MarylandSpeed DYNO TESTED: Diablosport Predator Canned Tune on 2010 SS A6 - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

MarylandSpeed · 09-27-2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopss

I would bite just don't want to risk my warrenty

I really think people blow the whole warranty thing up. I have NEVER in 4 years of selling these seen someone post on a forum they had warranty work denied because of a Predator. Is it a possibility? Sure...but it is pretty remote. I mean..it may sound perverse, but you likely have a much higher chance of someone running into and totaling your car while it is parked in a parking lot then you do having a warranty claim denied because of a canned tune.

If you mod while in warranty, there is a chance they will fix it. If you wait till after, there is no chance.

victoryred1ss · 09-27-2010, 03:12 PM

Good info, keep up the good work

caverman · 09-27-2010, 04:32 PM

Well.....here is a thread to watch. I don't know which tune he has but let's see how the dealership handles this one.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107869

1camaro70 · 09-27-2010, 08:39 PM

a year ago a dyno tune on a L99 A6, running on low octane table, got +27 HP and +47 ft.lb. torque,
shouldn't a canned tune get better than 15 HP?

caverman · 09-27-2010, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1camaro70

a year ago a dyno tune on a L99 A6, running on low octane table, got +27 HP and +47 ft.lb. torque,
shouldn't a canned tune get better than 15 HP?

I would think that running on the low octane table it was really being robbed of HP. I remember reading about the A6 running in the low octane tables before they figured out about doing the Fuse Pull. The cars were supposedly so slow they were getting beat by Hondas.

So....assuming his car was running on the High Octane table like it should've been the 10 rwhp is probably correct and from what I've read is typical from just a tune.

1camaro70 · 09-28-2010, 08:37 AM

low octane table costs about 20 HP and 25 ft. lb. torque, still felt slow prior to fuse pull, after fuse pull, the power was finally there, and of course I added the tune model Vararam without any tweeks to the tune, now, which of course no one believes I can get a chirp 1-2 AND 3-4 with traction control ON.
Again for the typical thread reader, I have not been back to the Dyno, Vararam keeps saying that any day they will have a revised unit ready to correct problems, mine only has slight stumble at idle.
If Vararam revises their unit, or I can it and buy another manufacturer, I will go back to the dyno and get proof, otherwise who knows.
Dynos for typical L99 are 325/ 325, mine on low octane table were 300/305, the tune gained 27/47, then the fuse pull put back the 25/20 so was I at 352/ 367 before the Vararam? Maybe the answer will have to wait until after another dyno run, but I am just trying to put out the information, not argue with anyone. The fuse pull kept me from dumping the underperforming camaro, reminded me of my 1990 Impala SS, SLOW.
So the minimum you can take away from this is if you want the truth, 27HP / 47 torque was not felt by me, the fuse pull really was felt and woke up the engine.

MarylandSpeed · 09-28-2010, 11:35 PM

I would think that result in an extreme outlier on the high side. Most people don't get that with dyno tunes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1camaro70

a year ago a dyno tune on a L99 A6, running on low octane table, got +27 HP and +47 ft.lb. torque,
shouldn't a canned tune get better than 15 HP?

MarylandSpeed · 01-17-2011, 05:06 AM

I have been having some people ask about these, so I wanted to bump it!

Viral · 04-11-2011, 04:45 PM

Have you guys had a chance to do a similar before/after dyno for the LS3 using a Predator? Are the results similar?

Bell040 · 04-11-2011, 08:19 PM

Any new dyno comparisons? ... Other than the predator?

Tie Rod · 04-12-2011, 07:54 AM

I would like to see a test side by side with a SCT and a Jannetty canned tune on your dyno. Then we can compair all three for ourselves.

Dave Da · 04-13-2011, 05:31 PM

Branden,
Thank you for posting this as you know I just bought a preaditor from you and just tuned my car last week, it made a big differance in the performance, you can really notice it. I am putting the Kooks long tube headers and high flow cats on the car on thursday. You can store the stock tune and up to five extra tunes on the preaditor and Diablosports said to return you car to the stock tune if you have to take it into the dealer for service. I will take it to get tuned on a dyno next week and I will post the results. If anyone needs to get parts for their car Maryland speed Rocks, good advice and prices!!
Thanks Dave D.

Baltimorejohn1 · 05-18-2013, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tie Rod

I would like to see a test side by side with a SCT and a Jannetty canned tune on your dyno. Then we can compair all three for ourselves.

Me to I would like to see that......
I found this thread very informative and objective plus constructive.....

11TexaSS · 05-18-2013, 11:01 PM

Thanks for the info! You guys are great and always look to you first when I mod.

09-27-2010, 03:12 PM	#16
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09-27-2010, 04:32 PM	#17
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	Well.....here is a thread to watch. I don't know which tune he has but let's see how the dealership handles this one. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107869 __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

04-11-2011, 04:45 PM	#23
Viral Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 751 View My Garage	Have you guys had a chance to do a similar before/after dyno for the LS3 using a Predator? Are the results similar? __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS ( Corsa Catback Exhaust \| Vararam \| VMAX TB \| Custom Tune - 386HP/383TQ)

04-11-2011, 08:19 PM	#24
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: B'ham, Alabama Posts: 2,458 View My Garage	Any new dyno comparisons? ... Other than the predator? __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @114°, +4°), ARH LTs, VR OTR CAI, Cutouts, and lots of other fun mods.

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09-27-2010, 08:39 PM	#18
1camaro70 Drives: 2010 2SS RS L99 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: BUTLER, PA Posts: 531	a year ago a dyno tune on a L99 A6, running on low octane table, got +27 HP and +47 ft.lb. torque, shouldn't a canned tune get better than 15 HP?

09-28-2010, 08:37 AM	#20
1camaro70 Drives: 2010 2SS RS L99 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: BUTLER, PA Posts: 531	low octane table costs about 20 HP and 25 ft. lb. torque, still felt slow prior to fuse pull, after fuse pull, the power was finally there, and of course I added the tune model Vararam without any tweeks to the tune, now, which of course no one believes I can get a chirp 1-2 AND 3-4 with traction control ON. Again for the typical thread reader, I have not been back to the Dyno, Vararam keeps saying that any day they will have a revised unit ready to correct problems, mine only has slight stumble at idle. If Vararam revises their unit, or I can it and buy another manufacturer, I will go back to the dyno and get proof, otherwise who knows. Dynos for typical L99 are 325/ 325, mine on low octane table were 300/305, the tune gained 27/47, then the fuse pull put back the 25/20 so was I at 352/ 367 before the Vararam? Maybe the answer will have to wait until after another dyno run, but I am just trying to put out the information, not argue with anyone. The fuse pull kept me from dumping the underperforming camaro, reminded me of my 1990 Impala SS, SLOW. So the minimum you can take away from this is if you want the truth, 27HP / 47 torque was not felt by me, the fuse pull really was felt and woke up the engine.

01-17-2011, 05:06 AM	#22
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	I have been having some people ask about these, so I wanted to bump it!

04-12-2011, 07:54 AM	#25
Tie Rod Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA Posts: 57	I would like to see a test side by side with a SCT and a Jannetty canned tune on your dyno. Then we can compair all three for ourselves.

04-13-2011, 05:31 PM	#26
Dave Da Drives: 2016 2ss hyper blue auto Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rochester,New York Posts: 20	Branden, Thank you for posting this as you know I just bought a preaditor from you and just tuned my car last week, it made a big differance in the performance, you can really notice it. I am putting the Kooks long tube headers and high flow cats on the car on thursday. You can store the stock tune and up to five extra tunes on the preaditor and Diablosports said to return you car to the stock tune if you have to take it into the dealer for service. I will take it to get tuned on a dyno next week and I will post the results. If anyone needs to get parts for their car Maryland speed Rocks, good advice and prices!! Thanks Dave D.

05-18-2013, 11:01 PM	#28
11TexaSS Drives: 2011RedJewel, FI Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Antonio,TX Posts: 816	Thanks for the info! You guys are great and always look to you first when I mod.