camshaft for v6 camaro

[UltrasonicKing]

Looks good so far mace, is the install easy or hard, in other words would a DIY guy be able to with lack of experience.

[HopeRidesAlone]

You guys are killing me lol im supposed to be saving my money.... lol

[hapisok]

what are the requirements to qualify for a good backyard mechanic? how would a mediocre garage mechanic fair?

[HopeRidesAlone]

Originally Posted by SC2150

The cam swap on these is NOT for the faint of heart......but a good backyard mechanic can do it. Proper cam timing is the critical part.

This is my downfall no matter how much work i feel so much better doing it myself even if i have never done it i would have to try it so i can say i did it. Just like springs will be getting put on soon never done anything like it before but a first for everything.

[hapisok]

Originally Posted by HopeRidesAlone

This is my downfall no matter how much work i feel so much better doing it myself even if i have never done it i would have to try it so i can say i did it. Just like springs will be getting put on soon never done anything like it before but a first for everything.

save yourself some heart ache and see if advance auto has a spring compressor you can borrow/check out. i used ratchet straps which got the job done...but it was a little red neck if you know what i mean. but it is very DIY doable. good luck

[HopeRidesAlone]

Originally Posted by hapisok

save yourself some heart ache and see if advance auto has a spring compressor you can borrow/check out. i used ratchet straps which got the job done...but it was a little red neck if you know what i mean. but it is very DIY doable. good luck

That is the plan depending on what my cousin who is my helping hand in all of my projects gotta teach him so i dont have to do stuff on his car lol. i might be attempting it tomorrow. Will be looking at the autozone or advance auto tool borrow thing.

[bmorecam]

I wouldn't even let a good backyard mechanic touch my cam swap LOL. Mess that cam timing and ughhhhh!! getting it right the first time is the right way to do it even if it mean paying a little extra.

[HopeRidesAlone]

Originally Posted by bmorecam

I wouldn't even let a good backyard mechanic touch my cam swap LOL. Mess that cam timing and ughhhhh!! getting it right the first time is the right way to do it even if it mean paying a little extra.

True how much does it cost to get cams installed though?

[bmorecam]

Originally Posted by HopeRidesAlone

True how much does it cost to get cams installed though?

I say around $1000 and more on average from a mechanic that I would trust. There are some real talented guys that will do this for you for alot cheaper tho, but I guess that's a personal preference if you are willing to take that chance. That's why when doing cams you might as well do the head too.

You guys think about this, if just doing the cams is worth about 20hp is it worth to do a cam swap??

[HopeRidesAlone]

not tearing it apart to just do cams but wouldnt be a bad deal to do heads and cam.

[mydreamcar]

Originally Posted by bmorecam

I say around $1000 and more on average from a mechanic that I would trust. There are some real talented guys that will do this for you for alot cheaper tho, but I guess that's a personal preference if you are willing to take that chance. That's why when doing cams you might as well do the head too.

You guys think about this, if just doing the cams is worth about 20hp is it worth to do a cam swap??

So how much to do the heads and what kind of power would we see, low side

[bmorecam]

Originally Posted by mydreamcar

So how much to do the heads and what kind of power would we see, low side

That can range ALOT! You have a company such as CFM that will port our head with angle valve job starting at $1000. I heard matt D, the one who ported and did the valve job for bmwdon and now installed on gretchen's car charge $1000 for the head and intake manifold for a complete job. So you are looking at around $3300, maybe a little less or a little more for install/head/cams.

Gain on the low side probably will be around 30-40 to the rear for the combo but if I had to guess I would say around 60 and maybe more depending on the grind for the combo. We just won't know for sure though until someone actually dyno the head but according to the flow report on matt d's worked head it could be possible that we could see 40+ with just head alone.

This is all from when bmwdon was doing the heads back in 2010. Maybe he can chime in and give us more info.

This is stock head's flow

"Intake
.200 135
.300 152
.400 160
.450 162
.500 160

Exhaust
.200 135
.300 152
.400 160
.450 162
.500 164

After the work

"Intake. Gain over stock
.200 195 +7
.300 262 +7
.400 304 +29
.450 324 +43
.500 327 +43
.550 334
.600 339

exhaust

.200 147 +10
.300 175 +23
.400 194 +34
.450 200 +38
.500 203 +39
.550 205
.600 206

[kuzman89]

Good work Mace!

[gotexas25]

Originally Posted by kuzman89

Good work Mace, just got to make sure they don't copy your camshaft design and name it "ICEocam" or some bullcrap like they did with your manifold spacer.

Let's not turn this into a vendor-bashing thread, these guys are working together to make our LLT a great motor.

Plus Tracy stated that they won't be duplicating Mace's efforts, as they are much further into the process.