying to avoid. Hence Shortys for me. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS Synergy Green CAI Cold Air Induction, ADM Race Scoop, Apex Washer Bottle Kit, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, DOD/VVT delete and LS3 conversion, American Racing LT Headers, American Racing Headers Off Road pipes, Borla S-Type Catback, FTI Billet Triple Disk 3600 rpm Torque Converter, DSS Aluminium Drive Shaft, AAC Plasma DRL's, Showstopper LED Sidemarkers,Carbon FIber Bow Ties, 35% Window Tint, Llyod's Floor Mats, JBL MS-8 Sound Processor, 2 Alpine PDX-1.600, Alpine PDX-4.100, JL Audio C5-650, JL Audio C5-650x, Alpine T10 Type R Shallow Mount, Stinger Dry Cell Battery

04-09-2011, 10:00 PM	#3
csjcsj Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS 6spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Jefferson, Ga Posts: 4,399 View My Garage	Really the shorties arent going to give you any HP increase, if thats what you are looking for! Probably make it a bit louder!?!? And dress the engine compartment look better! Go check out Ivan@SouthwestSpeed on here and ask him!!! I am sure he might be able to help you out! __________________

04-10-2011, 10:03 AM	#6
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	I chose Doug Thorley for looks and finish over any other brand. Also anything you can do to help your engine breath better will help performance. If you do car shows do the shorty's first, then go back and do the high flow cats as you get the money. I did the shorty's with FlowMasters AT and the sound is awesome ... __________________

04-10-2011, 10:28 AM	#7
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,416	The fact remains Why buy something that does nothing, and shorty Headers Do Nothing. The whole reason for purchasing Performance parts is to get Performance. The only way to get Performance out of Headers is to buy REAL headers, LONG TUBE HEADERS. Sorry to be so Honest. Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 39 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

04-10-2011, 12:38 AM	#4
Ivan @ Southwest Speed Drives: '15 Z06, '01 NBM SS, '97 SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 12,161	If you have to have Short Tube headers, then shop some HF Cats to go along with em. I can tell you that they are great looking and will def improve the appearance under the hood, but as far as performance goes, they won't give you the perverbial bang for the buck that LTs will. Adding a nice set of HF Cats to them changes that game completely however. Best luck and don't hesitate to PM us if you have any other questions! Ivan

04-10-2011, 12:44 AM	#5
bob vogel Drives: 2010 rs ss Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: calif Posts: 796	save your money . just go with the hi flow cat's . you will be very happy and you can use the money for something else.

04-10-2011, 04:06 PM	#8
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,841	Ted is right! The only other reason to buy shorties is for looks alone! I can understand wanting to get shorties for warrany and emissions reasons but DON'T expect any performance bump from them! Speaking from experience, I wish I would have listened to guys like Ted last year when I got mine! The stock manifold, I have heard, actually flows quite well. Best thing to do if you don't want to tune is just do high flow cats. Best bang for the buck! Keep the stock manifolds and cat back! So in answer to the OP's question, I'm obviously in favor of the Doug Thorlies!

04-11-2011, 12:27 PM	#9
HumanWiki Drives: Car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Place Posts: 3,361	I have Doug Thorley LTs w/ Magnaflow HF cats 2.5" -- I like them and they're different.

04-11-2011, 01:04 PM	#10
Stay Marine Still love daily drivin' Drives: Built '10 IBM 2SS; '15 Black Z/28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 759 View My Garage	yeah...the stock manifolds flow well (compared to former manifolds); and yeah, anyone expecting more than 8-10 from shorties is stoned; but with all that said, I went short (JBA) to maintain emissions and improve the flow into the HF cats I already had (SOLO). So I can still pass the annual tests, and only gained 9RWHP and 14RTWG (conveniently managed before and after tunes) from the shorties alone. To your original question, no issues at all with the JBA and plug wires. I think the DTs may look a little sharper than the JBAs, but I got a really good deal for the SS's. If you were to just go shorties and maintain your stock headers, I'd be amazed if you even saw 5 hp to the tires. Good luck. __________________

04-18-2011, 06:08 PM	#11
E.T. Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 3,273	For those that say shorties will do nothing, read this thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79379 Shortys on the V8 showed significant gains as well: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47014 __________________

11-09-2013, 02:39 AM	#13
MrWray SYBIL Drives: 2013 2SS/RS, silver ice metallic Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,444	Im not sure about Doug Thorley shorties but I have the 1 3/4" Tri Y longtubes with mid pipes and love them. Im sure that their shorty headers are great too __________________

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