Dissappointed that Camaro NOT built in USA

[Hawgredcamaro]

I agree. I'm disappointed it's not built in the US but Canada is the next best thing. I'd still rather buy an American car built in Canada than a Japanese car built in the US!

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by nferno

I love all the union bashing in this thread. So the CEO's and all the high level managers had nothing to do with the colapse of GM. No it was the little guy trying to do right by his family and go to work everyday. It was the higher ups that agreed and signed off on the contracts the unions got. I can not belive no one blames them. after all they flew down to the capital in private jets to ask the tax payers for money to bail them out and got there bonus money after they got it.... Na they have nothing to do with the problems in the american economy. The average CEO make over 200 times the money thier employees make. The CEO of the company I work for got 24.5 million salary last year. but lets attack and punish the people making 60,000 to 70,000 a year. They do not deserve to make that kind of money. very narrow minded of people point figers at the unions. Rant over

I love my camaro and I am happy it was built in canada the car is great

It's ridiculous to say the union wasn't at fault either. There's only so much you can ask from your employer before you're asking for too much. And this is coming from the son of a UAW member and GM retiree.

It was a huge ****storm of problems, from management to the unions to the American public themselves that lead to the demise of GM.

As for the corporate jet thing, that was the most immature display of stupidity I've ever seen come out of Washington. What major corporation that conducts business in every part of the globe DOESN'T have a private jet? Give me a break.

[cmore]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It's ridiculous to say the union wasn't at fault either. There's only so much you can ask from your employer before you're asking for too much. And this is coming from the son of a UAW member and GM retiree.

It was a huge ****storm of problems, from management to the unions to the American public themselves that lead to the demise of GM.

As for the corporate jet thing, that was the most immature display of stupidity I've ever seen come out of Washington. What major corporation that conducts business in every part of the globe DOESN'T have a private jet? Give me a break.

[nferno]

well if you can afford to keep it flying then do not ask the goverment for money that was them thinking americans are stupid, that was ignorant of gm to do that at that time. not saying owning your on jet is wrong just was wrong to flant it then. and they took thier bonus money also (for a company they help drive into the ground) they should have not recived one at all, not until it was pulled out of bankruptcy. REMEMBER THE COMPANY AGREED TO THE CONTRACT THAT WAS IN PLACE>>>> THEY COULD HAVE SAID NO... you make it sound like they are powerless during the negotiations. Like I said it was a lot of different factors i did not exclude the unions I just did not blame it all on them.. like some of the posts

[CROOPS34]

Originally Posted by Devon

lol Really?

Originally Posted by Allan Hernandez

What do you expect when you call Canada "America's Hat"? We are very much a different country who has our own problems but if you were paying any attention to the rest of the world when everyone's economy imploded a few years ago, you would have noticed that Canada was in better shape then most because we AREN'T just America's hat and we do have a lot to be proud of. We contributed A LOT of money to the failing car companies just like the states did.

Originally Posted by ga0358

A little off topic, but watch John Candy's classic "Canadian Bacon" about the US invading Canada...

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3602645273/

Yup, also, there was a time when the US tried to invade Canada.... Uhhh, didn't go so well.

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

psshh, 75-80% of the land mass isn't even populated. doesn't count. thanks for keeping our head warm!

Ya, wish we could populate every single square inch of the country instead of having a vast beautiful open country to enjoy when you feel like not being in the city.

Originally Posted by fshog

OH-OH....That's going to open up a can of worms!!!

yup... even though there are less Canadians on this site I'm surprised that more Canadians aren't offended by the ignorence of SOME of these comments. Please notice I said SOME because I know not ALL Americans have the same opinion.

Originally Posted by Hylton

I know this statement will tick a lot of Canadians off but after travelling the world and being exposed to the diplomatic/expat core for over a decade, it's a very true statement.

Have a conversation with a foreigner in a foreign land if you ever have the opportunity. They will say that they have have never been to "America" when talking about Canada. They look at you like you are from another planet when you tell them we are different. They sort of see it as Scotland and Ireland (which is in The United Kingdom). Obviously it's not true but seeing ourselves as others see us can be enlightening.

I'll have to dissagree with you on this one. I've been to many places in Europe especially where locals look at you with the stink eye and once they find out you're from Canada they change their tune and will tell you straight out "sorry, we thought you were American" Now just to be clear this isn't right either. They have no reason to have a negative attitude about ALL of ANYONE.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It's ridiculous to say the union wasn't at fault either. There's only so much you can ask from your employer before you're asking for too much. And this is coming from the son of a UAW member and GM retiree.

It was a huge ****storm of problems, from management to the unions to the American public themselves that lead to the demise of GM.

As for the corporate jet thing, that was the most immature display of stupidity I've ever seen come out of Washington. What major corporation that conducts business in every part of the globe DOESN'T have a private jet? Give me a break.

I was surprised in some posts in this thread that people blaimed the unions for Camaros not being built in the US but the GM employees in Oshawa are members of the same Universal Union. Lots of people have pointed out here that there are plenty of GM vehicles made in the US, and some people are just pissy because it's not the GM vehicles that THEY want to be built in the US. They guys and gals in Oshawa are doing a fantastic job building a kick ass car! Keep it up friends....

[CloudXTC]

Originally Posted by suplex

I'm disappointed that the Camaro isn't built in America too. Also, even on the window sticker, it states that the Engine is from Mexico and the Transmission from France.

And yes...to agree with NavyDood...the Fourth Generation Camaro was built in Canada as well (I had a 1994 Model Camaro), but in understanding what Baltimorejohn1 means, it is a bit of a let down that a Chevrolet Camaro is built outside of the states, it really should be built in America.

Let's face it, the slogan doesn't go like this:

"The heartbeat of Canada, is today's Chevrolet".

What's next to build in Canada...Harley Davidson's?

we have a few factories here

[CloudXTC]

if they built it in usa you'd pay more for the car... now u still want them to build it in usa?

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by CloudXTC

if they built it in usa you'd pay more for the car... now u still want them to build it in usa?

uhh yes

[midnighter]

Off topic-ish but let's not forget that regardless where your car was built, the gas you pump into it over and over again comes from the Middle East, not the USA.

[xlroadster]

Originally Posted by midnighter

Off topic-ish but let's not forget that regardless where your car was built, the gas you pump into it over and over again comes from the Middle East, not the USA.

Depends on where you go. Kwik-Fill over where I live makes it a point to let you know that the gas you buy from them is sourced in the USA.

[OUR72GTO]

Originally Posted by midnighter

Off topic-ish but let's not forget that regardless where your car was built, the gas you pump into it over and over again comes from the Middle East, not the USA.

That's actually not correct.

45% of your oil comes from.....


CANADA.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

psshh, 75-80% of the land mass isn't even populated. doesn't count. thanks for keeping our head warm!

Anytime and thanks for keeping Canada's ass warm

Originally Posted by wylde1

I couldn't possibly disagree with this statement more.....


This thread is just full of

I whole heartedly agree with this, us Canadians are a lot like you Americans. We, and I make this very very clear now, DO NOT LIVE IN IGLOOS, DO NOT ALWAYS SAY EH (It's Mostly Nufies that do this), THE RCMP DO NOT RIDE ON HORSES (That is a ceremonial thing) Thank you and hopefully my fellow Canadians will help break down these ridiculous stereotypes.

[Devon]

Originally Posted by CROOPS34

What do you expect when you call Canada "America's Hat"? We are very much a different country who has our own problems but if you were paying any attention to the rest of the world when everyone's economy imploded a few years ago, you would have noticed that Canada was in better shape then most because we AREN'T just America's hat and we do have a lot to be proud of. We contributed A LOT of money to the failing car companies just like the states did.

Excellent post CROOPS34.

I quoted this part of your post because it brings up a point about the bailout. I made the following post in another thread about this subject last night. Just ran some rough numbers and here's what I came up in regards to the amounts paid by Canada and the US to General Motors to keep them afloat.

Food for thought. Correct me if it's flawed.

"Per-Capita, the Canadian population payed more for the GM bailout than the American population. USA gave $52 billion, and with a population of roughly 307 million, that works out to $169 per person.

Canada gave 9.5 million, and with a population of roughly 33.7 million that works out to $281 per person. If you take just Ontario (population 13.2 million), it works out to $719 per person."

[Camaro10v6]

Originally Posted by Outlaw77

I'm just thankful someone built the dam thing!!