Who thinks this is unacceptable??

[fbodfather]

OK - I don't have the time to read thru this thread......I have other stuff that needs to be done..................

SOOOOOOOOOOO -- CALM DOWN!!!!!


NOW!!!!

It came off the line -- he drove it off the line -- it did NOT GO THRU INSPECTION BEFORE HE DROVE IT OFF THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!

HE DROVE IT OFF THE LINE -- -- he THEN drove it out to our enthusiasts -- drove it BACK INTO THE PLANT -- and it will go thru inspection!

I do not know if the door was open or closed - but I can tell you that we look for things like this in final inspection and they are corrected.

CALM DOWN!!!!

(....sorry - -but I keep getting emails all day long with the latest 'panic du jour' -- and I don't have the time to run over here every two hours.....)

CALM DOWN!!!

Let's go back to when SOMEONE leaked the first picture of a car without cammo -- remember the infamous white car?????........

THE WORLD WAS COMING TO AN END AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!! We were accused of everything including driving Teddy's car at Chappaquiddick and of course taking out Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- and look at how you love the way the car turned out! How many people had strokes over a bad picture?????

I could list at least 6 dozen 'panics du jour' -- and EVERY ONE OF THEM was for naught............

CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

OK -- CALM DOWN!!!!!


NOW!!!!

It came off the line -- he drove it off the line -- it did NOT GO THRU INSPECTION -- he drove it out to our enthusiasts -- drove it BACK INTO THE PLANT -- and it will go thru inspection!

I do not know if the door was open or closed - but I can tell you that we look for things like this in final inspection and they are corrected.

CALM DOWN!!!!

(....sorry - -but I keep getting emails all day long with the latest 'panic du jour' -- and I don't have the time to run over here every two hours.....)

CALM DOWN!!!

Let's go back to when the first picture of the white car showed up........

THE WORLD WAS COMING TO AN END AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!!

I could list at least 6 dozen 'panics du jour' -- and EVERY ONE OF THEM was for naught............

CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for chiming in Scott .

Can you take a look at this thread below and comment in it??

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15773

[ArcAngel]

Thanks fbodfather, I hope that it was resolved. I will say this it's hard to tell people to calm down when they are dropping 40,000 of there hard earned money. We just want it to be worth all our sweat and dedication. Once again thanks!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by marcgo2

This is an excellent point, but why wouldn't they go over #1 with a fine tooth comb. Especially, since it's being presented to high profile person at a high profile event. If they finished 150 on the first day it doesn't seem like they were rushed too much.

I cannot say why they didn't go over that one, but from the pictures it was still on the line, and the normal procedure is to wait untill AFTER the 400 are built to be able to do them all at one time, mainly because the folks that give the final thumbs up come from various parts of the country... That was told to me by My contact from GM on the Sky Forum, which I followed even closer than I have this one...

[kdbolt70]

Originally Posted by CamaroSSforme

Yawn...and yet another thread started by the reigning post whore and shit starter.

Ok..yep the door panel is misaligned. So were my Lexus GX470's when I got them. It wasn't the first off the line..and *GASP* Lexus took care of it when I noticed and mentioned it.

Move along people the only thing to see here is YET another POST by certain posters screaming about blah blah blah...telling us how this is somehow different from every other manufacturer out there. Sorry not buying it. I've actually owned the big boys of car quality - I've actually been head of product development of a manufacturer - I actually have some common sense - I actually am not a posting to hear myself screech.

Talk to me when it's about your own car, and when GM has told you to go f*** yourself. Then you might have something to bitch about.

Can we be friends?

[meanmike]

It's funny that it tokk him saying the same thing that other's have been saying all through this thread and yet some of you could'nt figure that out for yourselve's.

[greenrail]

Are those the real headlights??????? (Kust Kidding!)

This is why the Manufacturer puts the vehicles througha Quality check prior to release for shipping. even after transport to the dealer, there is a PDI Process for the Dealer to follow which preps the car prior to delivery to the Customer.

Scott is so right, Calm down folks.

Wait until it hits the showroom. Had this car been on the showroom, then heck yes, I would have raised a fit myself. Especially if it was the one I ordered.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

What is so intimate about it is that generally, a bunch of car fanatics don't have an opportunity to take pictures of a car right after it comes off the line. Am I happy with the fit? Of course not. But we will soon find out (from pictures taken of Ricks car at one of his dealerships) if we would ever have known about this issue if we hadn't been there to take pictures of it.

At any rate, you know as well as I do (because we were told by the same guy at the same time) that a car that rolls off the assembly line is not 'done' , it still has to be run through tests and inspected. 80Zedder just said that quality control did not check the car.

Yes it has, and there is more being done to ensure quality on the Camaro than on the Impala, which is highly regarded by JD Power for its build quality.

Davin - this post is not fare. You know I cannot respond to it without upsetting a lot of people. You know you made a few incorrect statements above.

[SSOOCH]

fbodfather can talk about my gap anytime!!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

OK - I don't have the time to read thru this thread......I have other stuff that needs to be done..................

SOOOOOOOOOOO -- CALM DOWN!!!!!


NOW!!!!

It came off the line -- he drove it off the line -- it did NOT GO THRU INSPECTION BEFORE HE DROVE IT OFF THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!

HE DROVE IT OFF THE LINE -- -- he THEN drove it out to our enthusiasts -- drove it BACK INTO THE PLANT -- and it will go thru inspection!

I do not know if the door was open or closed - but I can tell you that we look for things like this in final inspection and they are corrected.

CALM DOWN!!!!

(....sorry - -but I keep getting emails all day long with the latest 'panic du jour' -- and I don't have the time to run over here every two hours.....)

CALM DOWN!!!

Let's go back to when SOMEONE leaked the first picture of a car without cammo -- remember the infamous white car?????........

THE WORLD WAS COMING TO AN END AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!! We were accused of everything including driving Teddy's car at Chappaquiddick and of course taking out Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- and look at how you love the way the car turned out! How many people had strokes over a bad picture?????

I could list at least 6 dozen 'panics du jour' -- and EVERY ONE OF THEM was for naught............

CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen and good night ...
Thanks Fbodfather.
Unfortunately, if things go as they have in the past some on here will still not believe you....
I still have FAITH!

[DDustiNN]

Originally Posted by GLBL WMR

After reading the entire thread I find it absolutely amusing that everybody has their panties in a bunch over one picture.

-You don't know whether or not the car went through final QC before the picture was taken.

-The angle of the picture is possibly making it look worse than it really is.

-The contrast of the orange accent against the dark trim could possibly be making it look worse than it is.

-Several members have attested that this is not an issue on other early VINs that they have seen.

Trust me, I also believe that the interior is the worse part about the car by far, and I wouldn't be pleased if my car showed up like this. However, more false assumptions are made on this board that run rampant and turn into 20 page b*tch-fests than any of the other boards dedicated to the car, and it makes us all look like a bunch of fanboy 4 year olds.

You know-it-alls need to stop pretending that your relatively limited knowledge and half-assed assumptions regarding the car bridge the gap to reality, because it doesn't, and it just makes you look stupid.

Wait until you see an actual production model in person and then continue to cry about it and if your fears hold water and talk yourself into buying something else.

Originally Posted by Number 3

I hesitate to post as someone will just use it as fuel for a non-fire or use it to keep a non-fire burning.

First, understand that you are picking on the hardest part of the interior to get right.

Second, this car WAS NOT SHIPPED. I wasn't there, but I doubt very much Rick got in his car and drove it home. There are additional hurdles the Camaro must pass before one single car gets shipped.

Third, with all of the cameras and people hovering around the car, I am pretty sure that they avoided any chance to take the car off line to repair this, which your cars would be.

Fourth, none of the CTF cars have been built with the acrylic panels on the door and IP. So in order to get that right you are probably judging by the very first production car with ABL on the IP and Door Trim.

And last, this is another case of you guys have been allowed to know more than any other car and it's launch. So now you are taking that intimate knowledge and doing this??????????????? Come on now. Just stop.

And yes I agree FROM THE PICTURES this is probably out of specification.

So if you get your car and you don't like it - POST AWAY. But not this car, it was way out of process to have the owner walk the line with 100 fans and their cameras.

Originally Posted by 80Zedder

seems to point to a supplier issue. They are very aware of the problem. Rick's car was not passed through the final QC, and even if it was, due to time and obligations, it was released anyways, as replacement panels may not have been on hand "iom" to fix the problem.

Belive me, when you get your vehicles, there should be no issues with the panels misaligning. IF by a slight chance there is, the dealer should correct it before you even see your new car.

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

As I recall Fbodfather (and my contact from GM on the Sky Forum) told us in the production has started thread that after the first 400 or so are built they will all be gone over with a fine tooth comb to discover any production concerns. BEFORE they will be released for full production. This is the way it is done on the start of all new GM cars. It is exactly what they did with the first 400, 2007 Skys that were built... Believe me this will NOT go unnoticed by the GM brass and engineers. You that are complaining are Jumping the Gun on this one.. Calm down and wait till we start seeing cars that ARE arriving at the dealerships...
Then feel free to blast away.....

Originally Posted by DGthe3

What is so intimate about it is that generally, a bunch of car fanatics don't have an opportunity to take pictures of a car right after it comes off the line. Am I happy with the fit? Of course not. But we will soon find out (from pictures taken of Ricks car at one of his dealerships) if we would ever have known about this issue if we hadn't been there to take pictures of it.

At any rate, you know as well as I do (because we were told by the same guy at the same time) that a car that rolls off the assembly line is not 'done' , it still has to be run through tests and inspected. 80Zedder just said that quality control did not check the car.

Yes it has, and there is more being done to ensure quality on the Camaro than on the Impala, which is highly regarded by JD Power for its build quality.

Originally Posted by fbodfather

OK - I don't have the time to read thru this thread......I have other stuff that needs to be done..................

SOOOOOOOOOOO -- CALM DOWN!!!!!


NOW!!!!

It came off the line -- he drove it off the line -- it did NOT GO THRU INSPECTION BEFORE HE DROVE IT OFF THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!

HE DROVE IT OFF THE LINE -- -- he THEN drove it out to our enthusiasts -- drove it BACK INTO THE PLANT -- and it will go thru inspection!

I do not know if the door was open or closed - but I can tell you that we look for things like this in final inspection and they are corrected.

CALM DOWN!!!!

(....sorry - -but I keep getting emails all day long with the latest 'panic du jour' -- and I don't have the time to run over here every two hours.....)

CALM DOWN!!!

Let's go back to when SOMEONE leaked the first picture of a car without cammo -- remember the infamous white car?????........

THE WORLD WAS COMING TO AN END AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!! We were accused of everything including driving Teddy's car at Chappaquiddick and of course taking out Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- and look at how you love the way the car turned out! How many people had strokes over a bad picture?????

I could list at least 6 dozen 'panics du jour' -- and EVERY ONE OF THEM was for naught............

CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are a few of the best posts of this thread. It seemed that ArcAngel's are among the worst. I understand that you are upset about these pictures, but damn man... relax. Take a breath. Calm down. You've been sitting on this thread for hours, simply doing nothing except complaining when someone doesn't agree with you. I agree that those pics are horrible, but I also agree that this car was built under a lot of pressure (fans, cameras, etc) and it never got sent back around for full testing and any pre-shipping fixes that needed to be done. But you just absolutely refuse to accept this as a possibily for some reason... it's as if you just ignore them completely.

And I do agree that this kind of stuff happens way too much on this forum. Some little tiny thing gets blown way out of proportion, and all the sudden everyone acts like it's the end of the world. Well guess what? It's not.

Informative posts > assumption posts.

The end.

EDIT: there you have it... from fbodfather himself... RELAX!!!

[ArcAngel]

You know whats not fair is the name calling I am getting for discussing an issue important to alot of us. I have gotten attacked for having a differing opinion, I needed to defend myself sorry

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

You know whats not fair is the name calling I am getting for discussing an issue important to alot of us

Arcangel,

I'm on your side on this, thanks for your support in this forum and your concern. The mods should be tougher on those calling you names in my opinion who are trying to derail this thread..

[ArcAngel]

Thank you supermans thank you!