modded camaro vs stock 2010 mustang gt

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by GEEo

If the '10 GT is stock I think he has a chnace of taking it out.

The 6's are faster than you think they are.

No, I know how fast they are. And I also know how fast a 2010 gt is (with people hitting 13.3s, and many people running 13.4's consistently). Really no chance there at all

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

No, I know how fast they are. And I also know how fast a 2010 gt is (with people hitting 13.3s, and many people running 13.4's consistently). Really no chance there at all

I honestly think if the GT is an auto and is COMPLETELY stock, then he has a chance. If it's a stick, no chance unless the OP dumps some more money into his 5th gen. I've raced both the 2010 GT and the 5th Gen V6 and put equal numbers of bus lengths on both. I'm not bragging cause with my mods, there's nothing to brag about. I'm just giving my honest opinion.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

No, I know how fast they are. And I also know how fast a 2010 gt is (with people hitting 13.3s, and many people running 13.4's consistently). Really no chance there at all

We've had members here with automatic V6ers, with the same mods as the OP but without gears run into the 13.4 range. (of course they had smaller diameter rims/tires which acted like gears). So in my opinion, with the right tire set the OPs car is capable of low 13s for sure.

I still think in this case the GT has the advantage, since the Camaro is running heavy 21" rims, but without those it would indeed be very close if both cars were driven properly. I just don't see how you couldn't accept that?

OPs car is easily pushing 340 to 350 HP and 300 to 310 TQ with 3.73 gears, but in a heavier car with heavier rims.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Advantage to the GT, but it will be close. For every 13.3 run in a '10 GT there are dozens of 14s runs. The two are close enough to make it very interesting.

OP, if you want to race your car get a set of light-weight 18's with good DRs for the track.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

I doubt the wheels make that much of a difference that even with all those mods I would be as fast as stock.

Going from 20" wheels to 21" wheels is worth about 20hp (.2 tenths). This is coming from GM and from guys that have switched out the factory 21" wheels for the factory 20" wheels. So you're going to need at least 20hp in mods to negate those 21" wheels.

With your mods, you should be faster than a stock V6 Camaro. But because of your wheels, I don't know how much.

One way to find out how fast your car runs is by going to the track. That's will answer your questions.

I really would consider some light weight 18" or 20" wheels if you're into drag racing. By switching to some light weight 20" wheels it will be like adding 20-30hp to your car.

[8cd03gro]

Go to the track and find out. Only way to know for sure.

[scythezo6]

I think the GT will win even with lighter wheels.

[gjarzabek009]

I would love to test out performance difference in 18/19" wheels vs 21"

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

I honestly think if the GT is an auto and is COMPLETELY stock, then he has a chance. If it's a stick, no chance unless the OP dumps some more money into his 5th gen. I've raced both the 2010 GT and the 5th Gen V6 and put equal numbers of bus lengths on both. I'm not bragging cause with my mods, there's nothing to brag about. I'm just giving my honest opinion.

An auto GT maybe, but no shot on a stick. but at the same time, with the BUS lengths you'd put on both cars, it would be difficult to tell a 3 or 4 car lengths, especially when you're that far ahead, which would be around what the gt has over this modded v-6.

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

We've had members here with automatic V6ers, with the same mods as the OP but without gears run into the 13.4 range. (of course they had smaller diameter rims/tires which acted like gears). So in my opinion, with the right tire set the OPs car is capable of low 13s for sure.

I still think in this case the GT has the advantage, since the Camaro is running heavy 21" rims, but without those it would indeed be very close if both cars were driven properly. I just don't see how you couldn't accept that?

OPs car is easily pushing 340 to 350 HP and 300 to 310 TQ with 3.73 gears, but in a heavier car with heavier rims.

Accept? This isn't something I'm in denial over. The mustang will put down similar power and more torque at the tires, with equal gears and 300 lbs lighter. Mustang by at least 3 cars, if both cars are driven close equally. Worth noting that a manual 2010 gt is very close time wise to an l99 camaro, in some cases trapping similar (2010 gt's have run numerous 13.3s and trapped upwards of 106 mph, same trap and slightly slower time to the l99, stock for stock of course)

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

I would love to test out performance difference in 18/19" wheels vs 21"

lightweight 18s to 21s from experience could translate to up to .4 in the 1/4.

Every pound you add onto your wheel/tire set up is something like adding 8 stationary pounds to your car. That is to say, if you add 8 pounds onto each of your rims, (8*8*4 rims), its like taking 250 pounds worth of weight and adding it into your trunk. On top of that, a larger and heavier rim requires more energy to move, that rotational mass physics shtuff.

I hate to beat it to death but lighter wheels are key, keep your 21s, just get a track set. You could also order 2 lightweight 18s off ebay and use two OEM spare tires as skinnies up front.

With the 18s, I think youll shut up those favoring the Stang in this race.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

lightweight 18s to 21s from experience could translate to up to .4 in the 1/4.

Every pound you add onto your wheel/tire set up is something like adding 8 stationary pounds to your car. That is to say, if you add 8 pounds onto each of your rims, (8*8*4 rims), its like taking 250 pounds worth of weight and adding it into your trunk. On top of that, a larger and heavier rim requires more energy to move, that rotational mass physics shtuff.

I hate to beat it to death but lighter wheels are key, keep your 21s, just get a track set. You could also order 2 lightweight 18s off ebay and use two OEM spare tires as skinnies up front.

With the 18s, I think youll shut up those favoring the Stang in this race.

Hmm.... I have 18s... I always wondered why Camaro V6's consistently run .4-.5 tenths slower even with more power and wider tires.

-The subjective cliché facet assigned to me is now prevailing.

[SIXJAK]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I also agree on the 21" rims slowing you down...but without it should be a good race.

There is a member here with a V6 manual and only a CAI, says by 100 MPH he was only one car length back from an 06 GT auto. The 2010 GT will be a bit faster than an 06 I'd say, and if its a manual, then even more so, but that should give you an idea of what the car can be capable of.

Ahh yes that would be me and the SW LT's with high flow cats are going on tomorrow.....I think. UPDATE: Dealer did not have gaskets so with Memorial Day weekend they won't be in til Wednesday Next up, SOLO cat back exhaust...was leaning Corsa but to my eye Solo has better looking tips 4.5" vs. 4" better price and they sound better to my ear to boot.

We were about even at launch but I was a fender ahead when shifting into 2nd. I lost a little ground shifting to 2nd caught back up to about even by the time I shifted into 3rd. Then from there he began inching ahead.

FTR the guy was cool we also did a roll on from about 60 MPH he beat me but not by much-all 3rd gear for me. That vintage of stang just aint that scary IMO. I think with the installation of LT's, catback exhaust, intake and Vince's 13 HP tune, the V6 Camaro can give that vintage all it can handle. Not only will I have gained some horses I'll have dropped some weight as well.

Race him and let us know what happens.

[Orange5thGen]

Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

I would love to test out performance difference in 18/19" wheels vs 21"

I plan on doing that very test very soon........

18's with a drag radial....

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

An auto GT maybe, but no shot on a stick. but at the same time, with the BUS lengths you'd put on both cars, it would be difficult to tell a 3 or 4 car lengths, especially when you're that far ahead, which would be around what the gt has over this modded v-6

Well I didn't mention that those were more like SHUTTLE BUS lengths I put on those cars. I also had a navigator/spotter who was taking copious notes as we put BUS lengths on them.....

Dude, a little common sense will tell you that the bone stock GT will not put 3-4 cars on his Camaro, with the mods it has.