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Old 04-06-2011, 07:52 AM   #589
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V6 Camaro gets the shaft from another company while the Mustang goes up on the pedestal.

And WTF is this "The result is a 12.56 quarter-mile time this weekend on drag radials, which was enough to spank the Camaro in the other lane and bring it inline with the V8 Mustang GT"..........was the writer smoking crack. Because what I saw in that video looked like the Camaro was out front all the way.

Oh well. Back to dreaming again.
Go back and watch the video.. .The Camaro RED-LIGHTED! I can definitely see he turned on the RED bulb... looks like this RT was -.23x vs the Mustang's .115 RT. So THAT is why the Camaro was out front!

Trust me... I KNOW Procharger wants to do a kit for the V6 Camaro... it basically going to be the same hurdles Lingenfelter ran into...

Basically I think it boils down to paths of least resistance... Hmmmm... I can :bangdesk: trying to figure out the V6 Camaro... or I can more easily crank out a V6 Mustang kit...
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I cannot wait to spank that car or even a GT at the track with my V6....... Bring the boost and come play........
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Go back and watch the video.. .The Camaro RED-LIGHTED! I can definitely see he turned on the RED bulb... looks like this RT was -.23x vs the Mustang's .115 RT. So THAT is why the Camaro was out front!

Trust me... I KNOW Procharger wants to do a kit for the V6 Camaro... it basically going to be the same hurdles Lingenfelter ran into...

Basically I think it boils down to paths of least resistance... Hmmmm... I can :bangdesk: trying to figure out the V6 Camaro... or I can more easily crank out a V6 Mustang kit...
Im asking this in all seriousness, not being a smart-ass...what the heck is the difference between the v6 camaro and v6 stang motors??? They both are quad cam and both have direct inject, correct? I'm really pissed that this was that easy to pull off on the new mustang motor. Meanwhile the Camaro seems to hate boost...I really want to figure out this problem bc thats a strong argument to get a mustang...
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Dont get too excited for that SC Mustang Ive heard that motor will not last very long on boost...
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:19 AM   #593
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Dont get too excited for that SC Mustang Ive heard that motor will not last very long on boost...
How come you say that? I don't know anything about the mustang v6 except the whole eco boost thing.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:21 AM   #594
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Im asking this in all seriousness, not being a smart-ass...what the heck is the difference between the v6 camaro and v6 stang motors??? They both are quad cam and both have direct inject, correct? I'm really pissed that this was that easy to pull off on the new mustang motor. Meanwhile the Camaro seems to hate boost...I really want to figure out this problem bc thats a strong argument to get a mustang...
The Mustang does not have direct injection...

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...nd-v-8-engines

The main thing is the V6 Camaro's Bosch ECU (computer). The thing is GM actually outsourced the calibration to Bosch... so in some cases GM and Ford will actually help out aftermarket companies out with their development of products... but in the case of the V6 Camaro, GM kind of has it's hands tied with Bosch... and apparently some of the GM HF V6 engineers are left scratching their heads when it comes to the ECU... So that is what really makes the V6 Camaro different from the Mustang...
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How come you say that? I don't know anything about the mustang v6 except the whole eco boost thing.
No eco boost in the mustang... The 2011 V6 Mustang uses the 3.7 Duratec motor...
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No eco boost in the mustang... The 2011 V6 Mustang uses the 3.7 Duratec motor...
Ah ok.......now I know nothing about that motor.......LOL. But I do know that their ECM is tunable.....lol
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The Mustang does not have direct injection...

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...nd-v-8-engines

The main thing is the V6 Camaro's Bosch ECU (computer). The thing is GM actually outsourced the calibration to Bosch... so in some cases GM and Ford will actually help out aftermarket companies out with their development of products... but in the case of the V6 Camaro, GM kind of has it's hands tied with Bosch... and apparently some of the GM HF V6 engineers are left scratching their heads when it comes to the ECU... So that is what really makes the V6 Camaro different from the Mustang...
Thank you for answering my question. I shamefully assumed the Mustang motor was DI and did not check facts beforehand.

Hmm, scrming, do you think we could use a stand-alone ecu such as AEM's? Bc I imagine a piggy-back Ecu, such as ones Greddy makes, wouldnt play nice with Bosch.

I'm not entirely familiar with stand-alone units...I'm sorta hoping someone could provide some insight.

I think everyone has to agree that what we all are most annoyed about is that our Camaro motor seems apt to handling more power...we all know its there; its just a shame we can't get it out. I wonder whats new with Gretchen...
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Thank you for answering my question. I shamefully assumed the Mustang motor was DI and did not check facts beforehand.

Hmm, scrming, do you think we could use a stand-alone ecu such as AEM's? Bc I imagine a piggy-back Ecu, such as ones Greddy makes, wouldnt play nice with Bosch.

I'm not entirely familiar with stand-alone units...I'm sorta hoping someone could provide some insight.

I think everyone has to agree that what we all are most annoyed about is that our Camaro motor seems apt to handling more power...we all know its there; its just a shame we can't get it out. I wonder whats new with Gretchen...
If you follow the FI section. D3 has been using a SC setup on the 3.6l engine since 2008 using a stand alone ecm. Problem is that it can get very expensive, because if you get their SC w/o the standalone, cost is only $5700 with standalone, the cost goes up to almost $8000.

D3 has been using stand alones because they didn't realize Trifecta had figured out a way to work with the Bosch ECM.

Good news is that multiple turbo setups are using the Trifecta tune so we don't need a stand alone anymore. I am hoping that I can get something going between D3 and Trifecta as well.
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Some owners of the cars themselves. Youll have to do some digging if you arent willing to take my word for it. Check some Stang forums etc.

ON TOPIC

Hitting up the track next weekend and Im mad excited!
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Some owners of the cars themselves. Youll have to do some digging if you arent willing to take my word for it. Check some Stang forums etc.

ON TOPIC

Hitting up the track next weekend and Im mad excited!
I still have a LOT of Mustang friends... And still belong to a few.. I have one friend that is currently building a twin turbo setup for her new 3.7... And I have never heard anything that would suggest the 3.7 isn't going to hold up...

There was was a company that did the same thing when the 4.0 Mustang came out in 2005... It will never handle boost... blah, blah, blah... yet there are are plenty of boosted 4.0s out there! I ran 12 PSI on my 4.0 without any issue at all... I know a lot of turbo and supercharged 4.0s personally... oh, and the company that claimed the 4.0 wouldn't hold up... turns out they were selling 4.0 parts... LOL!

I don't doubt you've heard the same thing about the 3.7... I just think it probably a lot of the same "The Sky Is Falling!" hype we had when the 4.0s first went in the Mustang... I think it's important to understand WHO thinks the 3.7 won't hold up...
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I still have a LOT of Mustang friends... And still belong to a few.. I have one friend that is currently building a twin turbo setup for her new 3.7... And I have never heard anything that would suggest the 3.7 isn't going to hold up...

There was was a company that did the same thing when the 4.0 Mustang came out in 2005... It will never handle boost... blah, blah, blah... yet there are are plenty of boosted 4.0s out there! I ran 12 PSI on my 4.0 without any issue at all... I know a lot of turbo and supercharged 4.0s personally... oh, and the company that claimed the 4.0 wouldn't hold up... turns out they were selling 4.0 parts... LOL!

I don't doubt you've heard the same thing about the 3.7... I just think it probably a lot of the same "The Sky Is Falling!" hype we had when the 4.0s first went in the Mustang... I think it's important to understand WHO thinks the 3.7 won't hold up...
Ill take your word for it, just something I heard and I dont know anything about what set up the V6 stang runs lol.

Im more concerned about our LLTs on boost anyway =/
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