OBX Longtube Headers

[Erik@lashway]

We carry the full line of OBX products...


Most folks on here have probably bought theirs from us. We are a stocking dealer of these products, and stand behind their fit, finish, and performance.

For the price, they cannot be beat. NO they are not made in the US, but for some they are a great fit for their budget!

Erik@Lashway

[Erik@lashway]

Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

This is a slippery slope. For instance to sell more headers means you have to buy more benders (see what one of those costs), hire more employees, pay more taxes, and so forth. There are other things like most of the header companies I know are always struggling to hire enough welders because there are only so many skilled ones.

And some things are inflexible and not subject to scales of ecomony. For instance, doubling business will not make your cost of labor do down. A header will still take the same time to weld, and the welder will make the same money per hour. The price of stainless steel is inflexible. Additionally, we have a government system that tightens regulations, and removes incentives as a business becomes bigger.

It becomes a game of deminishing returns. Think of it this way. Imagine you own a business, and someone told you they had a plan to double sales. However to double sales, you had to cut your profit margin in half, double your manufactuering staffing, invest $250K in machinery, and find a bigger building. Suddenly double sales becomes a loss.

Lastly throw in that this is a market largely governed by discretionary spending. I know every time gas goes up, or the government threatens to shut down, our sales go down with it. When you add a lot of overhead, that hurts your ability to rightsize to meet demand.

AMEN

[The SwiftChancelor]

People, who gives a crap if someone else wants OBX, ARH, Kooks, SW, MBS, or whatever. Its their right and decision to choose what they want. Its not your problem, if they fail they fail. Most of everyone is happy with whatever headers they chose so let them be happy. I don't ever read threads with people ragging on each other over the air intake they chose. I have Stainless Works' Chinese headers, Stainless Power and they work for me. Unless you read of constant problems with certain headers I would consider them all a good product, American or not.

[Ltdodge]

Originally Posted by The SwiftChancelor

People, who gives a crap if someone else wants OBX, ARH, Kooks, SW, MBS, or whatever. Its their right and decision to choose what they want. Its not your problem, if they fail they fail. Most of everyone is happy with whatever headers they chose so let them be happy. I don't ever read threads with people ragging on each other over the air intake they chose. I have Stainless Works' Chinese headers, Stainless Power and they work for me. Unless you read of constant problems with certain headers I would consider them all a good product, American or not.

[The SwiftChancelor]

Originally Posted by Ltdodge

Lets trade cars

[toml_pa]

I find it interesting that I have yet to see a thread where someone is sharing about their Kooks install and the OBX guys show up to rain on the parade. But mention an OBX install and it's like waving a red flag in front of a bull. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank MarylandSpeed for their header comparison thread. It was their dyno chart that convinced me to buy OBX headers. The average HP was the same and the few HP and lbs. of torque gains at 3200 RPMs certainly didn't justify another $700.00.



Thanks again MarylandSpeed.

[Avenging Orange]

Originally Posted by ewoolsey

I just wanna clearly state that I did not mean to offend anyone! I said something I shouldn't have said! I'm happy for all you kooks arh and stainless owners! Good for you guys sometime us OBX guys just need a little love

Dont give it a second thought. You offended no one.
Do not be afraid to post your thoughts, ideas, accompishments, etc on a public forum. This has been an issue for as long as I can remember. If you dont follow the leader, you are wrong. I dont recall anywhere in the early stages of this thread that anyone bashed kooks or arh, or stated they saved soooo much money or what an astranomical deal they got. I believe, like most of us, that you stated you were happy with your purchase and even offered help and input to others who purchased headers. Somehow I dont see that as offensive.
Again, enjoy your new toys!

[Ltdodge]

Originally Posted by The SwiftChancelor

Lets trade cars

nope, you have cheap SW chinese headers on your car......

[Mud]

People, who gives a crap

Obviously, quite a few people. The whole point of a forum is for discussion. Many have strong feelings one way or the other.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by LIM3

now how much longer could the high priced brands actually last ? thats a question worth answering. any idea any one ?

I'm putting my first set on my second Camaro. The first only had about 19000 miles on it, but except for the heat discolleration (which I like), there's no reason these wouldn't last a lifetime....what could wear out? I suppose the same could be said about OBX, but one of the posters already made me feel blessed that I made the choice of Kooks. Plus, take a look at the items for sale threads and you'll see used Kooks, American Racing and other headers made in USA selling for around $600-700. I've seen no used OBX headers up for sale so can't say. But, there may never be another problem with another set of OBXs...who knows.

I'm glad the OP is happy with his purchase and that he's making more HP for very little output....good job!

[ss/rs-matt]

Originally Posted by Erik@lashway

We carry the full line of OBX products...


Most folks on here have probably bought theirs from us. We are a stocking dealer of these products, and stand behind their fit, finish, and performance.

For the price, they cannot be beat. NO they are not made in the US, but for some they are a great fit for their budget!

Erik@Lashway

I can testify to this. I asked Erik about all the OBX bashing and he assured me that I would be happy with my headers. I'll admit I was a little worried that i had possibly just wasted $700 but when they arrived all my worries went away. In fact it was my excitement that drove me to start my OBX thread so I could share my excellent experience not only with Lashway Motorsports but with my new OBX's. I wanted to disprove all the negitive comments and nonsense with pictures and my first hand experience. When I first opened the box, I remember thinking, "what the hell is everyone talking about??" "these things are awesome!". Then I realized that most of the people who post negative comments in these OBX threads have never even seen a OBX header and have absolutely no clue what they are taking about...period. However, it is the internet and that makes EVERYONE an expert...lol.

Thanks again Erik for an awesome part and your standing behind what you sell.
Matt

[Avenging Orange]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

I'm putting my first set on my second Camaro. The first only had about 19000 miles on it, but except for the heat discolleration (which I like), there's no reason these wouldn't last a lifetime....what could wear out? I suppose the same could be said about OBX, but one of the posters already made me feel blessed that I made the choice of Kooks. Plus, take a look at the items for sale threads and you'll see used Kooks, American Racing and other headers made in USA selling for around $600-700. I've seen no used OBX headers up for sale so can't say. But, there may never be another problem with another set of OBXs...who knows.

I'm glad the OP is happy with his purchase and that he's making more HP for very little output....good job!

Haha! Ok, you walked into this one.....and I cant resist.
Maybe there is a reason there so may kooks/arh for sale.....
Everybody loves their OBX so much they wont part with em.

[Badbubba]

I can not control where GM sources it parts. But I can control where I source my parts.

[MarylandSpeed]

Originally Posted by Badbubba

I can not control where GM sources it parts. But I can control where I source my parts.

An important thing to remember too is GM has a very stringent quality control process for the parts it uses. They sell cars with 100,000 mile warranties, and more importantly, if some car parts fail, people die. Because of that, parts are scrutinized very highly for design flaws, and potential manufacturing defects. So even if GM uses parts that are made overseas, they are made to much higher standard than most aftermarket parts..even US made ones.