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nascarnate326 · 07-15-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tampa Tuning

Just don't buy knock offs on eBay and expect to make power

hahaha I did both.

*CamaroSpike23* · 07-15-2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SSRSLY

We just installed the TSP LT 1 7/8" headers. They were almost TOO easy to put in. I think we had it knocked out in around 1.5 hours.

Good luck installing 4th gen headers in 1.5 hours.

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Originally Posted by xXSilencerXx

From what I have seen on message boards, Kooks and American Racing fit very well.

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Originally Posted by full of days

my Dynatech SuperMaXX longtubes fit amazingly well. The finish is top notch.

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Originally Posted by full of days

Dynatechs drop right in from underneath the car too... Install is clean. No issues whatsoever with mine at 14K miles. Power and sound with the MBRP is thunderous as well.

You guys do realize that this is the 4th gen section and that he's asking about LT's for an LS1 right?

to the OP, Check out Hooker Super Comp LT's. they have a slip-fit joint on the #1 primary that eliminates the need to have to disconnect the steering rod to slip it between the primary tubes.

Also, if you are planning on installing LT's, get a new set of polyurethane engine mounts and change those out while the exhaust is off the car. it will help realign the engine in the engine bay and raise it a hair or two which will allow for easier installation of the new headers.

CC Performance · 07-15-2011, 01:21 PM

I've run 3 different sets of premium headers on my 4th gen... ARH is the best fitment and the only choice for me... I run 2" primaries right now....

savage99ss · 08-09-2011, 11:00 AM

Got great fit and build quality out of the slp's. The only downside is they hang low and mate that with the 3 inch y-pipe......yikes, avoid speed bumps. I def had to adjust driving style, unless you prefer the scrapes.

xXSilencerXx · 08-09-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

You guys do realize that this is the 4th gen section and that he's asking about LT's for an LS1 right?

to the OP, Check out Hooker Super Comp LT's. they have a slip-fit joint on the #1 primary that eliminates the need to have to disconnect the steering rod to slip it between the primary tubes.

Also, if you are planning on installing LT's, get a new set of polyurethane engine mounts and change those out while the exhaust is off the car. it will help realign the engine in the engine bay and raise it a hair or two which will allow for easier installation of the new headers.

You do realize that ARH hand Kooks makes LT's for the LS1 4th gen right?

Also you don't need to remove the steering shaft to install the ARH headers on these cars.

I don't know that any headers for these cars has the steering shaft running through the headers to begin with.

*CamaroSpike23* · 08-09-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xXSilencerXx

You do realize that ARH hand Kooks makes LT's for the LS1 4th gen right?

Also you don't need to remove the steering shaft to install the ARH headers on these cars.

I don't know that any headers for these cars has the steering shaft running through the headers to begin with.

yes and you do realize that the posts I quoted were talking about 5th gen headers.

it happens all the time. people click "new posts" and see someone asking about mods and dont pay attention to which section they are in.

xXSilencerXx · 08-11-2011, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

yes and you do realize that the posts I quoted were talking about 5th gen headers.

it happens all the time. people click "new posts" and see someone asking about mods and dont pay attention to which section they are in.

Mine wasn't referring to 5th gens

It must've gotten lumped in there with the others or something.

Either way, just installed ARH headers on friends car yesterday. Great quality and fit. Now to do my car.

SSNIGHTMARE · 08-11-2011, 09:36 AM

ARH, you get what u pay for

*radz28* · 08-11-2011, 11:56 AM

I've run two sets of QTPs on my car ('02 LS1) and installed a set on my brother's '02. I started with MAC mids', and went with the standard QTPs later with their cat'd Y-pipe. Later, I moved into their newer HVMCs. I picked up more than 10 RWHP with just the HVMCs. However, the Y-pipe, though it was probably the best flowing Y-pipe at the time because of it's tube size and true, Flowmaster merge collector, was a real bugger for ground clearance. The driver's side cat' hung really low. Eventually, I switched to different cats', and moved them both right off the collectors and after I trimmed a little of the floor pan brace above the driver's side cat', ground clearance was A LOT better.

The quality of the materials of the all three QTPs were EXCELLENT. The fitment of my first set of standard collector QTPs were EXCELLENT as well as the quality of the workmanship. That kinda' changed with my brother's HVMCs and mine. He had a really bad collector that wasn't welded completely around the merge spike, and mine wasn't much better. Otherwise, they were very good. Were it not for the complicated merge collectors, I'd give those QTPs the highest marks, but I can't.

If you're working on a 4th Gen, you can go wrong with Kooks or ARH. ARH has standard HVMC collectors and I believe Kooks has a standard collector they say is HVMC, but really isn't, IMO. At the time, they had optional TRUE HVMC collectors, which I would say to go for. I like ARH's Y-pipe a little better because I always though Kook's merge wasn't that clean, but both have great quality, ground clearance, and great materials. Dynatechs were good, but I never liked their small Y-pipes, but clearance and quality were certainly on par with the others.

*CamaroSpike23* · 08-11-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SSNIGHTMARE

ARH, you get what u pay for

go ask PQ about that statement...lol

SSNIGHTMARE · 08-12-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

go ask PQ about that statement...lol

I'm sticking with my original statement, since they are on all my cars (4 in all). They also have had great customer service.

*CamaroSpike23* · 08-12-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SSNIGHTMARE

I'm sticking with my original statement, since they are on all my cars (4 in all). They also have had great customer service.

Oh, I'm not doubting ARH's product at all. Just speaking in a general sense of things.

Zabo · 08-12-2011, 08:50 PM

IMO, a tie between American Racing (ARH) and Kooks LT headers. Both are designed with quality and longevity in mind. You slap a pair of pacesetters on and sure you got a bargain..

However: Congratulations, you just bought dollar store wrenches as opposed to Snap-On wrenches in the world of headers.

The pretty penny is for a reason; design, engineering, testing, retesting, quality control..

Just had this discussion at a local cruise in last weekend and the end result between 20 bickering LS/LT fanboys was an Kooks/ARH tie.

*CamaroSpike23* · 08-13-2011, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zabo

IMO, a tie between American Racing (ARH) and Kooks LT headers. Both are designed with quality and longevity in mind. You slap a pair of pacesetters on and sure you got a bargain..

However: Congratulations, you just bought dollar store wrenches as opposed to Snap-On wrenches in the world of headers.

The pretty penny is for a reason; design, engineering, testing, retesting, quality control..

Just had this discussion at a local cruise in last weekend and the end result between 20 bickering LS/LT fanboys was an Kooks/ARH tie.

My headers are for making power... not looking pretty.

08-09-2011, 11:00 AM	#18
savage99ss Im the boss Drives: 1999 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 157 View My Garage	Got great fit and build quality out of the slp's. The only downside is they hang low and mate that with the 3 inch y-pipe......yikes, avoid speed bumps. I def had to adjust driving style, unless you prefer the scrapes. __________________ Camaro SS #0785 - 1 of 280 SS's that were pewter, auto, and T-Top - SLP Headers, LM1,Y-pipe, high flow cats, SLP Lid

08-11-2011, 09:36 AM	#22
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08-11-2011, 11:56 AM	#23
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,809 View My Garage	I've run two sets of QTPs on my car ('02 LS1) and installed a set on my brother's '02. I started with MAC mids', and went with the standard QTPs later with their cat'd Y-pipe. Later, I moved into their newer HVMCs. I picked up more than 10 RWHP with just the HVMCs. However, the Y-pipe, though it was probably the best flowing Y-pipe at the time because of it's tube size and true, Flowmaster merge collector, was a real bugger for ground clearance. The driver's side cat' hung really low. Eventually, I switched to different cats', and moved them both right off the collectors and after I trimmed a little of the floor pan brace above the driver's side cat', ground clearance was A LOT better. The quality of the materials of the all three QTPs were EXCELLENT. The fitment of my first set of standard collector QTPs were EXCELLENT as well as the quality of the workmanship. That kinda' changed with my brother's HVMCs and mine. He had a really bad collector that wasn't welded completely around the merge spike, and mine wasn't much better. Otherwise, they were very good. Were it not for the complicated merge collectors, I'd give those QTPs the highest marks, but I can't. If you're working on a 4th Gen, you can go wrong with Kooks or ARH. ARH has standard HVMC collectors and I believe Kooks has a standard collector they say is HVMC, but really isn't, IMO. At the time, they had optional TRUE HVMC collectors, which I would say to go for. I like ARH's Y-pipe a little better because I always though Kook's merge wasn't that clean, but both have great quality, ground clearance, and great materials. Dynatechs were good, but I never liked their small Y-pipes, but clearance and quality were certainly on par with the others. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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