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highstik5 · 07-20-2011, 12:45 PM

WOW Matt, thanks! The black is going to look great with the white car. I don't know how many more times I can say that "I can't wait to pick her up!"

Sales @ ECS · 07-21-2011, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HufferSS

Why I ask is that everyone with a PD raves about the torque curve but it would be nice to be able to compare, at least to a point, what they both look like in the bottom end.

I was going with a Whipple but the more I think about it....I am leaning towards Centri.

Sorry I missed this post before.. I have a comparison here:

2010 Camaro SS - 6-Speed Manual

ECS Supercharger Kit - 9PSI (Standard boost pulley with restrictor plate for non-methanol)
- Factory Exhaust Manifolds w/ Resonator Delete
- 160* Tstat (Included with ECS Kit)
- NGK TR6 Plugs (Included with ECS Kit)

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2010 Camaro SS - 6-Speed Manual

Magnacharger TVS 2300 - 8PSI (One size lower on boost pulley)
- Factory Exhaust Manifolds w/ SLP LM II
- 160* TStat
- NGK TR6 Plugs

M6HuggerSS · 07-24-2011, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by East Coast Supercharging

thanks for sharing your results...
i gotta be honest here... that is one of the ugliest kits on the market!
but HOLY HELL those numbers are impressive!

ill second the question, how do the IAT's compare with the PD blowers?

Sales @ ECS · 07-25-2011, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M6HuggerSS

thanks for sharing your results...
i gotta be honest here... that is one of the ugliest kits on the market!
but HOLY HELL those numbers are impressive!

ill second the question, how do the IAT's compare with the PD blowers?

Well thanks for the comments! LOL.. To each his own I guess. Have you checked out our polished kits?

IAT's run a decent amount cooler than with the PD blowers. Without methanol the PD blowers in our heat/humidity will sky to 180-200* without an issue. I run no methanol with my particular centri kit & I have not seen above 125-135* and that is with ambient in the 99-102* range the last few days!

jasycz28 · 07-25-2011, 10:52 AM

Have you seen any real gains going with the 2" headers rather than the 1 7/8"? At what point do you think the 2" becomes necessary?

Sales @ ECS · 07-25-2011, 12:41 PM

jasy: Unfortunately I do not have any back to back comparisons here.. ARH asked me to specifically use the 2" LTs on my application with their full exhaust. However, considerations for the future were taken into account when ordering the headers (Bigger motor).

I honestly think either set would work out fine. Most of the Maro's we've done have the 1 7/8"

UNRIVALED SS · 07-27-2011, 11:01 PM

You all are doing awesome work!! I didn`t think the kit looked that bad LOL !! I`ll see you in the fall ....

Sales @ ECS · 07-29-2011, 07:40 AM

UNRIVALED: Thanks ! ... Tommy here has brought the car to a few local car shows of recent. Most people that come up think the supercharger is factory GM. I do prefer the matte black brackets myself as it does give that "should have been here from factory" look.

Thanks we'll see you soon.

Patrick G · 08-02-2011, 02:07 PM

Cool combo Matt. Have you been able to log the IAT readings with the hood closed going WOT down the track (or highway)? I'm curious to see if the filter placement just above the headers is much of an issue. Open hood not as big a deal, but wondering about real world IATs. Thanks!

Sales @ ECS · 08-03-2011, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick G

Cool combo Matt. Have you been able to log the IAT readings with the hood closed going WOT down the track (or highway)? I'm curious to see if the filter placement just above the headers is much of an issue. Open hood not as big a deal, but wondering about real world IATs. Thanks!

Patrick: I went out last night and took a log for you. Of course overnight my laptop died & I did not save the scan file before hand. I'll get you a log after work today.

However, I can give you some results for now at least.. It was 79* yesterday evening. I had the car sitting at idle for 10+ minutes because of a backed up drive thru line at the BK! The IAT's rose while idling into the 96-98* range. At normal cruise I was in the 86-88* range. During a hard 2nd-3rd-4th pull (Shifting ~6500), the highest IAT's I saw were 108*, which came back down to the 88-90* range within seconds of backing off the throttle. When just doing a throttle pull (3500RPM-6500RPM in third gear) I saw the highest 100* & once again came back down almost immediately after letting off

So overall, the IAT's are great considering the temperature and no use of methanol. Coupled with the use of our ECS intercooler, I see no IAT issues at all with this air filter location.

Stay tuned I'll get you the log.

Hendrix-Engineering · 08-03-2011, 02:42 PM

Ill get a set of axles on stand by for you lol!!

ducatisl · 08-03-2011, 02:46 PM

Matt, will that oil cooler adapter plate you guys sell for 'vettes work on our Camaros?

Patrick G · 08-03-2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt @ ECS

Patrick: I went out last night and took a log for you. Of course overnight my laptop died & I did not save the scan file before hand. I'll get you a log after work today.

However, I can give you some results for now at least.. It was 79* yesterday evening. I had the car sitting at idle for 10+ minutes because of a backed up drive thru line at the BK! The IAT's rose while idling into the 96-98* range. At normal cruise I was in the 86-88* range. During a hard 2nd-3rd-4th pull (Shifting ~6500), the highest IAT's I saw were 108*, which came back down to the 88-90* range within seconds of backing off the throttle. When just doing a throttle pull (3500RPM-6500RPM in third gear) I saw the highest 100* & once again came back down almost immediately after letting off

So overall, the IAT's are great considering the temperature and no use of methanol. Coupled with the use of our ECS intercooler, I see no IAT issues at all with this air filter location.

Stay tuned I'll get you the log.

Thanks for doing that. This info is very helpful as other shops running these blowers have been less than forthcoming about the IAT question. I am encouraged by your logs about running this type of blower arrangement. Again, thank you.

Sales @ ECS · 08-03-2011, 05:39 PM

Patrick: It's pouring down here.. Looks like logs will have to wait till she comes out tomorrow.. I'll definitely keep you in the loop. I don't mind giving out the data on our systems of course. We tried a few different setups with plastic & fabricated aluminum ducts and this setup just works the best & is simple. Once you start bending ducts around 150+ degrees you start losing flow & of course boost... I have seen on some of these air ducts a loss of 2+ lbs at times even at low boost!

ducati: Our normal ECS Oil Cooler block is fine for the Camaros (As is any LSx).. You'll be removing the factory oil stabilizer of course?

07-25-2011, 10:52 AM	#19
jasycz28 J.Sick Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 965	Have you seen any real gains going with the 2" headers rather than the 1 7/8"? At what point do you think the 2" becomes necessary? __________________ "J.Sick" 2010 Camaro 2SS

08-02-2011, 02:07 PM	#23
Patrick G Drives: 2009 Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Victoria, TX Posts: 52	Cool combo Matt. Have you been able to log the IAT readings with the hood closed going WOT down the track (or highway)? I'm curious to see if the filter placement just above the headers is much of an issue. Open hood not as big a deal, but wondering about real world IATs. Thanks! __________________ 2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 Forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, ECS NOVI 1500 blower, 222/242 .629/.604 121LSA EPS cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, NPP exhaust, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, no meth, w/stock street manners. 2014 GMC Yukon XL Denali, Air Raid MIT, tuned. 2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph Texas Mile 2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 Texas Mile LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7 Custom Camshaft Specialist

08-03-2011, 02:42 PM	#25
Hendrix-Engineering Account Suspended Drives: First 9 inch-12 bolt IRS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nc Posts: 1,835	GREAT work! Ill get a set of axles on stand by for you lol!!

08-03-2011, 02:46 PM	#26
ducatisl Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 2SS 6m Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fort Walton Beach...surrounded by da** pickup trucks I can't see around! Posts: 692 View My Garage	Matt, will that oil cooler adapter plate you guys sell for 'vettes work on our Camaros? __________________ Procharged F1A-94 on a 416 LSA block, Callies/Manley/Scat/Melling/Cloyes/ARP/Ferrea/Landspeed/Hi-Ram/FIC/Tick/Alky/ Strange/QA1/DSS/BMR/RPS/Tilton/GZM/Fore/AEM/ATi/JGS etc., built/tuned by me and Innovative Street Technologies 'Mo's Seemingly Endless Build Thread

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07-20-2011, 12:45 PM	#15
highstik5 Drives: Summit White SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: PA Posts: 77	WOW Matt, thanks! The black is going to look great with the white car. I don't know how many more times I can say that "I can't wait to pick her up!"

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Sales @ ECS Drives: 2011 CG 2SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast Supercharging 609 752 0321 Posts: 708	jasy: Unfortunately I do not have any back to back comparisons here.. ARH asked me to specifically use the 2" LTs on my application with their full exhaust. However, considerations for the future were taken into account when ordering the headers (Bigger motor). I honestly think either set would work out fine. Most of the Maro's we've done have the 1 7/8"

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UNRIVALED SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: El Paso Posts: 705 View My Garage	You all are doing awesome work!! I didn`t think the kit looked that bad LOL !! I`ll see you in the fall ....

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Sales @ ECS Drives: 2011 CG 2SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast Supercharging 609 752 0321 Posts: 708	UNRIVALED: Thanks ! ... Tommy here has brought the car to a few local car shows of recent. Most people that come up think the supercharger is factory GM. I do prefer the matte black brackets myself as it does give that "should have been here from factory" look. Thanks we'll see you soon.

08-03-2011, 05:39 PM	#28
Sales @ ECS Drives: 2011 CG 2SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast Supercharging 609 752 0321 Posts: 708	Patrick: It's pouring down here.. Looks like logs will have to wait till she comes out tomorrow.. I'll definitely keep you in the loop. I don't mind giving out the data on our systems of course. We tried a few different setups with plastic & fabricated aluminum ducts and this setup just works the best & is simple. Once you start bending ducts around 150+ degrees you start losing flow & of course boost... I have seen on some of these air ducts a loss of 2+ lbs at times even at low boost! ducati: Our normal ECS Oil Cooler block is fine for the Camaros (As is any LSx).. You'll be removing the factory oil stabilizer of course?