Nitrous best setup?

[BloodUSMC]

Originally Posted by Nitro Dave

Thanks for looking at our website. We offer many different options for different platforms. We have anything from entry level products to the best in the industry. So make sure you are comparing apples to apples. On thing I promise is even with our entry level products there is no sacrifice in quality.

I would be happy to give you a hand in figuring out what works with your budget and expectations.

Dave

Hey Dave,

Im looking for the zex kit poormanscamaro posted. With all important safesty addons. Can you pm me price.

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[Nitro Dave]

Shooting you a pm.
Dave

[DarkneSS]

If you really want to be cheaper and know enough about nitrous you can get just get a barebones kit. All you really need is a bottle, your two solenoids, the shark and some steel braided line. A t tap as well for the fuel along with a bottle heater. Other than that youd be good to go but you end up being the safety system.

[Amarr014]

whats a blow down tube do?

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Amarr014

whats a blow down tube do?

If your bottle is ever over-filled or over-heated and the pressure safety disk bursts, the dangerous over-pressure will safely vent to the outside of the vehicle. All racetracks require a blow down tube.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by BloodUSMC

Thanks scrming. They sell gas race at the track. I will use that. Btw is mixing race gas with 93 octane bad.

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not an issue, just make sure it is UNLEADED!

@Poorman... recommended some race fuel with the N20 mainly for some margin of safety... also, i believe we've seen some spark knock even with 93, so a bit of race gas may help even if you aren't tuned for it...

[usa1camaro1969]

Originally Posted by scrming

not an issue, just make sure it is UNLEADED!

@Poorman... recommended some race fuel with the N20 mainly for some margin of safety... also, i believe we've seen some spark knock even with 93, so a bit of race gas may help even if you aren't tuned for it...

Yep, on both accounts.

Nitro-Dave has some cheaper kits and they can do a custom.

Don't use a t-fitting and cut into a fuel line on these cars.
There's a Schraeder valve toward the back passenger-side top of the motor.

[BloodUSMC]

yup Nitro-Dave is working on a deal for me.

[Nitro Dave]

You guys screaming cheap scare me! You are usually the ones with blown motors in the end. Face it many companys will be happy selling you that bare bone system with out the needed safety items and accessories. They just want your money. They dont care if you blow up the motor in your daily driver.

If you can not afford to do it right dont do it. Plain and simple if you cant afford to do it right you deffintly cant afford to put a motor in the car.

No matter what any salesman tells you a 500 dollar base system is not going to give you what you need to do it right. If you have to, buy the parts over time and then have it installed. I promise if you follow my direction and listen to my technical team you will have a fun and safe experience. If not there is a 99.9 percent chance you will look back and say damn I should have listen.

Dave

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by Nitro Dave

You guys screaming cheap scare me! You are usually the ones with blown motors in the end. Face it many companys will be happy selling you that bare bone system with out the needed safety items and accessories. They just want your money. They dont care if you blow up the motor in your daily driver.

If you can not afford to do it right dont do it. Plain and simple if you cant afford to do it right you deffintly cant afford to put a motor in the car.

No matter what any salesman tells you a 500 dollar base system is not going to give you what you need to do it right. If you have to, buy the parts over time and then have it installed. I promise if you follow my direction and listen to my technical team you will have a fun and safe experience. If not there is a 99.9 percent chance you will look back and say damn I should have listen.

Dave

I put 10 bottles through my old engine, only thing that broke was the tranny. All I has was solenoids and an automatic bottle heater. no window switch, no purge, nothing.

i just dont trust those systems and stuff, call me old fashioned I guess. Nitrous is really simple all you have to do is make sure you spray at full throttle and above ~2,300 rpms, and no in between shifts. Its not complicated to me lol all I need was one activation switch that I wired to the horn.

I guess Im the 1% LOL

[Nitro Dave]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

I put 10 bottles through my old engine, only thing that broke was the tranny. All I has was solenoids and an automatic bottle heater. no window switch, no purge, nothing.

i just dont trust those systems and stuff, call me old fashioned I guess. Nitrous is really simple all you have to do is make sure you spray at full throttle and above ~2,300 rpms, and no in between shifts. Its not complicated to me lol all I need was one activation switch that I wired to the horn.

I guess Im the 1% LOL

Some people gamble and have all the luck. Im not a gambling man.

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by Nitro Dave

Some people gamble and have all the luck. Im not a gambling man.

Lol I can definitely say I like to gamble a lot. Different strokes for different folks lol.

Whether anyone agrees or disagrees with me btw, and Ive stressed this a lot in other threads, you need to completely understand how the system works. Thats why I didnt get any of the extra stuff. Dont go give your car to a shop and get all this stuff put in for safety measure when you dont even know exactly why they are there. At least understand how to use the kit if you didnt have the safety features.

[Nitro Dave]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Lol I can definitely say I like to gamble a lot. Different strokes for different folks lol.

Whether anyone agrees or disagrees with me btw, and Ive stressed this a lot in other threads, you need to completely understand how the system works. Thats why I didnt get any of the extra stuff. Dont go give your car to a shop and get all this stuff put in for safety measure when you dont even know exactly why they are there. At least understand how to use the kit if you didnt have the safety features.

So your saying you did not fully understand how everything workds so you simply did not use it?

As to a shop installing it. There is nothing wrong with that. You should just make sure to use a shop that knows what they are doing and will take time to teach you about your set up before handing you the keys.

I mean this with the most respect possible but your advise is horrible. Just because you got away with half assing your set up (so far) does not mean you should suggest half assing it to others. 10 bottles through a car is nothing.. Trust me you keep going your route and eventually its going to bite you in the ass. All that has to happen is, the car bog, tranny slip, miss a gear, rear end break, drive shaft brake etc. Stuff that is out of your controll will cost you a motor because you simply cheated your self on a 150.00 part.

Spraying at 2300 RPM is just asking for trouble as well.

Dont get me wrong. I am all for supporting any fellow hot rodder using nitrous but our company mission is customer education and people making poor decisions and suggesting them to others is our biggest battle in this industry.

Dave

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by Nitro Dave

So your saying you did not fully understand how everything workds so you simply did not use it?

As to a shop installing it. There is nothing wrong with that. You should just make sure to use a shop that knows what they are doing and will take time to teach you about your set up before handing you the keys.

I mean this with the most respect possible but your advise is horrible. Just because you got away with half assing your set up (so far) does not mean you should suggest half assing it to others. 10 bottles through a car is nothing.. Trust me you keep going your route and eventually its going to bite you in the ass. All that has to happen is, the car bog, tranny slip, miss a gear, rear end break, drive shaft brake etc. Stuff that is out of your controll will cost you a motor because you simply cheated your self on a 150.00 part.

Spraying at 2300 RPM is just asking for trouble as well.

Dont get me wrong. I am all for supporting any fellow hot rodder using nitrous but our company mission is customer education and people making poor decisions and suggesting them to others is our biggest battle in this industry.

Dave

I don't think anyone listens or interprets writing properly anymore.

I believe he said "spray above" 2.3k/rpm., and I also think he is saying he has a pretty good understanding of how nitrous will work "safely", the old school "manual" way, and it's important to understand those basics before getting all the bells and whistles.

Making an educated decisions isn't a bad way to approach spending thousands of dollars on mods for your engine. I should know, I did all the research and still re-building an engine even after I planned the safest SC install, with minimal boost, intercooled and still ended up with engine damage before we got around to forging internal because we changed everything in the head assembly except the cheap GM valves and that was the weakest link.

So, I agree with both your points, safety is very important but so is a proper education on what your mod'ing, especially when it's the engine.

I would ask, could you provide a list of the very bare bones basics of a nitrous system and how it works, pros / cons and risk, and then a full list that would address the risks?

This wouldn't be a waste of your time perhaps you could ask C5 to post it as a sticky.

I'd be interested in Nitrous for track days and may be the next mod I do, once I break in the new engine, get used to the new power on the track and make adjustments.