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manimsoblack · 04-29-2009, 01:29 AM

I just got into an argument at work about this sort of thing. I was just announcing that my car is now an orphan and one of my coworkers who i generally agree with goes on about how the government is wasting money on gm and chrysler and should just let them die and how foreign cars are superior in every way and domestics suck and blah blah blah. I asked him for examples of domestics that are absolutely crappy and he had nothing to say. I asked him if he knew how many jobs would be lost in america, canada and mexico if GM and Chryler went under... again nothing to say. I asked him to tell me how exactly his 05 Camry is better than my 04 grand am... he shook his head and walked away. Two days later his dads Sante Fe broke down while we were working. His Sante Fe has been in the car shop (conveniently located right door to our store) at least 3 times in the last year for not starting and various other random breakdowns. I've had to change my oil 9 times, tires twice, and wiper fluid container once (because a piece of rebar was sticking up really high from a parking stopper thing and it punctured it when i pulled up) in the 14mnths i've had my car... who builts crappy cars again.

/rant
/soapbox

stovt001 · 04-29-2009, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Toyota always blames problems on the consumer...and if it's proven that they messed up, they never issue "recalls," always "service campaigns" or some BS like that.

GM actually has the balls to come out and say, "Yeah, we messed up. We'll fix it, our bad."

I worked at a Toyota dealer during a period when the majority of cars the brand sold were affected by "warranty enhancements", "buybacks" etc. Never sat right with me. Then my poor grandma bought a Rav4 on my discount. It has to go in to have the TPMS sensor replaced on a regular monthly basis. I felt real bad about that one. I told her the Rav was probably a safe buy since it was one of the very few models that hadn't been recalled a ton yet. Woops.

theholycow · 04-29-2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by manimsoblack

I just got into an argument at work about this sort of thing. I was just announcing that my car is now an orphan and one of my coworkers who i generally agree with goes on about how the government is wasting money on gm and chrysler and should just let them die and how foreign cars are superior in every way and domestics suck and blah blah blah. I asked him for examples of domestics that are absolutely crappy and he had nothing to say.

Review JD Power reliability studies so you'll have fuel next time...there are some categories where GM and/or Ford fill the top spots and Honda/Toyota are in the middle or even lagging behind...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...938#post387938

fdjizm · 04-29-2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollin Thunder

I was on the highway yesterday coming back from the airport. and a Toyota minivan (savana sianna salrina what ever it was the new style) was driving along in the lane next to me about 3 cars ahead and all of a sudden HIS TRANSMISSION PAN fell out, I had to swerve at 70 mph to avoid it as it had jagged edges and I new if I hit a blow out was coming. But holy shit, they cant even built cars that hold tranny pans. I new it was the pan because of the shape and the fact that fluid was just pouring out after it fell. OMG I laughed my ass off.

I think you just totally made that up... front wheel drive transmission pan?

Emher · 04-29-2009, 09:06 AM

First off this makes me worried about my dad and mom. Dad bought a Prius a few years ago and mom drives that in the summer when dad drives his Honda Varadero motorbike (don't hate on the latter, very nice bike). I don't want to this to happen while they're driving the car.

Secondly let's hope this article gets the attention it deserves and hold those bores at Toyota responsible!

*DGthe3* · 04-29-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FxsX24

my 2.2 s10 had a accelerator problem, it just would not go

Common misconception. You thought you were pressing the accelerator pedal, which is incorrect. Technically, it was the loud pedal. Had the same issue in our 97 Saturn. Press the pedal, car makes more noise but doesn't go any faster. Thus, loud pedal not accelerator.

fdjizm · 04-29-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Common misconception. You thought you were pressing the accelerator pedal, which is incorrect. Technically, it was the loud pedal. Had the same issue in our 97 Saturn. Press the pedal, car makes more noise but doesn't go any faster. Thus, loud pedal not accelerator.

my 98 civic seems to have the same issue.. any fix

theholycow · 04-29-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

my 98 civic seems to have the same issue.. any fix

Well, I've seen a lot of Civics with park benches bolted to their trunk lid....maybe that solves the problem?

Captain Awesome · 04-29-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Common misconception. You thought you were pressing the accelerator pedal, which is incorrect. Technically, it was the loud pedal. Had the same issue in our 97 Saturn. Press the pedal, car makes more noise but doesn't go any faster. Thus, loud pedal not accelerator.

My SS has one of those newfangled "multi-function" pedals where they combine many features into a single easy to use control. In this case the accelerator pedal and loud pedal are combined into a single pedal to the right of the brake. It works great!

Justin · 04-29-2009, 01:48 PM

So THAT'S what that smoke is from!

FxsX24 · 09-22-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Common misconception. You thought you were pressing the accelerator pedal, which is incorrect. Technically, it was the loud pedal. Had the same issue in our 97 Saturn. Press the pedal, car makes more noise but doesn't go any faster. Thus, loud pedal not accelerator.

i made it a loud pedal now

duder4thgen · 09-23-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

I think you just totally made that up... front wheel drive transmission pan?

Ive changed one with my own hands on one of those Sienna's. FWD automatics have pans and filters just like anything else.

Revo1 · 09-23-2009, 10:56 AM

I'm gonna need an old priest, a young priest, and a vial of holy water... The power of octane compels you!... THE POWER OF OCTANE COMPELS YOU!

meanmike · 09-23-2009, 11:07 AM

This is funny, we had this discussion on the G8 board several month's ago and there were actually dumbasses sticking up for them and saying it's ok.

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