Texas speed new long tbe headers

[rjdapilmoto]

caverman,

Thanks for the reply. That was good information that I'll keep in mind when I'm ready to pull the trigger for my LT's. Just like many of us on here, I'm looking for the best bang for the buck.

[ssmike]

1 7/8 LT's, T304 heavy guage stainless steel, 3" merger, with O2 extenders and off road mids $500, with O2 extenders and cats $750. I don't think Kooks, ARH, or any others can come close to that price including mid pipe connections! These can't be beat for the money as far as I can see. I hope to be ordering a set next week!

[InfernoCamaroSS]

What would be the best combo with these headers. I would want the highflow cats and I want a three inch x pipe. Would that combo work with these headers.

[LittleMT]

Originally Posted by InfernoCamaroSS

What would be the best combo with these headers. I would want the highflow cats and I want a three inch x pipe. Would that combo work with these headers.

that would be bangin! throw in thier 3 inch axle back exhaust, and you are set...

[IronMike]

If any Vendor can come close on Kooks or another name brand as to TSP 1 7/8 headers with High flow cats for $750, please hit me up with a PM, would love to compare prices, haven't seen any place that comes close to that yet.

[Juiced1]

Originally Posted by LittleMT

really? they are under $500 with off road pipes... you sell me some ARH's for under $500?

I have to say they are cheaper then I thought. The first set on the page lists for $800 without a connection pipe, when you add a catted connection pipe and shipping your over $1100. Then they have a set for under $500. Not sure what the differance is, the cheaper set is polished. Not sure if there is any other differances. But, if you can get stainless headers that cheap by all means go for it. I would.

[bpoirier]

I installed a set of the new TSP headers and hi flow cats on a friends car last weekend. I think he paid $785 to his door. The headers and cats fit perfectly with no issues. If these headers are what you can afford you won't be disappointed.

[blazzin1]

Originally Posted by Juiced1

I have to say they are cheaper then I thought. The first set on the page lists for $800 without a connection pipe, when you add a catted connection pipe and shipping your over $1100. Then they have a set for under $500. Not sure what the differance is, the cheaper set is polished. Not sure if there is any other differances. But, if you can get stainless headers that cheap by all means go for it. I would.

As I understand it, the $800 headers on their website are the 409 Stainless Headers that TSP has been selling for a long time now. They are made in the U.S., and are a great header, but still 409 Stainless. The new $500 headers they are offering I believe are based off of the same design as their 409's, but they are actually manufactured "out of the country" (not sure where, but not in the U.S.). The new headers are 304 Stainless, but since they are not U.S. made, they are cheaper.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by Juiced1

I have to say they are cheaper then I thought. The first set on the page lists for $800 without a connection pipe, when you add a catted connection pipe and shipping your over $1100. Then they have a set for under $500. Not sure what the differance is, the cheaper set is polished. Not sure if there is any other differances. But, if you can get stainless headers that cheap by all means go for it. I would.

The difference is the more expensive ones are made in the USA and the cheaper ones are made overseas. I'm assuming China but don't know about that.

Doesn't China have a differernt standard on metals? I thought I heard a while back...probably in the OBX debate....how the metals in China are much cheaper and lack the quality of USA metals.

Again...not knocking them just saying that's what I remember reading. Hopefully people don't come back on here in a year or so saying how they are leaking or something. Otherwise they are probably a good deal.

Like Juiced said....if they fit your budget better than get them.

[GEEo]

Originally Posted by rxfox3

Kooks are nice headers, but why pay twice as much?

+1!

What exactly separates KOOKS or ARH from the TSP Headers?

Quality - They all have T304 steel, I would think they all would have the same quality since their built in the same material?

Performance - They all have similar gains of 30 - 50 whp w/ tune and supporting mods. also they all come in 1 7/8's with HF Cats and OR cats.

and IDK exactly if the TSP headers are made in america or not but whats wrong if its not?

So why does KOOKS and ARH for example cost almost twice as much?

[caverman]

Originally Posted by GEEo

+1!

What exactly separates KOOKS or ARH from the TSP Headers?

Quality - They all have T304 steel, I would think they all would have the same quality since their built in the same material?

Performance - They all have similar gains of 30 - 50 whp w/ tune and supporting mods.

and IDK exactly if the TSP headers are made in america or not but whats wrong if its not?

So why does KOOKS and ARH for example cost twice as much?

Not justifying the price difference by any means but TSP definatley said they were made overseas and is why they are cheaper. From what I"ve heard the metal standards are not the same as the USA and thier quality control is probably not the same as here in the US.

Is it enough to justify the price difference....I don't know . Just saying that's part of the reason it's cheaper.

[GEEo]

Originally Posted by caverman

Not justifying the price difference by any means but TSP definatley said they were made overseas and is why they are cheaper. From what I"ve heard the metal standards are not the same as the USA and thier quality control is probably not the same as here in the US.

Is it enough to justify the price difference....I don't know . Just saying that's part of the reason it's cheaper.

On the grade of steel in asia in its mostly the same. Because my grandpa and his friend use to run a Dry Dock for Cargo ships and most of the steel they use is imported form the US. But that was in the Philippines. not china.

Also It's on Boats not on Mass produced products.

And for quality control. its a mess. lol

I cant Really decide on which Headers To go KOOKS or ARH or TSP. If I go with KOOKS or ARH its gunna be a couple of months more. But if I go TSP I can get in a couple of weeks But scared of what I'm reading about the possibilities could happen in a year or so. this is a tougher decision making than I thought.

[Ovenmitt]

TSP headers can't be beat. I have their older 409 headers and love them. The new ones are cheaper, and nicer looking. Win/Win

[Jason 98 TA]

We were very careful in selecting the materials & the manufacturer that builds our headers. They are absolutely top of the line quality. We could have saved $45 per set of headers building them with lower quality materials, but that's not the way we work. We always work to build top of the line quality products for our customers.

The material is a 304 stainless & they are 2.0mm thick where all the manufacturers making camaro headers are using 1.5mm.

Remember 99% of the manufacturers use a stainless that is imported in & then bent in the U.S.

The TSP 304 stainless headers are manufactured over seas, but the parts still meet our requirements to make sure the customer gets the best possible product.

I will absolutely put our header against anyone's headers in the world. If we didn't believe 1000% in these headers we wouldn't put our name on it!