Camaro SS Automatic (13.2 @ 109 mph)?

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

thanks. thats one thing we will need to do. I'm going to be moving to Knoxville around this time next year. I know I'll get a chance to meet up with Zebra then, if not before.

ROAD TRIP!!!

Originally Posted by zebra

i look forward to it. right now i'm kinda broke, so you'd have to come to tn!

Not a problem

[Ject]

<---- isn't massive car smart.. my expertise is in computers... gradually learning vehicle stuff.

Gear ratio 3:45's? 3:73's? 4:10's?
No idea what this means.. yes I know "haha at the retard"
What makes 4:10 better than 3:45? (sorry to hijack thread if I am)

[PQ]

4:10 is closer to quitting time than 3:45

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by irpq11

4:10 is closer to quitting time than 3:45

[zebra]

Originally Posted by Ject

<---- isn't massive car smart.. my expertise is in computers... gradually learning vehicle stuff.

Gear ratio 3:45's? 3:73's? 4:10's?
No idea what this means.. yes I know "haha at the retard"
What makes 4:10 better than 3:45? (sorry to hijack thread if I am)

the simple explanation:
the lower gear ratios (4.10 & 3.73) are better for acceleration.
the higher gear ratios (3.45 & 3.27) are better for top speed & economy.

what the numbers mean:
if you have a 3.73 differential, the drive shaft has to turn 3.73 times to turn the axle
once. the proper way to write it is 3.73:1, but it's assumed that you mean ':1' so we leave it off

Originally Posted by irpq11

4:10 is closer to quitting time than 3:45

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by zebra

are you serious?! if i make OTS, i'll be shipping to Maxwell AFB sometime between now & the end of this sept

and why do you want to be an officer SP again?
but sure not better than the stock 3:45s or 3:27s in the 5th gens!

we'll see. if she can go 11s on 4.10s without FI, 4.33s and 10psi should do wonders

.

[greg_74]

Originally Posted by Visual_Perfection

Very true.. but also keep in mind that was on DR's.. so put some DR's on a 5th gen and I can see Mid 12's being possible stock.

Yeah it wasn't like I was getting full use of them though. I never spun, but I also never launched it as hard as I could have. I had like 2.1 60 ft times, so if I was taking full advantage of them I would have better 60 ft times.

[Ject]

Originally Posted by zebra

the simple explanation:
the lower gear ratios (4.10 & 3.73) are better for acceleration.
the higher gear ratios (3.45 & 3.27) are better for top speed & economy.

what the numbers mean:
if you have a 3.73 differential, the drive shaft has to turn 3.73 times to turn the axle
once. the proper way to write it is 3.73:1, but it's assumed that you mean ':1' so we leave it off

AHHHHH i'm following yeah now, makes it so much clearer now since I always see people talking about gear ratios lol

Thanks

[Crowley]

The manual will not be slower than the auto .... you can count on that .. if the manual doesn't trap 111 - 112 in the 1/4 .. I'll be VERY disappointed ..

Crowley

[TJ91]

The auto was said to get 4.6 with launch control to 60, the LS3... now dont kill yourselves yet, let me explain first, was said to get 4.9. Now i was told this by one of GMs own employee who played a major role in testing the pre-pros. He first said that the L99 with LC achieved a 4.6, he then said the LS3 got 4.9 but he was shocked, he said that he had gotten better, and he really doubts the 4.9, he claimed that he thinks that was achieved without LC. He knew everything, he knew that the v6 gets better the 6.1, he boldy told the crowd that you would get mid to high 5 seconds. He explained that he doesnt know exactly why it was released as 6.1, but he explained how it was better and that was a good story! SO anyways him telling me that the LS3 was far better then 4.9 with his background was good enough confirmation. With a good driver, the LS3 should be right with the auto, maybe a bit better, maybe a bit worse, youll just have to see for yourself

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by Crowley

The manual will not be slower than the auto .... you can count on that .. if the manual doesn't trap 111 - 112 in the 1/4 .. I'll be VERY disappointed ..

Crowley

Only in 2009 could anyone be disappointed with a factory trim car trapping only 111-112mph in the quarter.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Only in 2009 could anyone be disappointed with a factory trim car trapping only 111-112mph in the quarter.

no crap.

sometimes i sit here and think to myself... wtf.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by TJ91

The auto was said to get 4.6 with launch control to 60, the LS3... now dont kill yourselves yet, let me explain first, was said to get 4.9. Now i was told this by one of GMs own employee who played a major role in testing the pre-pros. He first said that the L99 with LC achieved a 4.6, he then said the LS3 got 4.9 but he was shocked, he said that he had gotten better, and he really doubts the 4.9, he claimed that he thinks that was achieved without LC. He knew everything, he knew that the v6 gets better the 6.1, he boldy told the crowd that you would get mid to high 5 seconds. He explained that he doesnt know exactly why it was released as 6.1, but he explained how it was better and that was a good story! SO anyways him telling me that the LS3 was far better then 4.9 with his background was good enough confirmation. With a good driver, the LS3 should be right with the auto, maybe a bit better, maybe a bit worse, youll just have to see for yourself

one thing i will say... the auto does not have launch control. that's only a feature with the manual.

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Only in 2009 could anyone be disappointed with a factory trim car trapping only 111-112mph in the quarter.

and only having a 304hp V6 or 426hp V8

[Matrix]

Originally Posted by zebra

no... actually this auto has been proven faster a few times in some 'unofficial' tests


the issue ain't about how much power difference there is between the engines; it's about the transmissions. that 6L80 is a heck of a stock performer... not to say the TR6060 ain't, but i think it'll be more of a drivers' race in the end.

for drags, i think the auto will win out in the camaro, but in road courses, the stick will be the better one

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