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Old 05-21-2012, 04:34 PM   #491
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you think all that will only equal 320rwhp?
only? thats 400 crank horsepower. Am I the only one that thinks that is just about insane for a N/A V6? lol
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:59 PM   #492
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If u have 400 to the crank ur not going to have 320 rear wheels...it's gonna be higher
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:29 PM   #493
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Depends on automatic or manual trans, but its safe to figure around a 15-20% loss through your power train. I do my estimating at 17%... 17% off 400 crank would be 332rwhp
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:29 PM   #494
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If u have 400 to the crank ur not going to have 320 rear wheels...it's gonna be higher
A manual will...an auto won't

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Depends on automatic or manual trans, but its safe to figure around a 15-20% loss through your power train. I do my estimating at 17%... 17% off 400 crank would be 332rwhp
I've looked at a crap ton of V6 dynos here, and pretty much every single one that looked legit had the auto at at least a 20% loss (which is how I got to the 400 crank number). Where as the manual is usually less...sometimes 15% but usually 16 or 17 %
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:59 PM   #495
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:47 PM   #496
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:54 PM   #497
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:41 PM   #498
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A manual will...an auto won't



I've looked at a crap ton of V6 dynos here, and pretty much every single one that looked legit had the auto at at least a 20% loss (which is how I got to the 400 crank number). Where as the manual is usually less...sometimes 15% but usually 16 or 17 %
Well....its going to be a mean 320 ill tell u that lol
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:43 PM   #499
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Lol guys I said 320 for the hell of it no real reason idk what all those mods would make
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:07 AM   #501
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With all these mods minus the cams,what are we looking at hp wise?
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:35 AM   #502
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With all these mods minus the cams,what are we looking at hp wise?
2011 comes stock with 312 to the crank plus like 15 for tune like 13 MAYBE for catback. 33 for headers. CAI 15 ported throttle body 7
395 to the crank Times .15 = 59.25 395-59
336rwhp
316Rwhp when 20%
can someone tell me if I'm Doing that wrong lol. Idk how I could be but that was what I got
(unless the description gave me an exact number I cut their estimation difference in half. Example RACING STRIPES ADD 15-20 horse power I subtracted them and divided the left number by to. And added it back to lowest number. 20-15=5/2 = 2.5+15 17.5 or 18)
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2011 comes stock with 312 to the crank plus like 15 for tune like 13 MAYBE for catback. 33 for headers. CAI 15 ported throttle body 7
395 to the crank Times .15 = 59.25 395-59
336rwhp
316Rwhp when 20%
can someone tell me if I'm Doing that wrong lol. Idk how I could be but that was what I got
(unless the description gave me an exact number I cut their estimation difference in half. Example RACING STRIPES ADD 15-20 horse power I subtracted them and divided the left number by to. And added it back to lowest number. 20-15=5/2 = 2.5+15 17.5 or 18)
there is a term thats been kicked around on here before called "ricer math". and that is where you add the HP gain of one mod with the gain of another (10+10=20). but in reality, the gain you see from a CAI claiming 15HP and a catback 5HP doesn't simply equate to a 20HP gain. overall, all you'd really see is a PEAK 15HP.

remember, not all mods provide a gain at peak HP, some are down low where the peak gain of 10HP is only recognized say between 2500RPM and 4000RPM. others (CAI for instance) don't show much of a gain till you get into the higher RPM between 4000-7000RPM. CAI's can actually drop you're low end HP/TQ, but that is another discussion.

simply put, mods aren't additive in the sense we'd like to think. the gains they (vendors) show are generally on a stock setup (because thats how they do their testing for the general public) and as you start stacking mods, the gain isn't going to be as dramatic of a number in comparison to the gains from a stock setup.

hope this makes sense.
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With all these mods minus the cams,what are we looking at hp wise?
The "dyno sticky" (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153186) has a bunch of dyno pull results for various set-ups that may give you an idea of HP gains. Just remember that those results are affected by a lot of factors, so it's hard to compare them to one another.
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