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Old 04-12-2009, 05:13 PM   #141
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:37 PM   #142
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In the form of pre-orders yes they can and I wasnt talking specifically about Camaros. If they sold ALL of their cars at a reasonable price then the volume would be there.
With all due respect I disagree,GM is the largest volume automaker (Toyota uncludes Diahatsu and Hino)and has sold more vehicles than anyone in history.Reduce the price of steel,labor and parts ,then the price will go down.Example,I had a lady come in and trade a 1994 Lumina Euro, the original window sticker was in the car.Her comment was "the prices of cars are high".She left buying a 2007 Impala within $1000 of what the Lumina was 13 years before.I'll be glad when GM files bancruptcy ,just to not hear "GM is in a bind,you need to sell something".Car prices are reasonable IMO ,could they be CHEAPER,yes,with cheaper being the point.New technology such as hybrids's and alternative energy sources will increase prices in the future.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:44 PM   #143
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Master Chief. I appreciate that you are frustrated. But this is not the way to express you anger. This thread has maintained it's integrity so far. I won't let it reduce itself to grenade throwing. Move your posts in a more consturctive direction please.
I'm sorry. I just think the guy is calling me a liar even though he knows I am telling the truth.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:53 PM   #144
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I see that their eBay auction's are ending without meeting the reserve. I am really curious how high it was. Oh well, maybe they learned that this is not the economy to try and take advantage of your customers.
The one car didn't make reserve (YAY!) and the other one sold for about $43K (Boo! Hiss!)

I figure if you pull out the ebay listing and service fees the actual amount the car is selling for is just about MSRP.

Dan lost a bunch of customers, gave his dealership a massively poor reputation on a wildly popular forum, and made a pittance more than he would have gotten by taking my order in October for basically the same car (except mine would have been a much better color choice).

The only downside is that this educational experience for Dan has cost a number of people their orders.

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Old 04-12-2009, 07:55 PM   #145
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I see that their eBay auction's are ending without meeting the reserve. I am really curious how high it was. Oh well, maybe they learned that this is not the economy to try and take advantage of your customers.
This same senario 1 year ago----I bet those would have sold at reserve or higher.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:43 PM   #146
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This same senario 1 year ago----I bet those would have sold at reserve or higher.
I agree with that, but he should have known that they werent going to sell when he put them up there. I know for a fact that there are many many people out there that don't even know a new Camaro exists, so I would say most people would be skeptical about bidding on one over the internet. I think he would have made a lot more money by waiting until he got the car in his showroom. He could have probably sold it for north of $50K just based on the sheer electricity of this car... that's why I am making sure I bring someone else with me when I go to take delivery of my car. I am pretty sure that if I am there by myself and they jack the price up 5 or 10 grand, I would probably pay it because I want this car so bad. Gotta have an unbiased person with me.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:59 PM   #147
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I think at 43 it is barely a rip-off. And I caused no one to lose orders Master Chief. This will be my last post. Those cars were allocated to me and I have the rite to do what I please with them. (Why dont you get a job as a General Manager and then you can make the decisions and be questioned about them) No you could not take it because you hide behind your computer throwing insults. You know where I am why dont you do it face to face and be a man. I even offered to help you even though we had never met. Like I have said I am sorry others are waiting a long time but it is out of my control. But I had the reserve low and it sold. I am done with the back and forth. All I have to say Master Chief..With your attitude I am glad not to have you as a customer. I have enough good ones to make me survive. Thats all. Dan
you are glad to not have him as a customer??? I guess you already got everything out of him that you wanted? He was a loyal customer up until now.
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:04 PM   #148
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I think at 43 it is barely a rip-off. And I caused no one to lose orders Master Chief. This will be my last post. Those cars were allocated to me and I have the rite to do what I please with them. (Why dont you get a job as a General Manager and then you can make the decisions and be questioned about them) No you could not take it because you hide behind your computer throwing insults. You know where I am why dont you do it face to face and be a man. I even offered to help you even though we had never met. Like I have said I am sorry others are waiting a long time but it is out of my control. But I had the reserve low and it sold. I am done with the back and forth. All I have to say Master Chief..With your attitude I am glad not to have you as a customer. I know who you are and with guys like you posting all it does is hurt this site. (But they can be the judge of that). I have enough good ones to make me survive. Thats all. Dan
This one is for your Former customers you have belittled on here...Take a hike..And don't let the door hit you on the way out.. And I'm sure your former customer who has given you lots of money over the years and word of mouth support is also glad he finally knows the real Salisbury Chevrolet and their price gouging tactics and weasel like lies..
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:15 PM   #149
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Those cars were allocated to me and I have the rite to do what I please with them.
Pretty much sums it up. Thanks for confirming what many of us already knew.
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All I can say, is that I hope that the winning bidder holds him to the terms of the auction, ie delivery date, and tacks his rear end to the wall when he can't deliver on the date promised.

If you can't make money without telling lies...well, then you shouldn't be in business.

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Old 04-12-2009, 10:34 PM   #151
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Pretty much sums it up. Thanks for confirming what many of us already knew.
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:57 PM   #152
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All I can say, is that I hope that the winning bidder holds him to the terms of the auction, ie delivery date, and tacks his rear end to the wall when he can't deliver on the date promised.

If you can't make money without telling lies...well, then you shouldn't be in business.

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Exactly... I hope that he is VERY disappointed when his customer refuses to pay because they won't have their car on Wednesday... There are people on here that are in the first thousand produced, and they dont have a clue when they are getting their cars, let alone knowing they are getting them this week.
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This one is for your Former customers you have belittled on here...Take a hike..And don't let the door hit you on the way out.. And I'm sure your former customer who has given you lots of money over the years and word of mouth support is also glad he finally knows the real Salisbury Chevrolet and their price gouging tactics and weasel like lies..
It's a simple auction. It's not price gouging, the customers set the market. Some of you need to back off, you're taking someone else's sound business practices personal because you are not the one's to benefit. He didn't order cars for customers, he sold them however he wanted. It is his right. All this attacking, negativity and mob mentality is uncalled for.
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Exactly... I hope that he is VERY disappointed when his customer refuses to pay because they won't have their car on Wednesday... There are people on here that are in the first thousand produced, and they dont have a clue when they are getting their cars, let alone knowing they are getting them this week.
why would he be upset? he probably will just repost it, you even said earlier that he probably could have gotten $50 k once people figure out the camaro is out.
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