So what do I have to do to beat a 5.0

[Black GT]

Originally Posted by sschevybear11

I claim it also.

[goodtime]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Didnt you make your point the first time around here on this website before you got banned wbt?

Seriously...what is your mission? For everyone to sell their camaro just because the 5.0 is faster? Are you going to sell your 5.0 if the 2015 camaro is better?

If you think you are going to educate everyone in the world on the greatness of the 5.0 you are wasting your time. Some dont care...some wont believe a word you say no matter what you post. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.

anyway...I hope you do get your high 10 second pass with full bolt ons, drag wheels and tires and minor weight reduction...that is very impressive. The current best pass for a camaro in that trim is an 11.6@ 119. I am sure that makes you happy.

do you think the car can gain another 4 tenths from just the boss intake (you say the cai added nothing)? that is like adding 40hp. I thought they only showed another 15rwhp or so at very high rpm? And shoulndt your car have a partial cage and be adding weight if you are running 11.5 and under? You have some obstacles to overcome but I am sure you can do it...you seem very passionate about your ride...im just not so sure why you think the entire camaro community needs to know day after day. If you have other reasons to be here that is great and I apologize...but I havent seen them.

I have no agenda. Just talking cars in a vs. forum and responding to some claims that were made.

The Boss intake doesn't make any more peak power vs. the stock however it does it for ~1K RPM. 6,800-7,800. The stock intake hit's peak power right around 6,800 and then falls sharply off. For example, at 7,800, the Boss intake is making 50+ more WHP vs. the stock. The trade off is some loss of TQ in the lower RPM range but that isn't where the time is spent at the track.

On the 11.31 run I was in 1,200' DA. It corrects down to 11.16@124.46. I believe the Boss intake will push me into the high 10's N/A with good prep and air.

Yes on the roll bar, etc. I mentioned it in a previous post in this thread.

Link to timeslips:

[YouseeSS]

Originally Posted by cam99

Life isn't all about the checkered flag, at some point you have to leave the track. Mustangs are good performers, but honestly nutswingers talk about them like they are the second coming of the automotive world.

Nevermind

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by jayscamaro

Get a zl1

[iHasCamaro]

Don't feel bad. My first time to the track last weekend was embarrassing, although I managed to beat every mustang that showed up after I remembered to turn off traction control.

However, none of them were new 5.0's, and the only cars running quick were race prepped imports. There wasn't a Mitsubishi there slower than 12.9 (quickest was 10.4). There was an Integra trapping almost 140mph on street tires. Meanwhile I couldn't break out of high 13's w/ no traction and wheel hop issues. The whole night was like the twilight zone.

[jcAUss]

My cai filter is a year old and the new one should be here tomorrow. Maybe that will make a difference. Also with the heat in Al it slowed my times. The corrected da times would have been 12.6x so it puts me where I thought I should be with my mods. I am going to get 18 inch wheels and street slicks before I head back to the track. Thanks for all the input, most has been productive comments and thanks for that. When I hit the lottery I will be purchasing the ZL1 and then I won't have any issues. Ha ha

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by goodtime

I have no agenda. Just talking cars in a vs. forum and responding to some claims that were made.

The Boss intake doesn't make any more peak power vs. the stock however it does it for ~1K RPM. 6,800-7,800. The stock intake hit's peak power right around 6,800 and then falls sharply off. For example, at 7,800, the Boss intake is making 50+ more WHP vs. the stock. The trade off is some loss of TQ in the lower RPM range but that isn't where the time is spent at the track.

On the 11.31 run I was in 1,200' DA. It corrects down to 11.16@124.46. I believe the Boss intake will push me into the high 10's N/A with good prep and air.

Yes on the roll bar, etc. I mentioned it in a previous post in this thread.

Link to timeslips:

Thats cool...I deleted the post to avoid an argument...looks like you didnt take it in a bad way like I thought you would.

I thought you were talking an E-85 tune as well. Did you do that yet? if not that could help you out as well.

[Truck Norris]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

When motor trend raced the 2010 GT500 against the 2010 SS on an airstrip (not even prepped track) with video the SS ran a 12.9 to the GT500 12.8.

Hot Rod magazine also ran a 12.9 with the manual SS.

Most mags were/are getting 13.0-13.1 with 110-111 trap speed out of the ls3. If a car that traps 110-111 cant get 12's it is nothing more than a traction problem.

It takes a 13.1 to even make the last spot on the fast list on this website.

MT was running 12.7 all day with their 5.0L on an un-prepped surface in this video.


MT was also running 12.9 with the heavier GT vert here going agains a a typical 13.2 in the SS.

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Bla Bla Bla... Race star wheels and slicks goes a long way! Most bolt-on 5th gens are using 20" drag radails on stock rims. The few cars that do have 18"s in a drag setup are well in the 11s too. Not to mention just recent a guy went 11.6s with bolts-ons on his 20s. Put 15" race stars and slicks with a full bolt-on SS and they would be right there too. If you notice most times with stock rims on 5.0s on drag radials are not nearly as good as the cars on full drag setups.

Racestar skinnies have proven to be only worth about .1 seconds at the track and the rears are almost as wash considering the winner of the latest King of the street was a 5.0L with a 2.9L Whipple running on 9.70@145 on 20" drag radials with the stock auto and converter weighing in at 4,084lbs w/ driver.

[Bad70supreme]

Ok bud tell me another one, been around drag racing my hole life! Your trying to tell me that a 15" drag wheel setup with a slick over a 20" or even a 18" wheel setup is only worth .1 Lets just end it right here because you completely wrong! I wont even bother giving you examples of how off you are.

[sschevybear11]

2 road tests not using proper equipment, this is only a representation. Light weight rims and tires with slicks good for a tenth, you expect people to believe that? I can't understand the folks that migrate over here and feel like they need to prove something........

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Truck Norris

MT was running 12.7 all day with their 5.0L on an un-prepped surface in this video.


MT was also running 12.9 with the heavier GT vert here going agains a a typical 13.2 in the SS.





Racestar skinnies have proven to be only worth about .1 seconds at the track and the rears are almost as wash considering the winner of the latest King of the street was a 5.0L with a 2.9L Whipple running on 9.70@145 on 20" drag radials with the stock auto and converter weighing in at 4,084lbs w/ driver.

Thanks...all old news. That is impressive that the SS vert...which is well over 4k pounds...still managed a 13.2. The mustang also had a faster convertible top. You forgot to mention that lol.

As far as your comment about a 20 inch rear rim and tire being a wash compared to 15-16 inch drag slick or aggressive DR...it is obvious you have very little knowledge on the subject to make such a statement.

If it is a manual car or an auto car with a stall converter in which they launch at high rpms...this mod alone could be worth a half second or more.

[goodtime]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Thats cool...I deleted the post to avoid an argument...looks like you didnt take it in a bad way like I thought you would.

I thought you were talking an E-85 tune as well. Did you do that yet? if not that could help you out as well.

No issue on my side.

e85 isn't worth much on a N/A application however I was looking into putting my larger injectors in when I bolt the Boss intake on to support it. My main goal there is to help with the Summer heat we are going to be experiencing soon which will help with timing being pulled.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by goodtime

No issue on my side.

e85 isn't worth much on a N/A application however I was looking into putting my larger injectors in when I bolt the Boss intake on to support it. My main goal there is to help with the Summer heat we are going to be experiencing soon which will help with timing being pulled.

Sounds good.

Good luck with everything.

[Truck Norris]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Thanks...all old news. That is impressive that the SS vert...which is well over 4k pounds...still managed a 13.2. The mustang also had a faster convertible top. You forgot to mention that lol.

As far as your comment about a 20 inch rear rim and tire being a wash compared to 15-16 inch drag slick or aggressive DR...it is obvious you have very little knowledge on the subject to make such a statement.

If it is a manual car or an auto car with a stall converter in which they launch at high rpms...this mod alone could be worth a half second or more.

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Ok bud tell me another one, been around drag racing my hole life! Your trying to tell me that a 15" drag wheel setup with a slick over a 20" or even a 18" wheel setup is only worth .1 Lets just end it right here because you completely wrong! I wont even bother giving you examples of how off you are.

Go back and re-read my post. I said swapping the stock fronts only for skinny Racestar FRONTS is only worth about .1

I came to this conclusion based on my own personal experience and the famous svtp member rw95GT (fastest stock powered GT500) who went from a 11.35 with heavy 19" stock front's down to 11.27 with 17" Racestar skinnys up front. He eventually got it down to a 11.16 after a few more sessions and better weather.

11.35 w/ stock fronts and 15" rear slicks


11.27 & 11.1 w/ Racestar Skinnys fronts and 15" Racestar rears w/ slicks.


Sure 15" slicks hook better then a 18-20" DR's but there are still plenty of 9 second Mustangs running 18-20's to make me think that its not as big of a deal as some of you make out to be and to show its ability to drive to the track on your factory 20" rims and click off 9 second pass's to win the competition and drive back home in your full weight 4,070lb 5.0L Mustang on 20's.
Chris Cruzs 2011 5.0 runs a 9.70@145mph on 20" drag radials