Zaino or Adams

[usranger80]

Ok, so it will probably be Adams, after closer inspection of my car (its rally yellow and hard to pick out swirls if not in the proper light and proper angle) I noticed that it does indeed have swirls in the paint, although I have only used the two bucket method since I bought it, probably "dealer installed". However, I have another question, for those of you, if any, who have the flat matte stripes how do you go about with the Porter Cable around those, do you tape them off or what is your SOP for that, I know I could be REALLY careful but there has got to be a more efficient way to go about this.

[Adam's Polishes]

Tape them off to be safe, that will allow you to work right up to them without fear of doing damage. Takes a little more time in the beginning, but very much worth the effort when you consider what a pain in the butt messed up stripes are.

[Yellow Camaro]

Originally Posted by usranger80

But is the price of Adams really worth it....600-1200 for everything you need to do a complete detail, I am anxious to try it but to spend that much money it better blow me away.

That's what I'm wondering too....a couple of the things it's almost comical. $25 for 16 oz of tire dressing? After reading the forums I bought the stuff anyway. It's sort of like when your girlfriend wants to go to some trendy nightclub, and you know you'd have more fun at the place with no cover and $3 beers, but you can't let her feel like she doesn't deserve it.

[testmule]

Originally Posted by Yellow Camaro

That's what I'm wondering too....a couple of the things it's almost comical. $25 for 16 oz of tire dressing? After reading the forums I bought the stuff anyway. It's sort of like when your girlfriend wants to go to some trendy nightclub, and you know you'd have more fun at the place with no cover and $3 beers, but you can't let her feel like she doesn't deserve it.

Adams is a good product but how the company manages to sell their product at exhorbitant rates is beyond me when you can get equivalent polishes and waxes that are readily available for much less.

In this economy I think Adams and Zaino will price themselves out of business.

[Stex]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Bingo. If you want and use your car as a show car.. Adams is great. If you use it as a DD then Zaino has its advantages. But application is 12 hard hours so be ready for it.

What are you doing for 12 hrs? From Zanio after the talk about swirl correction:

A unique ability for Zaino sealants is that layering and repetitive applications yields incredible results. While the majority of our customers apply only one or two layers, there are some enthusiastic customers that apply dozens and dozens of layers. To be fair, our product performance fuels a very passionate customer experience, and quite a few customers simply can’t get enough. Using a single or every product in our system, or layering one or one hundred applications is a CHOICE, not a requirement. It’s up to YOU. It simply does not take hours of work and lots of steps to see huge benefits from Zaino products.


I can wash, clay, wash and apply 1,2 or 3 coats of Z-2 or Z-5 with a overcoat of Z-2 in three hrs. One coat of Z-2 or Z-5 is all you need, more coats just for better/deeper look. The acel allows you to reapply next coat as soon as other is removed. Zanio does not require multiple coats to protect the paint.

For wax/sealing I prefer Zanio. For leather care Zanio. For correction, tires, wheels, brushes and towels..Adams.. I have used both Zanio and Adams so I choose what I think is best for/to me.

[Mark's SS]

Originally Posted by Stex

What are you doing for 12 hrs? From Zanio after the talk about swirl correction:

A unique ability for Zaino sealants is that layering and repetitive applications yields incredible results. While the majority of our customers apply only one or two layers, there are some enthusiastic customers that apply dozens and dozens of layers. To be fair, our product performance fuels a very passionate customer experience, and quite a few customers simply can’t get enough. Using a single or every product in our system, or layering one or one hundred applications is a CHOICE, not a requirement. It’s up to YOU. It simply does not take hours of work and lots of steps to see huge benefits from Zaino products.


I can wash, clay, wash and apply 1,2 or 3 coats of Z-2 or Z-5 with a overcoat of Z-2 in three hrs. One coat of Z-2 or Z-5 is all you need, more coats just for better/deeper look. The acel allows you to reapply next coat as soon as other is removed. Zanio does not require multiple coats to protect the paint.

For wax/sealing I prefer Zanio. For leather care Zanio. For correction, tires, wheels, brushes and towels..Adams.. I have used both Zanio and Adams so I choose what I think is best for/to me.

I don't understand why some think it takes more time to use Zaino than other products. It is the same process. Apply, let dry, buff off.

[velociSSimo]

Originally Posted by testmule

Adams is a good product but how the company manages to sell their product at exhorbitant rates is beyond me when you can get equivalent polishes and waxes that are readily available for much less.

In this economy I think Adams and Zaino will price themselves out of business.

Just like you could have bought a $2500 TATA (India's new car line). It is a vehicle that does the same thing as a Camaro... gets you from point A to B.

But with the Camaro you get a vehicle from an American Company, great looks, has tons of standard features, and gets you from point A to B very quick.

So testmule, why did you decide to pay more than you had to for your car? Same reason us who use Adam's or Zaino decide to pay more for a superior product.

[IrocJack]

I bought a jar of Zaino before I knew about Adam's. I have waxed the car one time, it's not a DD. I got caught in a rain storm and the water just ran off the car, when I got home and it dried. You would have never known it was wet to begin with.
When I wash the car now, it's wild to see how fast the water runs off the car.
You also need to keep it refrigerated as stated on the jar. I like it and will continue to use it along with my Adams car wash.

[testmule]

Originally Posted by jmat

Just like you could have bought a $2500 TATA (India's new car line). It is a vehicle that does the same thing as a Camaro... gets you from point A to B.

But with the Camaro you get a vehicle from an American Company, great looks, has tons of standard features, and gets you from point A to B very quick.

So testmule, why did you decide to pay more than you had to for your car? Same reason us who use Adam's or Zaino decide to pay more for a superior product.

Sorry, but comparing a Camaro to a cheap car from India is not the same as comparing a wax or polish that gives me the same results (appearance and longevity) as an overpriced Adams or Zaino.

Now if the $2,500 car from India looks comparable to the Camaro and gives me the same results then sign me up!

I just don't buy the hype.

[Iomcamaro]

Originally Posted by testmule

Sorry, but comparing a Camaro to a cheap car from India is not the same as comparing a wax or polish that gives me the same results (appearance and longevity) as an overpriced Adams or Zaino.

Now if the $2,500 car from India looks comparable to the Camaro and gives me the same results then sign me up!

I just don't buy the hype.

They're more overpriced because they're marketed towards more show cars than anything. And novices - people that haven't really used anything but OTC products over the years. Are they quality products? Sure they are and they're definately better than most OTC stuff, but there are better cheaper products out there. Just like what I suggested in my post earlier in this thread. People on this forum look at Adam's or Zaino like they're detailing products that would bring the world to an end if they weren't around. I have nothing against either company. Just stating the way that I feel.

[Moni]

It's all about how well you want to protect your paint and how good you want your car to look. You have to put some time and money into it. Adams is worth every dollar to me. My car is black and it's my daily driver rain or shine and people think it is a garage kept car.

[JHL88]

Originally Posted by testmule

I use Mothers and Meguiars at half the cost of Adam's, available at stores, and same results. It works well with the Porter Cable 7424xp. No more overpriced and overhyped polishes and waxes for me.

just curious, what line of meguiars products do you use? OTC stuff or their mirror glaze?

[Iomcamaro]

Originally Posted by JHL88

just curious, what line of meguiars products do you use? OTC stuff or their mirror glaze?

I will gladly say that I use some of Meguiar's OTC products and I can achieve close to the same results as Adam's for a fraction of the cost. Yes I also have some Mirror Glaze and Detailer's line but you cannot go wrong with the Ultimate line when it comes to the polishes. Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish have amazing results for OTC. They're comparable to M105/M205. Now as for the other Ultimate line, there is definately better products out there. But to each their own.
Grab you a Porter Cable, some Uber pads, and the Ultimate Compound/ Polish combo and you're good to go. They should be able to take out any swirls that are in your new paint.

[OBSSEST]

Half the stuff I buy is from Adams, but I'm always looking for a deal with alternative products.

For me, Meguiar's Ultimate Compound (Over the Counter) and M205 polish (online or OTC at auto parts stores) are equivalent polish products at half the price. I also buy 6 packs of Lake Country pads from autogeek.com rather than Adams. Meguiars pads have separated the velcro on me and I've been reading the same about some Adams pads, but the LC pads haven't failed me yet and the price is right.

Detail Spray, Waterless Wash, wash pad, and Towels all come from Adams because they have proven to be the best bang for the buck. I've tried every "pro" line towel out there and Adams towels can't be beat for scratch and lint free performance. There are some items that paying twice the money for the over the counter equivalent is well worth it. If you buy Adams liquids by the gallon your price per ounce becomes about half what you'd pay at Walmart for some other brand. It seems steep to pay $40 per gallon of detail spray but it works down to $5.00 per bottle vs. $8 - $10 per bottle at Walmart for Meguiars or whatever brand.

I've wasted alot of money on trying other products lines. Meguiars and Adams are both excellent retailers and have everything you could want in every price range.