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stovt001 · 03-08-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

we'll see. depends on how good that tapshift turns out to be....

Until I can see for myself, I'm pessimistic about that. I've only had experience with a manual mode on an automatic transmission on my mom's Mazda3, and that was not really good at all. I can just about shift a real manual just as fast, if not faster, and I'm just learning how to drive a stick shift. The Camaro's would have to be substantially faster to make me consider it. I'm not saying it can't, but it will have to shift significantly faster than the Mazda's to impress me.

SGOS252382 · 03-08-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Until I can see for myself, I'm pessimistic about that. I've only had experience with a manual mode on an automatic transmission on my mom's Mazda3, and that was not really good at all. I can just about shift a real manual just as fast, if not faster, and I'm just learning how to drive a stick shift. The Camaro's would have to be substantially faster to make me consider it. I'm not saying it can't, but it will have to shift significantly faster than the Mazda's to impress me.

Most Automatics are faster when the computer does the shifting. The paddle shifters (for most of today's automatics) are to add excitement and give the driver more control.
But at the drag strip, letting the computer do the shifting will most likely prove to be faster.
And for playing around on the street, the paddle shifters will add some excitement.

Gary B · 03-08-2009, 03:52 PM

4:10's and a decent track will help this car TREMENDOUSLY! It took a bit to get used to it, but my 95 Z picked up a few tenths changing to 4:10's....and that was without drag radials.

*DGthe3* · 03-08-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Until I can see for myself, I'm pessimistic about that. I've only had experience with a manual mode on an automatic transmission on my mom's Mazda3, and that was not really good at all. I can just about shift a real manual just as fast, if not faster, and I'm just learning how to drive a stick shift. The Camaro's would have to be substantially faster to make me consider it. I'm not saying it can't, but it will have to shift significantly faster than the Mazda's to impress me.

Anyone expecting it to be like an DCT automated manual with a shift time of under 100 ms will be disappointed. I expect it to essentially be like the D-3-2 automatics that debuted ages ago. But instead of moving the shifter up through the gears, you hit the paddle shifters. Now, GM might have done a bit of tuning to make the shifts a bit quicker, but it will not be significanytly different from a regular automatic.

The purpose of the tap-shift is not to make shifts faster, its to give you control of an automatic transmission.

*CamaroSpike23* · 03-08-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Until I can see for myself, I'm pessimistic about that. I've only had experience with a manual mode on an automatic transmission on my mom's Mazda3, and that was not really good at all. I can just about shift a real manual just as fast, if not faster, and I'm just learning how to drive a stick shift. The Camaro's would have to be substantially faster to make me consider it. I'm not saying it can't, but it will have to shift significantly faster than the Mazda's to impress me.

comparing the manual mode on a mazda3 (like the guy who was comparing his altima) to the new camaro is like comparing apples to a really bad ass car with 400hp.

im sure you can powershift a manual faster than what most older autos can shift, but i can bet my A4 can shift faster than you. this new A6 isnt the slushbox of old.

1320junkie · 03-08-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

comparing the manual mode on a mazda3 (like the guy who was comparing his altima) to the new camaro is like comparing apples to a really bad ass car with 400hp.

im sure you can powershift a manual faster than what most older autos can shift, but i can bet my A4 can shift faster than you. this new A6 isnt the slushbox of old.

2 words "Calve covers"

*CamaroSpike23* · 03-08-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie

2 words "Calve covers"

3 words....

I hate you

stovt001 · 03-08-2009, 04:17 PM

I of course expect the automatic to shift faster in automatic mode, especially in a drag race situation. Unfortunately, when using manual mode in the Mazda on a winding canyon road to give myself that extra control the delay between flicking the shifter and the actual shift meant that the shift came as I was exiting the curve even though I initiated the downshift on the way into it. That kind of delay just doesn't work. The Altima-Mazda-Camaro shift time comparison works because they're all entirely traditional automatics with a manual mode coded in.

I'd love to see DCT like times, but we know that's just not going to happen. If they can at least minimize the gap between shift times and response in automatic and manual modes, I'll consider it.

1320junkie · 03-08-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

3 words....

I hate you

lmao

TJ91 · 03-08-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zebra

one thing i will say... the auto does not have launch control. that's only a feature with the manual.

and only having a 304hp V6 or 426hp V8

One thing i will say, is that he showed me. So i dont know, where did it say it wasnt included in the L99? I really would like to know, because he showed me and alot of people there. Are you sure its not on the auto?

Crowley · 03-09-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

Only in 2009 could anyone be disappointed with a factory trim car trapping only 111-112mph in the quarter.

Well .. look at what the competition is running these days ... honestly .. I can't believe it won't .... If it can't, it wouldn't even run w/ a 2003/2004 Cobra stock for stock ....

I know people think .. come on .. what do you want .. 109 or so is fast and I do agree .. I'm just saying .. with other cars out there and what they can run with how much they weigh, I will be dissapointed if it isn't at 111mph ..

Crowley

Scott@Bjorn3D · 03-09-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ91

One thing i will say, is that he showed me. So i dont know, where did it say it wasnt included in the L99? I really would like to know, because he showed me and alot of people there. Are you sure its not on the auto?

I also heard the auto has launch control and it was not from the meeting you had but another guy talking to a GM guy.

boxmonkeyracing · 03-09-2009, 10:09 AM

109 mph with a 1.9 60 I fully will be in the 12's for this car. I am almost for certain this 13.2 crap is with a 2.2 60 ft. So ur looking at a 12.75 with a 1.9 60.

Btw go vols.

Who's going to take their camaro to pinks all out?

Silver Streak · 03-09-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

109 mph with a 1.9 60 I fully will be in the 12's for this car. I am almost for certain this 13.2 crap is with a 2.2 60 ft. So ur looking at a 12.75 with a 1.9 60.

Btw go vols.

Who's going to take their camaro to pinks all out?

Pinks would be cool, doubt I would be able to with my schedules. Who knows though, could get lucky and be free on that day. I always thought about doing that, definately all-out and not just pinks though lol.

03-08-2009, 04:17 PM	#50
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	I of course expect the automatic to shift faster in automatic mode, especially in a drag race situation. Unfortunately, when using manual mode in the Mazda on a winding canyon road to give myself that extra control the delay between flicking the shifter and the actual shift meant that the shift came as I was exiting the curve even though I initiated the downshift on the way into it. That kind of delay just doesn't work. The Altima-Mazda-Camaro shift time comparison works because they're all entirely traditional automatics with a manual mode coded in. I'd love to see DCT like times, but we know that's just not going to happen. If they can at least minimize the gap between shift times and response in automatic and manual modes, I'll consider it. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

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03-08-2009, 03:52 PM	#45
Gary B Drives: Subaru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ct. Posts: 572	4:10's and a decent track will help this car TREMENDOUSLY! It took a bit to get used to it, but my 95 Z picked up a few tenths changing to 4:10's....and that was without drag radials.