L99 Cam advice

[NateSS]

I was in your same shoes last year. I got some great advice on these forums and from the different shops i priced.

i decided to go with the 3200 which meant a trans. cooler too, LS3 conversion. However I was very tempted to go to texas speed for the vvt package.

Like Mike and a few others said, ya gotta just roll with the punches. In the end, like myself, you will be very happy you decided to go with the cam. It sure is like a disease. For me, what started off with a 350 dollar cold air intake, eventually turned into "shit, what can I do next"...about 20 grand later

[WadeWilson]

I'm having the conversion done this summer.

My cam will be a 229/236, .624/.615 with a 114LSA and I'll be going with a 2800 FTI converter as well as a Derale 13720 trans cooler.

I'm having a bit more done, but those items are in direct relation to your OP.

Good luck with your decision!

[Ivan @ Southwest Speed]

FYI,

We offer the LG G6X3 with the LS3 Conversion Kit.

Now you can have what everybody else wants in your L99!!!

Ivan

[brantley847]

what trans cooler did you guys prefer? I see you went Derale, shar... the prices all seem to be within the same area.

Yea, Ivan, the G6X3 is very appealing... isn't that a pretty decent size cam? I don't want to go too aggressive.. something that keeps me between 440-470hp probably.

I guess what it will probably come down to is whether to convert or not...and I will probably throw on the supporting mods

-3.73s
-oil pump
-I am still going both ways with the stall. Padre made some great points and I really want the gears done.

Would love to throw ported heads on while we are in there as well as axles to really solidify the foundation of reliability, but I just don't know if that will stay within my price range.

[CFD]

I just did the vvt-3 a couple of weeks ago. I was in the same situation as you, not sure which route I wanted to take. I haven't driven the car much as the facia is off but I sneak it out now and then. The torque and power is definately there and throttle response is great. I haven't done a converter yet and without it driveability is somewhat of an issue and it does rock and roll a bit at idle. It sounds great. I wish I could give you more input but I won't be driving much for another week or two when the facia is finished. If you haven't made a decision by then I will give you my thoughts after driving a bit more.

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by CFD

I just did the vvt-3 a couple of weeks ago. I was in the same situation as you, not sure which route I wanted to take. I haven't driven the car much as the facia is off but I sneak it out now and then. The torque and power is definately there and throttle response is great. I haven't done a converter yet and without it driveability is somewhat of an issue and it does rock and roll a bit at idle. It sounds great. I wish I could give you more input but I won't be driving much for another week or two when the facia is finished. If you haven't made a decision by then I will give you my thoughts after driving a bit more.

Yea, let me know if you don't mind...

My feeling right now is if I do VVT2 or what some call "stage 2" middle of the road cam, then I probably won't do the converter. If I go any more aggressive such as a VVT3 or something large in a conversion, I probably imagine I should. I don't mind a lil bit of rock and roll, but would like to keep the shake moderate.

I don't mind volume in cabin, I think we can tune around drone a bit if I change shift points in the RPMs. What are you guys with moderate to aggressive cams with stalls seeing for MPGs. I thought the stall would gig us a lil bit with the MPGs.

[Ricky11SS]

Originally Posted by CFD

I just did the vvt-3 a couple of weeks ago. I was in the same situation as you, not sure which route I wanted to take. I haven't driven the car much as the facia is off but I sneak it out now and then. The torque and power is definately there and throttle response is great. I haven't done a converter yet and without it driveability is somewhat of an issue and it does rock and roll a bit at idle. It sounds great. I wish I could give you more input but I won't be driving much for another week or two when the facia is finished. If you haven't made a decision by then I will give you my thoughts after driving a bit more.

are you ok without the converter?
is it drivable enough???
cuz i was planning in a cam but i didnt want the converter :/

[CFD]

Originally Posted by brantley847

Yea, let me know if you don't mind...

My feeling right now is if I do VVT2 or what some call "stage 2" middle of the road cam, then I probably won't do the converter. If I go any more aggressive such as a VVT3 or something large in a conversion, I probably imagine I should. I don't mind a lil bit of rock and roll, but would like to keep the shake moderate.

I don't mind volume in cabin, I think we can tune around drone a bit if I change shift points in the RPMs. What are you guys with moderate to aggressive cams with stalls seeing for MPGs. I thought the stall would gig us a lil bit with the MPGs.

The rock and roll isn't bad, I like it myself. I am running Doug Thorley long tubes, high flow cats and Solo Mach xl exhaust so drone has been a non issue, although I haven't been on the highway yet, other than being a little louder, in cabin has'nt changed much

[siriusdish]

vvt-3 and the 3600 work pretty well together. The car will kick out at 70 mph when put to the floor a little still with all the rear end mods ,not to bad. Not sure if he is going to do anything else or not? Said he is done, said that long ago,lol.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Ricky11SS

are you ok without the converter?
is it drivable enough???
cuz i was planning in a cam but i didnt want the converter :/

I've driven many cars with agressive cams so I am used to how it feels. This particular set up is not as bad as some I've driven. A little extra brake pressure is needed when stopped which is no problem, I guess the best way to describe how a large cam with a stock stall is that it is inconsistent,sometimes you get a bit of surge other times not, sometimes it catches you by surprise and will lunge forward slightly so it keeps you on your toes in traffic. I guess like anything else it is one of those things that's exceptable to some and not others. The best thing would be if you know someone with a similar set up that will let you drive their car.

[CFD]

One other thing I should mention. When I had the phaser tables installed and had it tuned I was planning on installing a 3600 stall converter so the car has been tuned for it, I am now thinking I may leave the stock one in so I'm not sure how much if any this is affecting how it drives.

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by CFD

I've driven many cars with aggressive cams so I am used to how it feels. This particular set up is not as bad as some I've driven. A little extra brake pressure is needed when stopped which is no problem, I guess the best way to describe how a large cam with a stock stall is that it is inconsistent,sometimes you get a bit of surge other times not, sometimes it catches you by surprise and will lunge forward slightly so it keeps you on your toes in traffic. I guess like anything else it is one of those things that's exceptable to some and not others. The best thing would be if you know someone with a similar set up that will let you drive their car.

Yea, I have been begging and searching to find someone who has an aggressive cam around the area at our shows and club meetings, but no one has taken the jump yet. Very surprised by that...

One thing I have always been curious of is how is a hard launch with or without a stall if anyone knows? for instance if you go to the strip and just mash it hard...sirius mention the rear gets a lil loose if you hit hard at 70, a bit surprised by that..

[Padre]

Originally Posted by brantley847

Yea, I have been begging and searching to find someone who has an aggressive cam around the area at our shows and club meetings, but no one has taken the jump yet. Very surprised by that...

One thing I have always been curious of is how is a hard launch with or without a stall if anyone knows? for instance if you go to the strip and just mash it hard...sirius mention the rear gets a lil loose if you hit hard at 70, a bit surprised by that..

With experience, launching with a stall is great, with or without drag radials.

I've always been a "launch from idle" guy, and it works great for me (1.65 sixty with bolt-ons).

With more power (comes great responsibility... )... err... comes more throttle control. You can punch a stock car and no worries because it's within its limits, but when highly modded, it just takes some relearning, which isn't that big a deal.

Padre

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by Padre

With experience, launching with a stall is great, with or without drag radials.

I've always been a "launch from idle" guy, and it works great for me (1.65 sixty with bolt-ons).

With more power (comes great responsibility... )... err... comes more throttle control. You can punch a stock car and no worries because it's within its limits, but when highly modded, it just takes some relearning, which isn't that big a deal.

Padre

Yea... nothing beats being thrown into your chair for a good launch from idle... but I reaaaaally don't want to end up in the wall only 50 yards from the line. lol