Challenger SRT8 or Camaro 2SS

[AZ MSCL]

Originally Posted by Synyster

... what? You sir, successfully confused me lol

I was just trying to be funny and confused myself too! Something to do with the LS3 and SRT8 6.1 engines being roughly the same size and HP. (same) mod for (same) mod, they'd still be about... the same.

Then the percocet kicked in.

[AZ MSCL]

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

Just test drive what you want and buy what you want, it'll be your freaking car. You're stirring the shit up coming here and posting like this.
The Challenger is beautiful, as is the Camaro. Camaro is overweight, Challenger needs to go on the TV show where the really overweight people lose weight. Camaro has trunk room, but a crappy trunk opening that limits access(didn't seem to buy mine for trunk space). I guess as long as there's enough room for the 10lb bottle I'll be happy.

I don't think the OP is trying to stir anything up (unless I misunderstood), the OP is asking for input comparing a 2011 2SS with a 2010 SRT8 (price wise a new 2010 SRT can be found for less than the 2011 2SS).

And why weight difference keeps getting mentioned, I don't get it. There is only about 300 lbs difference between the SRT and the SS. Pretty weak and overkilled difference (in my opinion) for two cars at roughly 4000 lbs. They BOTH need to go on the TV show where the really overweight people lose weight.

So in this particular comparison, neither the usual price difference nor weight is a factor. What's the big deal with the OP's questions? This is a car forum...

[Njja]

Interesting question. I was trying to decide between a Camaro, Shelby GT500, or the 392 Hemi Challanger. I test drove the Camaro and loved it! Lots of power, heads up display, and price was excellent! I ordered one and currently it has been unloaded from the rail car and should be at the dealer shortly.

While I was waiting I went looking for the Shelby. They are difficult to find, and impossible to test drive. I finally located one spent a couple of days looking it over, made an offer and picked it up. Only car I ever bought without a test drive. Car is everything you could hope for, fit & finish are excellent, and 550HP is unreal.

I didn't have much luck with the Hemi, closest 392's are a few states away and it's the slowest of the 3 in 1/4 mile and quite a bit more expensive then the Camaro!

I would say Camaro is best value! It's nice that you can take one for a test ride, it looks great, and is comfortable and fun to drive with lots of power.

If you like Hemi's might as well wait and see if they bring back the 426!

As for the Shelby, if you have the opportunity, you will not be dissapointed.....test ride or not!

[RooSSter]

I just recently picked up a 2010 Challenger SRT8 for mid 30s, it was too good of a deal to pass up for a daily driver while I wait for the prices and availability (dealer gouging) to come down on the ZL1s.

It drives really smooth, handles a lot better than I ever imagined and unless you’re constantly on the track the 10ths of a second difference stock won't matter. "Non-track" racing usually comes down to the driver each and every time stock vs. stock.

I really enjoy the nav system on the SRT8; I wish the Camaros came with that option. I would suggest getting the manual over the Auto-stick...you can't spell manual with out MAN and it is a man car (ducking from the ladies of C5)

Both cars are excellent choices and you really can't go wrong in my opinion with either choice.

If you’re really torn find a SRT Experience at a race track close to you and go drive every car in their line up at WOT on road tracks. It was the best driving experience I have ever had. You will pay 500 bucks (worth it eitherwaaayyy if you buy a SRT or not) and if you decide to get a SRT8 in 90 days from your track day dodge will take that price off your purchase. You will also get another SRT Experience with your new car as well so you can do it twice=) Check out the link below for more info.

http://www.drivesrt.com/en/track_exp...iew/index.html

Best of luck in your choice, either way you will have an awesome car that will be fun to drive!

[usa1camaro1969]

Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

I don't think the OP is trying to stir anything up (unless I misunderstood), the OP is asking for input comparing a 2011 2SS with a 2010 SRT8 (price wise a new 2010 SRT can be found for less than the 2011 2SS).

And why weight difference keeps getting mentioned, I don't get it. There is only about 300 lbs difference between the SRT and the SS. Pretty weak and overkilled difference (in my opinion) for two cars at roughly 4000 lbs. They BOTH need to go on the TV show where the really overweight people lose weight.

So in this particular comparison, neither the usual price difference nor weight is a factor. What's the big deal with the OP's questions? This is a car forum...

It's a camaro forum. We're going to show our bias.

I'm glad you think the 300 or so pounds difference isn't anything to be mentioned. Either way, both cars are overweight for what they should be.

[JHL88]

Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

Actually, mod for mod and the engines are almost exactly the same...

Of course if you include car bodies then you have to squeeze that same engine into that tiny little Camaro body, which is so much less comfortable and roomy than the Challenger.

So you actually meant LS engines are a lot less impressive.

mod for mod...

yep, the hemis do take quite well to mods, i can't wait to see what the 392 is going to push out with bolt ons...

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by JHL88

yep, the hemis do take quite well to mods, i can't wait to see what the 392 is going to push out with bolt ons...

A recent 392 with an intake and exhaust, without a tune, was putting down 445ish RWHP and 450 RWTQ.

I wouldnt be surprised that with a full header system, full exhaust, intake and tune you will see 480 RWHP and 490+ RWTQ. Basic bolt-ons.

[AZ MSCL]

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

It's a camaro forum. We're going to show our bias.

I'm glad you think the 300 or so pounds difference isn't anything to be mentioned. Either way, both cars are overweight for what they should be.

Agreed!

[bmwdon]

300 lbs is nothing to shirk, it's like gaining 30hp. Only real downfall to the hemi camp is the lack of tuning....chrysler is stingy as hell with the engine management software, point to GM for ease of tuning.

[Arachnyd]

Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

If the primary purpose of the car is to race it stock, the Camaro is the way to go. But if you want a DD with comfort, roominess and a trunk that fits more than a box of golf balls, plus you intend on modding because you race regularly and want to win, the Challenger SRT is the way to go.

Just kidding, both can be modded equally but the SRT is still roomier and has a trunk. You can't mod that into a Camaro.

Odd. I always brag about how huge the Camaro is. The largest trunk and the largest back seat of any sports car I've ever owned. Drove 4 people aroudn the other day and the guy is a muscle car nut (classic) and can't believe how much rear room and trunk room there is!

thats why I have a truck too... anytime I need a trunk. My 8' bed trumps your challenger in trunk room... lol

its all personal opinion when it comes down to deciding between these cars. I personally love the camaro. Its everything I wanted in a car... for now. Then again I'm eventually going to upgrade to italian. I have some friends who hate italian and are all about the muscle. my neighbors honda civic will smoke my camaro.

For me it was easy. I think the challenger looks funny, and I don't know why it's so expensive. I think its an old persons car- being under 40 driving a challenger just doesnt seem right. The mustang is well, a mustang. I hate mustang owners, and i've hated mustangs my entire life. theres no basis for that hatred, but I'm a free american, and therefore can love or hate anything I want for any reason I want.

I was looking at a F355 when I bought the camaro instead. That kind of power and driving abilities with the modern comforts I care about (I dont care about comfortable seats and nice feeling interiors... I care about bluetooth connectivity, Ipod connections, and navigation), at a price I can't beat. If price wasn't an object, I'd step up to something like a 360 modena.

Now I'm trying to decide between going italian (which is what I always wanted to do), or move to the ZL1 when it comes out. Been doing the math against the ZL1 because id buy it cash, and if I was going to buy a ZL1 cash, I might as well take a new camaro and dump 20k in it out the door, and it will probably smoke the ZL1... but I'm going to wait and see some final pricing, and get final info on whats under the hood.

I only went on my rant about italian because I know 90% of the people on this forum would care less about italian, just like I could care less about the challenger. I bought a sportbike because I'm too young for a harley. I bought a camaro because I'm too young for a challenger! haha...

But get whatever you want, and some people will rip on it, and other people will love on it, no matter what you got. Just the other day a bunch of guys in a 2000 mustang were making fun of a Noble M12 GTO. Really??? REALLY? Different strokes for different folks...

[Sawyer]

[SRT5939]

Originally Posted by StreetStrip

One thing to consider is the aftermarket accessories available for both cars and the cost of those accessories. Traditionally it costs a lot more to make a Dodge go fast.

Also, Chrysler is still in very poor financial condition and continues to struggle with UAW labor costs. There's a significant chance that they could go out of business; unless Barack Hussein Obama decides to bail out his union buddies again.

That is just bogus information right there. Chrysler is preparing to pay back the us gov. in full with loans they will be getting from other banks, they seem to be making profit.

[Eagles07]

I have the L99 with AFM and its fine. It's a Camaro SS with 400 hp...who cares about AFM!lol

[bmwdon]

The trunk, maybe, but the trunk entry is a pita to get a large suitcase through the damn thing on the camaro! And did you drive a challenger? We've got a 4 and 6 year old that have to either jump into the backseat on my challenger or the wifes camaro, we're both 5'9"/5'10" tall, so the front seats can't go all the way up on either. But the boys definitely got more rear leg room in my car than the camaro just wish the drivers side door on my car has the quick release like the camaro does, they load in from the passenger side on the challenger most times because of that oversight.

still amazed they didn't do a decent gps system on the camaro, for 2011 they did a green hud of the same stuff you get from the dash anyways. major pisser had to get the wife a metra kit and a decent clarion gps setup

Originally Posted by BumblebeeAmigo

The largest trunk and the largest back seat of any sports car I've ever owned....