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BowtieBelle · 05-09-2012, 08:55 AM

OK, so let's review what I learned...

Number one-- I could not find a feasible way to reuse those two back fuel shield bolts. One would need to bend the fuel shield to get that to work properly. Given the tight space, I just wasn't going to fool with it.

Secondly-- it is MUCH easier to use the gasket maker to affix the ICE-olator to the intake manifold and then set the entire thing down on the engine rather than try to wiggle it into the correct place. Maybe there were concerns about port blockage, but I wasn't worried about it.

Thirdly-- it is REALLY important that you keep track of what bolts go where. I'd suggest tagging the ones that come out of the intake, because if you don't, you might be left pondering what goes where, which can make for a panic moment.

Fourth-- when you trim that foam at the back of the engine, cover up the cylinders with a sheet of paper or something so you don't drop foam into the cylinders and then have to use a shop-vac to get it out

Some pics:

hapisok · 05-09-2012, 09:00 AM

nice job...impressive :-)

nyrfan · 05-09-2012, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BowtieBelle

OK, so let's review what I learned...

Number one-- I could not find a feasible way to reuse those two back fuel shield bolts. One would need to bend the fuel shield to get that to work properly. Given the tight space, I just wasn't going to fool with it.

Secondly-- it is MUCH easier to use the gasket maker to affix the ICE-olator to the intake manifold and then set the entire thing down on the engine rather than try to wiggle it into the correct place. Maybe there were concerns about port blockage, but I wasn't worried about it.

Thirdly-- it is REALLY important that you keep track of what bolts go where. I'd suggest tagging the ones that come out of the intake, because if you don't, you might be left pondering what goes where, which can make for a panic moment.

Fourth-- when you trim that foam at the back of the engine, cover up the cylinders with a sheet of paper or something so you don't drop foam into the cylinders and then have to use a shop-vac to get it out

Some pics:

The 2 back bolts are not supposed to go back in. You should have had 3, if not 4 bolts left over. I had 4 becasue I remove the bracket to the TB.

Trimming, what did you trim? There was nothing to trim?

BowtieBelle · 05-09-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan

The 2 back bolts are not supposed to go back in. You should have had 3, if not 4 bolts left over. I had 4 becasue I remove the bracket to the TB.

Trimming, what did you trim? There was nothing to trim?

Yeah, there was some black foam in the back that the directions said you could trim for better fitment.

It did help make everything settle back more easily.

I did have 4 bolts left over after I removed the bracket to the TB

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Originally Posted by hapisok

nice job...impressive :-)

Thank you

I am just glad it's done.

nyrfan · 05-09-2012, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BowtieBelle

Yeah, there was some black foam in the back that the directions said you could trim for better fitment.

It did help make everything settle back more easily.

I did have 4 bolts left over after I removed the bracket to the TB

Thank you

I am just glad it's done.

Weird, mine fit with no issues.

Yes, good job!

chevy 3 · 05-09-2012, 09:15 AM

I had to trim the heat sheald so would fit. Mine wouldn't go back in without a big bend in it.

hapisok · 05-09-2012, 10:32 AM

some of the models require you to trim the foam insulation piece in order for the ice-olator to lay correctly. during initial fit testing, the insulation doesn't allow for the ice-olator to line up with the ports properly. but one attached to the IM, the ice-olator will line up as everything is bolted back together even without trimming. i think there are variances of the insulation piece as to why some people never see the issue with it during fit testing. just my .02

DAL123 · 05-09-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 67 GTO

If facing the motor the back bolts will turn out clockwise or pull the wrench to your right to loosen. If looking from inside the car it would be just the opposite. Counter-clockwise or pull the wrench left.

Hope it makes sense.

Ar'nt these just regularly threaded bolts or are you trying to say they are reverse thread? You should loosen them the same as any other bolt no?

nyrfan · 05-09-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DAL123

Ar'nt these just regularly threaded bolts or are you trying to say they are reverse thread? You should loosen them the same as any other bolt no?

Yes, they are regular bolts but you are doing it from the front of the bolts, kind of like in a mirror.

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pgustavson · 05-09-2012, 12:40 PM

There is no need to remember "lefty-loosey, righty-tighty"; "is the bolt going this way?"; "is it going that way?", etc... Just use the right-hand rule: hold your right hand with your thumb pointing out and your fingers curled (like you are hitch-hiking). The finger-curl shows the direction of the bolt turn, and the thumb shows the direction of bolt movement. Even if you flip your hand around, you can't be wrong. That means there's only one thing to remember, instead of four. Of course, this only holds for right-threaded bolts/screws. Here are two pics demonstrating what I mean:

Tighten

Loosen

nyrfan · 05-09-2012, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgustavson

There is no need to remember "lefty-loosey, righty-tighty"; "is the bolt going this way?"; "is it going that way?", etc... Just use the right-hand rule: hold your right hand with your thumb pointing out and your fingers curled (like you are hitch-hiking). The finger-curl shows the direction of the bolt turn, and the thumb shows the direction of bolt movement. Even if you flip your hand around, you can't be wrong. That means there's only one thing to remember, instead of four. Of course, this only holds for right-threaded bolts/screws. Here are two pics demonstrating what I mean:

Tighten

Loosen

I have to say I must be dumb cause I just don't get this

. I hope I'm not the only dummy here.

pgustavson · 05-09-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan

I have to say I must be dumb cause I just don't get this

. I hope I'm not the only dummy here.

No - you aren't dumb. I should have been clearer. Imagine an arrow starting at my knuckles and curling around to point at my fingernails. That arrow would be the direction that I intended to rotate the bolt with the wrench. Now imagine an arrow pointing along my thumb also toward the nail. That arrow shows the direction the bolt would move if I turned it in the direction that my fingers are showing.

I don't have any s/w that lets me draw the arrows...

pgustavson · 05-09-2012, 12:58 PM

I forgot about MS Paint:

05-09-2012, 08:55 AM	#43
BowtieBelle They see me trollin'... Drives: 217 ci of fury; Chauffeured by SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 13,875 View My Garage	OK, so let's review what I learned... Number one-- I could not find a feasible way to reuse those two back fuel shield bolts. One would need to bend the fuel shield to get that to work properly. Given the tight space, I just wasn't going to fool with it. Secondly-- it is MUCH easier to use the gasket maker to affix the ICE-olator to the intake manifold and then set the entire thing down on the engine rather than try to wiggle it into the correct place. Maybe there were concerns about port blockage, but I wasn't worried about it. Thirdly-- it is REALLY important that you keep track of what bolts go where. I'd suggest tagging the ones that come out of the intake, because if you don't, you might be left pondering what goes where, which can make for a panic moment. Fourth-- when you trim that foam at the back of the engine, cover up the cylinders with a sheet of paper or something so you don't drop foam into the cylinders and then have to use a shop-vac to get it out Some pics: Attached Images __________________ "Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff." -CamaroSpike 2011 Custom LT/RS: Bella's Build Thread

05-09-2012, 09:00 AM	#44
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	nice job...impressive :-) __________________

05-09-2012, 10:32 AM	#49
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	some of the models require you to trim the foam insulation piece in order for the ice-olator to lay correctly. during initial fit testing, the insulation doesn't allow for the ice-olator to line up with the ports properly. but one attached to the IM, the ice-olator will line up as everything is bolted back together even without trimming. i think there are variances of the insulation piece as to why some people never see the issue with it during fit testing. just my .02 __________________

05-09-2012, 12:40 PM	#53
pgustavson Stop writing "vert", ffs! Drives: 2011 2LT Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gambrills, MD Posts: 1,341 View My Garage	There is no need to remember "lefty-loosey, righty-tighty"; "is the bolt going this way?"; "is it going that way?", etc... Just use the right-hand rule: hold your right hand with your thumb pointing out and your fingers curled (like you are hitch-hiking). The finger-curl shows the direction of the bolt turn, and the thumb shows the direction of bolt movement. Even if you flip your hand around, you can't be wrong. That means there's only one thing to remember, instead of four. Of course, this only holds for right-threaded bolts/screws. Here are two pics demonstrating what I mean: Tighten Loosen __________________ Vararam \| Vmax Ported TB \| Ported IM \| Vmax Black ICE-olator

05-09-2012, 12:58 PM	#56
pgustavson Stop writing "vert", ffs! Drives: 2011 2LT Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gambrills, MD Posts: 1,341 View My Garage	I forgot about MS Paint: __________________ Vararam \| Vmax Ported TB \| Ported IM \| Vmax Black ICE-olator

05-09-2012, 09:15 AM	#48
chevy 3 NEcamaro5 Drives: Black 2ss rs 1LE Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: mass Posts: 4,329 View My Garage	I had to trim the heat sheald so would fit. Mine wouldn't go back in without a big bend in it.

05-09-2012, 12:12 PM	#52
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Belle gets it done better than some of the guys!!! Girls kick butt!!!