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cmacclel · 06-30-2011, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnightRiderSS

hmmm...I will have to take mine off again and look at it to see if the nut closest to the block is removable....I looked at it during the install and it didn't look like it would...it looked like it was fixed to the bolt..my 2010 is a late model and has some 2011 parts on it....

if it is...hopefully I will have saved some people from

You can't remove the closest nut to the block. The factory bolt is a Hex head stud.

Mac

IndeedSS1 · 06-30-2011, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmacclel

You can't remove the closest nut to the block. The factory bolt is a Hex head stud.

Mac

This is what I was thinking. But Elite guys are saying the shaft should tighten up to the block...well with the ring terminal and harness stay still in place.

I was beginning to doubt what I saw on my own car, until I verified it last night.

Bell040 · 06-30-2011, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnightRiderSS

Does anyone know the part number for this bolt?

We will see what the other member's research into his failure turns up. Until then, here is a close up of mine:

That is a fatigue fracture surface for sure. The bottom half surface that has the swirlies is where the crack was growing with every wave of vibration.

I guess you wouldn't expect any other kind of fracture, due to the way the can is mounted on the end of an arm... in an engine bay that is constantly vibrating.

Camaro21 · 06-30-2011, 01:17 PM

I recently installed the Heavy Duty Belt Tensioner for the Maggie that I purchased from East Texas Muscle Cars and had to find a solution for my Elite Engineering Catch Can. I went to Home Depot and bout a 5" long 5/16" Bolt and cut the extra spacer that came with the tensioner and remounted the catch can using one of the mounting holes for the tensioner. (Note: I couldn't find any Grade 8 Bolts, so I put a nut on the backside of the new bracket for the tensioner for stability. I will replace once I can find one.)

Here are a few pics.

IndeedSS1 · 06-30-2011, 01:36 PM

^^^I don't even see the stud in question.

RedRyder · 06-30-2011, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmacclel

You can't remove the closest nut to the block. The factory bolt is a Hex head stud.

Mac

So, is this right? Can anyone confirm?

IndeedSS1 · 06-30-2011, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRyder

So, is this right? Can anyone confirm?

I was hoping one of the Elite guys would be back in. When I zoomed in on the picture in post 10 it sure looks like one solid piece to me.

Camaro21 · 06-30-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

^^^I don't even see the stud in question.

I can't use the Stud in Question to mount the catch can with this new Tensioner (would be in the way), but had to remove the extension from the Stud and find an alternate solution to mount the catch can.

Camaro21 · 06-30-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRyder

So, is this right? Can anyone confirm?

This is correct, the stud had the nut Made onto it.. Originally there is 1 removable nut, the other is part of the stud.

Godon Hutchinson · 06-30-2011, 05:02 PM

Mine has the double nuts on it to. so when i installed the catch can rod i only removed the one nut becuase the hex head nut is a forged piece along with the bolt/stud. Ithink that GM must have changed the design of the bolt some time in production and went from the single threaded nut like shown on the elite web site install instructions to the foged bolt/stud with a double nut design. Any way I want to thank Steve and everyone at elite engineering for a great product and the personal service during my problems. Edit: Iam going to xray the hex head bolt/stud tomorrow at work to make sure it is a forged piece. I tried with everything i could today when i got home to try and remove the hex head nut from the stud since mine was broke and i couldnt get it to move.

KnightRiderSS · 06-30-2011, 11:05 PM

Stopped by the dealership today to buy a replacement bolt it is part number:11609977 I will see if the part is different from the stock bolt and post pictures when it comes in. Thanks Steve from Elite Engineering for your help!

Heliwrench · 06-30-2011, 11:27 PM

anyone have the part number of the nut we removed during install? I want to relocate the can, but lost that nut.

edit: nevermind, found it...

Inferno LSX · 07-01-2011, 12:31 PM

Dude that sux, I was thinking of ordering another catch can.

IndeedSS1 · 07-01-2011, 01:03 PM

Just to add. My car is a May 2010 build and has the double nut or nut and hex nut stud as earlier pictured.

06-30-2011, 01:17 PM	#60
Camaro21 Drives: SOLD - 2013 M6 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 5,040 View My Garage	I recently installed the Heavy Duty Belt Tensioner for the Maggie that I purchased from East Texas Muscle Cars and had to find a solution for my Elite Engineering Catch Can. I went to Home Depot and bout a 5" long 5/16" Bolt and cut the extra spacer that came with the tensioner and remounted the catch can using one of the mounting holes for the tensioner. (Note: I couldn't find any Grade 8 Bolts, so I put a nut on the backside of the new bracket for the tensioner for stability. I will replace once I can find one.) Here are a few pics. Attached Images

06-30-2011, 01:36 PM	#61
IndeedSS1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Eastern MO Posts: 3,786	^^^I don't even see the stud in question. __________________ She is only memory now.

06-30-2011, 05:02 PM	#66
Godon Hutchinson Drives: 2010 1SS/RS Imperial Blue Metallic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Huntington West Va Posts: 443	Mine has the double nuts on it to. so when i installed the catch can rod i only removed the one nut becuase the hex head nut is a forged piece along with the bolt/stud. Ithink that GM must have changed the design of the bolt some time in production and went from the single threaded nut like shown on the elite web site install instructions to the foged bolt/stud with a double nut design. Any way I want to thank Steve and everyone at elite engineering for a great product and the personal service during my problems. Edit: Iam going to xray the hex head bolt/stud tomorrow at work to make sure it is a forged piece. I tried with everything i could today when i got home to try and remove the hex head nut from the stud since mine was broke and i couldnt get it to move. Last edited by Godon Hutchinson; 06-30-2011 at 06:31 PM.

06-30-2011, 11:05 PM	#67
KnightRiderSS Voodoo Medicine Man Drives: Black 2SS with RS package Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: IL Posts: 917	Stopped by the dealership today to buy a replacement bolt it is part number:11609977 I will see if the part is different from the stock bolt and post pictures when it comes in. Thanks Steve from Elite Engineering for your help! __________________

06-30-2011, 11:27 PM	#68
Heliwrench Drives: 2010 Black 1SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Langley BC Posts: 666	anyone have the part number of the nut we removed during install? I want to relocate the can, but lost that nut. edit: nevermind, found it... __________________ 2010 Black 1SS LS3 M6 Power: Kook's 1 7/8" Long Tubes and 3" Exhaust, Injen Full Length CAI, Jannetty Tune Drivetrain: MGW Short Shifter, Street Slayer Twin Clutch, DSS 1 Piece Aluminum Driveshaft, DSS 1000HP Axles, BMR Pro and Delrin Diff Bushings Suspension: BMR Trailing Arms and Bushings, FE6 Swaybar Conversion With Pedders 27mm Front and 32mm Rear ZL1 Swaybars and Links Chassis: Hotchkis Chassis Max Brace, BMR Pro Cradle Bushings Exterior:: Shine by Adam's. ...and plenty more Last edited by Heliwrench; 06-30-2011 at 11:58 PM.

07-01-2011, 12:31 PM	#69
Inferno LSX Supercharged LSX Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Black/Carbon Fiber Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: City of Angels Posts: 6,741 View My Garage	Dude that sux, I was thinking of ordering another catch can. __________________

07-01-2011, 01:03 PM	#70
IndeedSS1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Eastern MO Posts: 3,786	Just to add. My car is a May 2010 build and has the double nut or nut and hex nut stud as earlier pictured. __________________ She is only memory now.

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