Had the pleasure of driving a 5.0...

[B-Rex]

i heard the 5.0 was close to an M3. I drove the 5.0, but have never driven a M3 so I personaly could not say yes or no on the subject. I'm not impressed by "way ahead" just my opinion.

[oldfriend]

Nice , but we already knew that our CAMAROS are better than ,,,,,g

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by builder11150

IRS does nothing except on bumpy roads. Not only is it weaker, but it is also more expensive. The Mustang does handle better, and several car magazines back it up. IRS isn't as great as everyone thinks it is.

Also, I think your underestimating the handling of the thirdgens. I don't have a problem taking a turn at 50. The 3rd gens have better handling than the 4ths. 4th gens just have a more comfortable ride. I'd even go as far as to say mine would handle better than the current SS with some simple mods.

I wonder why Mustang is going to IRS in 2015. It kinda looks like a bunch of high paid Ford auto engineers don't agree with you. All the magazines say the Mustang bump steers considerably, so maybe on a smooth road the Mustang could compete well with IRS cars, but in real world real roads, the IRS is much better. There has to be some reason why only Ford in the performance world has stuck with a solid axle rear end and they don't win many road races. I think they invented the Ford rear suspension in about 35 BC by the Romans and their charriots...lol

[builder11150]

The point I was trying to make was that even with the SRA, the Mustang handles better. It just seems that a lot of people on here feel that just because they have IRS, they out handle every other car on the road.

That doesn't mean that a SRA will always handle better than an IRS, or vice versa, the SRA just handles better in this comparison between the current Mustang and Camaro.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by builder11150

The point I was trying to make was that even with the SRA, the Mustang handles better. It just seems that a lot of people on here feel that just because they have IRS, they out handle every other car on the road.

That doesn't mean that a SRA will always handle better than an IRS, or vice versa, the SRA just handles better in this comparison between the current Mustang and Camaro.

I feel that's up to opinion and personal preference. I really don't think the Mustang's performance is entirely based on it's SRA setup but the entire car's weight, which is very close to the M3's. Two different cars, both have nearly identical power, what do you expect? The weight is the biggest advantage the 5.0 has against an SS, it's damn sure not power, fore if they both weighed the same or something very close, prepare to see tail-lights every-time. Honestly, how do you think a LS3 would do against an M3 if they both weighed the same, 3704 lbs, or at least 50 pounds apart?

[Wesman]

Originally Posted by B-Rex

Top end: Camaro > Mustang. I judged it from a downshift at about 65 mph. The mustang felt a little flat and seemed to "float" compared to the SS.

The 5.0 actually has awesome top end power...you're just spoiled by the LS3, so you didn't notice it as much

One thing I noticed when I drove a 5.0 was that the low end grunt just wasn't there. Punching it at 2,000-4,000RPM just didn't give me the desired wave of torque that I've come to expect from the LSx family, but when you wind it out the power comes on strong.

[MY2012RS]

I just have one thing to say...The Camaro blows away the Mustang and Challanger in the looks dept..I could really care less if either one of those cars flies by me at a redlight..They still won't look cooler then a Camaro..IMHO..That is all

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Which would imply, in it's current condition, Ford knows it's "uncomfortable". I'll admit the 5.0 doesn't need IRS to compete with the Camaro or the Challenger especially, but it does need something to improve it's ride quality. To me, the Camaro and the Challenger both have great smooth rides with nothing really lacking in performance. All three of these cars are very close performance wise, neither one is in an entirely different league than the other, so I think we should all just agree whatever car we choose as the overall "better" is up to personal preference. +/-'s.....

My statement doesn't imply that at all. That's like saying, "GM switched to forced induction for power(zr1)" implies that GM knows the z06 is slow. Comfort is also a matter of opinion and many people buying these types of car like a firmer, bumpier feel.

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by builder11150

The point I was trying to make was that even with the SRA, the Mustang handles better. It just seems that a lot of people on here feel that just because they have IRS, they out handle every other car on the road.

That doesn't mean that a SRA will always handle better than an IRS, or vice versa, the SRA just handles better in this comparison between the current Mustang and Camaro.

There are many components to handling. Just because the Mustang is faster around a track doesnt mean it handles better, its just lighter. If Camaro weighed the same it would beat the Mustang around the track because of the better suspension.

The reason the Camaro feels like it handles better is because it does, its just heavier.

[Unreal]

Strange. We test drove a Camaro SS vs a Mustang GT and we thought just about the opposite on every detail. Mustang was noticeably quicker. Brakes were better, rode nicer, handled better. The mustang seemed to have power everywhere while the camaro didn't come alive until ~3000rpm.

Strange. We landed up ordered a 2012 GT that should be here next week.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

There are many components to handling. Just because the Mustang is faster around a track doesnt mean it handles better, its just lighter. If Camaro weighed the same it would beat the Mustang around the track because of the better suspension.

The reason the Camaro feels like it handles better is because it does, its just heavier.

What? So a worse handling car equates to faster track times? Did you just make up a new definition for handling?

I've owned both. There is a reason I am driving a Mustang today.

[SleepWarz]

I was fairly dissipointed with the 5.0's exhaust note. Not as much muscle in there as you'd think. The 4.6 sounded way better.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by wbt

What? So a worse handling car equates to faster track times? Did you just make up a new definition for handling?

I've owned both. There is a reason I am driving a Mustang today.

How often do you road race your car? How often do you push the mustang beyond the limits that a SS could handle in the twisties (do you have the skills to take either car to it's limit?), where do you spend 99% of your driving at? For me the slightly better handling of the 5.0 is not worth the punishment to comfort. Ford F!!!!!'d up on the mustang they should have improved on the 2004 Cobra IRS. I read that Ford has acknowledged this and therefore will offer IRS on future mustangs. After driving several 5.0s before purchasing the SS I agree with the OP.

[Sweet Zness]

Your preaching to the choir with wbt. He's here to rescue all threads from 5.0 doom and gloom. Go figure on a Camaro site to boot.