Livernois ZL1 first in the 9's!! 9.8@142.4

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby

4295 lbs raceweight and 142 mph calculates out to approximately 960 BHP, or somewhere in the neighborhood of 850-875 RWHP.

They definately had it on KILL at the track!

Originally Posted by hognutz

You just need to read instead of being a complainer/file in the______. They switched to race fuel and retuned at the track. there are no HP numbers for the run just the ET.

use you same pricipals you used to calculate that this is BS without reading all the information and it will probably give you ballpark on HP at the time of the run.

bottom line the car ran 9.84 with those mods, race gas, agressive track tune.

Originally Posted by jrrod6410

I'm also confused haha................



4300 # race weight
1.5x 60 ft time
6.41 1/8 mile
9.87 1/4 mile

and 14x mph traps...................

and only 700 rwhp......................

yeah right.........i call

maybe on a 1.2x 60 ft time, or with a 60 mph tailwind and -3000 d.a...................its got at least a 150 shot of dope as I mentioned in my first post but of course now its too late to admit lol

But hey if thats what you guys claim then so be it................just sayin the numbers dont add up

DOH!!

[Bob Cosby]

To be clear, I'm not implying anything - just stating my calculations. I take Livernois at their word, and have no problem believing them.

[Chris@Livernois]

Originally Posted by lunger13

A 1.5 reaction time is really Slow, imagine if you had a driver in the car what you could of done. I love the MODs and the car is scary fast. but seriously put a driver behind the wheel and run it :-)

Reaction time has no effect on ET. I knew it was on "murder" and it was going to be a great pass, so I was focusing.. LOL

I don't know if it would have lived to take another pass at the level it was at... but after the pass, we put the dyno file back in it and I took the car out later that night to play on the street a bit, then home and to a show in the AM and drivability is amazing.

Originally Posted by jrrod6410

I'm also confused haha................



4300 # race weight
1.5x 60 ft time
6.41 1/8 mile
9.87 1/4 mile

and 14x mph traps...................

and only 700 rwhp......................

yeah right.........i call

maybe on a 1.2x 60 ft time, or with a 60 mph tailwind and -3000 d.a...................its got at least a 150 shot of dope as I mentioned in my first post but of course now its too late to admit lol

But hey if thats what you guys claim then so be it................just sayin the numbers dont add up

Another shop that is well known on this site went low 10's at 139.9 without ported heads and who knows (besides them) how aggressive the tune was.

-Rick

[BigHemiSrt]

I fully understand boost. By adding headers,custom cam, and ported heads those are all mods that FLOW more which in turn will make you lose boost at the same rpm's of the blower (same size pulley). Now just bc boost is lost ppl tend to think so is HP which is not true.

So lets say the llittle 1.9 is capable of making 18lbs at its max rpms. Now with the free flowing mods it may be only making 15. Even tho it would still be making more power with the heads,cam, and headers i have NEVER heard of ANY car trapping 142 @ 15lbs with a tiny 1.9L blower. That tune isnt on murder its dead and buried and came straight from heaven! Lol

[VADER SS L99]

It's funny to me that alot of you guys are seriously butt hurt by the fact that Livernois ran 9's with so little. There really are alot of haters in the world that get worked up if their team's so called enemy does well. I give my sincere congrats to Livernois for doing this in 2 weeks with very little done. Like someone else said. You have no idea how much money and how many different parts it takes to run 9's in a full weight street car that has a starting MSRP under 60K.

Whoever is calling BS needs to do some research. 700RWHP is over 875 crank HP with that kind of trans/converter/rear end ect. Plus it was likely making more than this considering they put race gas in it at the track and turned up the timing. I seem to recall Supercharged SS making it into the 9's at full weight with a little over 700RWHP.

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by Rick@Livernois

Reaction time has no effect on ET. I knew it was on "murder" and it was going to be a great pass, so I was focusing.. LOL

I don't know if it would have lived to take another pass at the level it was at... but after the pass, we put the dyno file back in it and I took the car out later that night to play on the street a bit, then home and to a show in the AM and drivability is amazing.



Another shop that is well known on this site went low 10's at 139.9 without ported heads and who knows (besides them) how aggressive the tune was.

-Rick

that thing sounds like a monster what does it eat small children haha. One phenominal car you guys built there. Now next stop is 8's keep up the great work

[RoketRdr]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

I fully understand boost. By adding headers,custom cam, and ported heads those are all mods that FLOW more which in turn will make you lose boost at the same rpm's of the blower (same size pulley). Now just bc boost is lost ppl tend to think so is HP which is not true.

So lets say the llittle 1.9 is capable of making 18lbs at its max rpms. Now with the free flowing mods it may be only making 15. Even tho it would still be making more power with the heads,cam, and headers i have NEVER heard of ANY car trapping 142 @ 15lbs with a tiny 1.9L blower. That tune isnt on murder its dead and buried and came straight from heaven! Lol

You're making quite an assumption. Where did they state that the blower was making 15psi? They never told us what pulley was used nor what the boost level was. At this point its nothing but speculation to say it only made 15psi of boost. Could have been 25 for all we know. And yes this 1.9L blower has made over 20psi in CTS-V's and ZR1's with no issue. You keep making reference to the 'tiny little blower' which doesn't make sense because a blower of ANY size whether large or small means nothing unless the fuel system and tune can keep up with the additional air. I guess its safe to say that the 'tiny little blower', no matter what the boost was, is able to keep up with the existing fuel system with the fuel tables tuned on "murder" to put the car into the 9's at 142mph. Either a blower can produce enough air to burn the additional fuel or it cant. This one proved that it can so it doesn't look like a larger blower is needed with the existing fuel system that's on the car if you want to make roughly 900+hp at the crank. So yes...you HAVE heard of a car trapping 142mph with a 1.9L blower. You just refuse to believe it and have it stuck in your head that it could only possibly produce 15psi, which has been proven otherwise for several years.

For the record...the 1.9L blower used in the CTS-V, ZR1 and ZL1 uses a 4-lobe 160* design which is far more thermally efficient than conventional blowers and has almost the same power efficiency as a turbo. It dumps 2.3L of compressed air every revolution. Its not exactly a slouch for a 'tiny blower'.

[caliguy]

Nice run, but thread kinda leads to false advertisement LOL,

Delivered by Rodger’s Chevrolet 4-27-12 (yes, we’ve only had it 2 weeks!)
2012 ZL1 Auto trans - Full weight with exception of wheels/tires
100% stock suspension
Stock trans w/ Livernois specific trans calibration
Stock catback
4,295 lbs. with driver
240 Miles

then butt load of mods to motor, i think any new type of car can do this with stock apperance then add all the mods to motor and run that

I'm sure could of gone abit faster if driver didnt snooze at the line

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by caliguy

Nice run, but thread kinda leads to false advertisement LOL,


then butt load of mods to motor, i think any new type of car can do this with stock apperance then add all the mods to motor and run that

I'm sure could of gone abit faster if driver didnt snooze at the line

WTF?

[67motorcat]

Originally Posted by caliguy

Nice run, but thread kinda leads to false advertisement LOL,


then butt load of mods to motor, i think any new type of car can do this with stock apperance then add all the mods to motor and run that

I'm sure could of gone abit faster if driver didnt snooze at the line

Huh....snoozing at the line has NOTHING to do with E.T.'s...

Awesome work guys!!

[knitetrain05]

Next weeks big cover post. CAMARO DIPS INTO 8'S!! Oh boy Look at the ZL1, Its SO fast. Thats because I bought it brand new. Ripped it apart in my very own custom speed shop. made all my workers focus all their talent and know how on my "New factory" ZL1. Consulted with some others. Spent 50,000 on all the mods. Then I go on this site and say "Look, my new ZL1 will do this. Wow go buy one, youcan do this too!

What a Joke.

I just would love to hear how low Mr Anyjoe's stock Zl1 can go WITH OUT Spending your kids school money to see what will happen.

Or better yet, Its like this Go to the dealer ship back then and buy this car. Its the fastest in the world.....Its the best car..EVER

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by caliguy

Nice run, but thread kinda leads to false advertisement LOL,


then butt load of mods to motor, i think any new type of car can do this with stock apperance then add all the mods to motor and run that

I'm sure could of gone abit faster if driver didnt snooze at the line

Please enlighten us on which type of new car can do this that has a starting MSRP for around 55k and only has 15K total invested(including install and tunning by a quality shop)

[SixGracing]

Originally Posted by jrrod6410

I'm also confused haha................



4300 # race weight
1.5x 60 ft time
6.41 1/8 mile
9.87 1/4 mile

and 14x mph traps...................

and only 700 rwhp......................

yeah right.........i call

maybe on a 1.2x 60 ft time, or with a 60 mph tailwind and -3000 d.a...................its got at least a 150 shot of dope as I mentioned in my first post but of course now its too late to admit lol

But hey if thats what you guys claim then so be it................just sayin the numbers dont add up

Here are the weather and DA Specs for this run around noon that day if anyone is interested:

Milan Dragway:

Track Elevation: 593 Feet above sea level

Air Temp: 68 degrees

Barometer: 30.15

Humidity 32%

DA 1153'

Relative Density: 96.67 %

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

WTF?

X2.... Oh Lord... all these replies to Caliguy are cracking me up...