Open Letter from Al Oppenhieser to the Camaro Nation and Ford.

[The_Blur]

I would like to see this time trial live on Speed with a Budweiser, popcorn, and a Ford fanboy to torture through it all.

[camaroitalia]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I would like to see this time trial live on Speed with a Budweiser, popcorn, and a Ford fanboy to torture through it all.

sounds like the perfect evening

i am proud of both companies, but i will lean strongly to the zl1 at the track and if shelby can get the power down right the 1/4 mile will be given to them.
It is a great time and a sad time to be a car guy, seeing all of these new cars and power numbers is great! sad part is, i can barely afford to look at them.

[Pappa Joe]

Originally Posted by obzidian

Just a question, what's a "rumour" anyways?

Same as rumor...just the french version

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Pappa Joe

Same as rumor...just the french version

Canadian...

[MileMAN402]

Considering the Ford/Shelby contract runs out in 2013 this may well be the last GT500. I'll be rooting for the ZL1 if this race ever happens but I'd rather have BOTH in my garage since they are both great cars.

[GTAHVIT]

I'm still thinking there will be a GT500 (or something like it) even if the Shelby contract falls through...

I'm guessing Shelby will continue to be the name for a while.

[SSmoked]

Originally Posted by MileMAN402

Considering the Ford/Shelby contract runs out in 2013 this may well be the last GT500. I'll be rooting for the ZL1 if this race ever happens but I'd rather have BOTH in my garage since they are both great cars.

If they dont renew that contract welcome back the Terminator Cobra. that i would like to see come back. Terminator > gt500

[djinva]

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

It is a great time and a sad time to be a car guy, seeing all of these new cars and power numbers is great! sad part is, i can barely afford to look at them.

I hear ya, 2 kids in college here, but I can dream.

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by SSmoked

If they dont renew that contract welcome back the Terminator Cobra. that i would like to see come back. Terminator > gt500

I heard a rumor that the Terminator Cobra is gonna make a comeback.....

[MileMAN402]

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

I'm still thinking there will be a GT500 (or something like it) even if the Shelby contract falls through...

I'm guessing Shelby will continue to be the name for a while.

Originally Posted by SSmoked

If they dont renew that contract welcome back the Terminator Cobra. that i would like to see come back. Terminator > gt500

I agree, and I would rather see the Cobra name come back too.

[IcePick06]

Originally Posted by SSmoked

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/dr...d-shelby-gt500

Ill just leave that there for those who say the ford wasnt built on the ring.

INTERESTING, but since no lap times were posted in that article during the 4 laps done by the journalist and the test driver (GENE) I'm going to assume the times weren't up to par with the ZL1.

I will go as far to say as reading that gave me the impression that the new GT500 will be a beast in a straight line with the added power components (launch control, carbon fiber driveshaft, hopefully larger tires, etc) but since the bilstein electronic shocks are only two valved I doubt the GT500 will be able to lap a technical track quicker than the ZL1 which adjust damping up to 1000 times per second. Even the journalist said the ZL1 has more technology put into it...that makes me .

I'm ok with not having 650 HP from the factory right now, But I'd even go as far to say that if we complain enough as ZL1 owners and Chevy wants to oblige with our whining we might even see a "factory upgraded PULLEY" on the accessories/parts list within the next year if we're lucky

[Rice Killer]

Originally Posted by IcePick06

I'm ok with not having 650 HP from the factory right now, But I'd even go as far to say that if we complain enough as ZL1 owners and Chevy wants to oblige with our whining we might even see a "factory upgraded PULLEY" on the accessories/parts list within the next year if we're lucky

I hope you're right but I don't think it will happen because the auto is rated around 560 ft/lbs of torque. I also believe this is why we saw a 24 bump in hp over the CTS-V but essentially the same torque ratings. I am glad they are offering the car in an auto but also feel like it could hinder factory backed upgrades. IMO

[1st Gen Forever]

Originally Posted by IcePick06

I'm ok with not having 650 HP from the factory right now, But I'd even go as far to say that if we complain enough as ZL1 owners and Chevy wants to oblige with our whining we might even see a "factory upgraded PULLEY" on the accessories/parts list within the next year if we're lucky

Now this would be great! Make it a GMPP part that, dealer installed and tuned, won't void the warranty!

What would suck for those of us that are still in for a 2012 ZL1 is to see the 2013 six months later with more factory HP and our cars just dropped in value massively!

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Betiwin

I'm really surprised by all this. I have never seen an automaker act like GM is right now. All this in your face stuff with the zl1 for about 4 months now. Now they got there Cheerios peed in they r writing letters and making school boy challenges? Ford has kept quite the whole time for months, and just dropped the A bomb at the LA auto show. GM is like Japan rallying the woman and Children to fight to the death. Ford has kept mum this whole time, why would they change now. I'm sure they will drop "little boy" and finish off the war come February when both cars are reviewed by he mags. You guys really need to relax and if ur buying the camaro know you r getting one hell of a car. If the GT500 runs a better 0-60 does your car suck now? (it will GT no shift till 62mph) what about 1/4 mile. If the GT runs an 11.8 how does that make the zl1 any less awsome. Lastly who will ever keep these stock? I've never seen a stock mustang except on the showroom floor. These are both awsome American Machines, but I still don't get GM acting like the bully who can't admit he might have someone who can whoop his a$$.

Wow - I'm not sure where you're coming from.

We engaged our enthusiasts on this site - we provided video so that you would see how the ZL1 was engineered - and what we did to provide you (the Camaro enthusias - not sure if you're a Camaro enthusiast) with an incredibly balanced car --

When we were asked questions that we could answer, we did.

So....are you saying that we shouldn't do that?

I don't see us 'acting like the bully' -- OTHER THAN we simply issued a challenge due to the hysteria on this and many other Mustang and Camaro boards.......would you rather that we just sat back and did nothing?