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COPO_Chevy · 03-10-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Emu the Foo

so is it:
base v6
ss v6???
base v8
ss v8?

does that make sense

sorry but the SS never was a v6 as far as i know...traditionally its been a v8 and i hope to god it stays that way...but well v6 with same or alittle less hp numbers as a v8 would b ok...for those buyers who want sport and the name but not a high insurance rate..but my guess is they'd name it the RS bfor SS..idk how much torque it would b able to produce though..probebly lower..but just the thought of SS as bing a v6 rubs me the rong way..all this is mho..

Omega94 · 03-10-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by COPO_Chevy

sorry but the SS never was a v6 as far as i know...traditionally its been a v8 and i hope to god it stays that way...but well v6 with same or alittle less hp numbers as a v8 would b ok...for those buyers who want sport and the name but not a high insurance rate..but my guess is they'd name it the RS bfor SS..idk how much torque it would b able to produce though..probebly lower..but just the thought of SS as bing a v6 rubs me the rong way..all this is mho..

I think that was his point...he was applying what mindz said:

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Originally Posted by Mindz

He said the base and the SS. Then he says v6. He didn't say the base camaro would be the v6. The way he worded it implies that the base v8 and SS v8 will be aside from the v6.

I'm under the impression the base v8 might not be the z28 but the SS won't be base v8 model.

just mho

All he did, was take what mindz said and apply it to a line-up, then asked...does that make sense? And it obviously doesn't make sense to you...and it doesn't make sense to me either. In fact, the thought of a V6 Camaro being termed "SS" makes me want to

...I think that if we all just take what Ed said...as face value...we'd all be better off. There will be an SS...there will be a V6, it will be powerful, it will get good gas mileage...that's all. OH...and the interior that we've seen, as we've seen it...won't be the interior that we have come time for production.

*GTAHVIT* · 03-10-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mega_man_01103

i agree. he said it so non chalantly (sp?).

Camaro V6 vs Mustang V6 vs challenger v6
SS vs GT vs R/T
z/28 vs GT500 vs SRT8

win for chevy on all counts!!!!!

I like the way you think!

Perfect rationalization.

LDiablo · 03-10-2008, 08:31 PM

This is great newSS.

All the back and forth about SS vs. Z28...

SS was the brute and Z28 was the special package for sports handling as was pointed out.

Seems that the Z28 was considered the top of the line, although SS396/427 trumped it. Then again, so did COPO, Yenko et al.

While my ALL-TIME fave is the Super Sport, I do acknowledge the option code for SS is Z27. Z28 literally came from the option code.

So why argue? Everyone can be happy. Or should I say "ecSStatic!"

COPO_Chevy · 03-10-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega94

I think that was his point...he was applying what mindz said:

All he did, was take what mindz said and apply it to a line-up, then asked...does that make sense? And it obviously doesn't make sense to you...and it doesn't make sense to me either. In fact, the thought of a V6 Camaro being termed "SS" makes me want to

...I think that if we all just take what Ed said...as face value...we'd all be better off. There will be an SS...there will be a V6, it will be powerful, it will get good gas mileage...that's all. OH...and the interior that we've seen, as we've seen it...won't be the interior that we have come time for production.

ah i understand now, thanx.

and sorry Emu

but ya im wondering at wat the interior will look like..when i heard that in one of the other threads i was like wow kool..then wen he said its better than the concepts i was like

no way...

*GTAHVIT* · 03-10-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega94

I think that was his point...he was applying what mindz said:

All he did, was take what mindz said and apply it to a line-up, then asked...does that make sense? And it obviously doesn't make sense to you...and it doesn't make sense to me either. In fact, the thought of a V6 Camaro being termed "SS" makes me want to

...I think that if we all just take what Ed said...as face value...we'd all be better off. There will be an SS...there will be a V6, it will be powerful, it will get good gas mileage...that's all. OH...and the interior that we've seen, as we've seen it...won't be the interior that we have come time for production.

He also said. "Big Motor V8 version" I'm not sure how that applies to all the SS Z28 talk, but worth considering at face value?

CaptianSam · 03-10-2008, 10:52 PM

ed drove tha car on a track... how do we not pics of this lol
putting more then one v8 engine would probably drive costs further up... try not to expect too much... expect a ss v8 and maybe a z28 has the same engine with different handling and options... sort of like forth gens

*Mindz* · 03-10-2008, 11:06 PM

To clarify my theory, from what Ed said in the video...

"Everyone's expecting a great v8 power and all that, and that is true, you know? And we'll have the base vehicle and the SS model and all that. But even the V6 will have great power..."

It seems as though he's talking about v8's while he's mentioning the base and SS. THEN he switches to talk about the v6. That's why I was thinking this:

Camaro (v6)
Base v8 (v8)
SS Camaro (v8)

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-10-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindz

To clarify my theory, from what Ed said in the video...

"Everyone's expecting a great v8 power and all that, and that is true, you know? And we'll have the base vehicle and the SS model and all that. But even the V6 will have great power..."

It seems as though he's talking about v8's while he's mentioning the base and SS. THEN he switches to talk about the v6. That's why I was thinking this:

Camaro (v6)
Base v8 (v8)
SS Camaro (v8)

Excellent catch, Mindz!!!! I totally missed that tone, and context!

So...perhaps he didn't slip. Everyone's expecting an SS...but he may have disclosed where in the lineup that is: The "Top Dog". Now as for whether or not the 'base model' will be called Z28...is another story. They HAVE to have a Z28...they have to. It wouldn't be Camaro without it.

So...conversation: Go!

(And if any of what I just said sound like it goes against what I've said earlier in the thread....that's because it does. I heard him wrong the first time through the Video - and after going back through it thanks to Mindz - I've changed my mind a little.

)

Jeff · 03-10-2008, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindz

To clarify my theory, from what Ed said in the video...

"Everyone's expecting a great v8 power and all that, and that is true, you know? And we'll have the base vehicle and the SS model and all that. But even the V6 will have great power..."

It seems as though he's talking about v8's while he's mentioning the base and SS. THEN he switches to talk about the v6. That's why I was thinking this:

Camaro (v6)
Base v8 (v8)
SS Camaro (v8)

That seems right to me, thats how I interpreted it as well anyways. By him saying base V8 I'm thinking thats the Z\28? If he is referring to the base V8 as not the SS then I'm thinking whats going to be the difference between the two V8's? Or the SS and Z\28 anyways.

*GTAHVIT* · 03-10-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

That seems right to me, thats how I interpreted it as well anyways. By him saying base V8 I'm thinking thats the Z\28? If he is referring to the base V8 as not the SS then I'm thinking whats going to be the difference between the two V8's? Or the SS and Z\28 anyways.

+1 or +2 if you count mindz... and +3 for Dragon....

I'll stop now

stovt001 · 03-10-2008, 11:53 PM

Based on this interview, I'm predicting the Z28 will be the base V8, and the SS will be the top. I'm guess he was careful to say "base V8" instead of Z28, but then he slipped and said SS when he meant to say "top level V8". That's just my prediction. When you think about it, the lineup most people have fresh in their head is the 4th gen, which had a V6, and Z28 as the base V8, and an SS with an upgraded V8.

You know, if you look at the Mustang, the GT500 is not a great handler. A lot of special editions based more off of the GT handle a lot better. So its possible that even with the base V8, the Z28 will still handle just as well, if not better. Now that would be staying true to heritage.

With all this talk about making sure the V6 is great, I'm more tempted than ever to go for that if its good. I'll still probably get the base V8, because I just want that V8 rumble and torque, but lower price, better insurance, and better gas mileage with still good performance is tempting. Now when I assumed it wouldn't have a good suspension or good features I had an easier time justifying getting the V8, but if the V6 handles real nice and comes with good features and options too, it will be tougher.

And with the interior comments, well he just set the bar real high. Good luck with that one.

Well, thanks Ed. If you're going to end your career saying something you shouldn't, at least you made us happy. JK I'm sure you're fine. As mentioned before, Scott will take care of this...

blindingillusion · 03-11-2008, 12:05 AM

surprised Scott hasn't chimed in on this one yet to say he was just generalizing or something.

VTXrider · 03-11-2008, 01:03 AM

This all takes me back to my original thoughts that there will be 1 v6 and two v8s. I am not sure how somewhere on this board I got convinced there would be 2 v6 and 1 v8. That just does not make sense for a camaro the Z/28 and SS both need to have v8s. I do not think there will be 4 engines offered so only one v6. As to which is the top dog, I like the Z/28 name plate better, actually I wish the IROC could come back but allass the can not happen. Chevy is not going to spend the money on the rights for it and they have already lost in court for using the name the first time. But back to reality, go to the chevy website and click around. What do you see???

The SS is always the Top Dog for ALL Chevys. SS is the top dag just like when Cadillac brought out the CTS there was no question top dog will be the V with Chevy the top dog is the SS.

Next when does it come out, unfortunatly I do not think the SS is out from the start, V6 and base Z/28 will come out. The later the convertable and the SS come out. One thing I think alot of people are missing here is both the later convertable and the SS are still first model year 2010 cars just like the first ones out. If you think you will wait for the second year car as I have heard some say that means wait in about 19 months after introductio assumeing the first ones are out in January 2009 as a 2010 and the second model year 2011 comes out in late September of 2010. Cadillac brings out new models on Sept 21 if there are no major changes, atleast the used to, I don't know if chevy has a date.

03-10-2008, 08:31 PM	#74
LDiablo Z27 Enthusiast Drives: 2007 Silverado Crew Cab 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waco Posts: 23	SSweet This is great newSS. All the back and forth about SS vs. Z28... SS was the brute and Z28 was the special package for sports handling as was pointed out. Seems that the Z28 was considered the top of the line, although SS396/427 trumped it. Then again, so did COPO, Yenko et al. While my ALL-TIME fave is the Super Sport, I do acknowledge the option code for SS is Z27. Z28 literally came from the option code. So why argue? Everyone can be happy. Or should I say "ecSStatic!"

03-10-2008, 10:52 PM	#77
CaptianSam Car Garage Drives: 350z,A4,SRT8...see sig Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: north west Posts: 830	ed drove tha car on a track... how do we not pics of this lol putting more then one v8 engine would probably drive costs further up... try not to expect too much... expect a ss v8 and maybe a z28 has the same engine with different handling and options... sort of like forth gens __________________ 2012 2SS RS Ordered Black on Black 6 speed Coupe Artic Lid Stripes Yes I Supercharge Everything On My Ipad Xbox McLovin1515 Ps3 McLovin1555 Current Autos:68z28,03viperSRT10,04escalade,05RangeRoverSport SC Project Autos:80corvette350-500hp 6speed,06charger S'C 6-speed posi,74Firebird400blue,69chevelle572 707 New Autos:2012CamaroSSRS,09ChallengerSRT8 Past Autos:....too many to list "i told you it was gettin' an LS3" Go down deep enough into anything and you will find mathematics. Dean Schlicter B.Sc. Hons. Mathematics Last edited by CaptianSam; 03-10-2008 at 11:03 PM.

03-10-2008, 11:06 PM	#78
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,420	To clarify my theory, from what Ed said in the video... "Everyone's expecting a great v8 power and all that, and that is true, you know? And we'll have the base vehicle and the SS model and all that. But even the V6 will have great power..." It seems as though he's talking about v8's while he's mentioning the base and SS. THEN he switches to talk about the v6. That's why I was thinking this: Camaro (v6) Base v8 (v8) SS Camaro (v8) __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

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03-10-2008, 11:53 PM	#82
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	Based on this interview, I'm predicting the Z28 will be the base V8, and the SS will be the top. I'm guess he was careful to say "base V8" instead of Z28, but then he slipped and said SS when he meant to say "top level V8". That's just my prediction. When you think about it, the lineup most people have fresh in their head is the 4th gen, which had a V6, and Z28 as the base V8, and an SS with an upgraded V8. You know, if you look at the Mustang, the GT500 is not a great handler. A lot of special editions based more off of the GT handle a lot better. So its possible that even with the base V8, the Z28 will still handle just as well, if not better. Now that would be staying true to heritage. With all this talk about making sure the V6 is great, I'm more tempted than ever to go for that if its good. I'll still probably get the base V8, because I just want that V8 rumble and torque, but lower price, better insurance, and better gas mileage with still good performance is tempting. Now when I assumed it wouldn't have a good suspension or good features I had an easier time justifying getting the V8, but if the V6 handles real nice and comes with good features and options too, it will be tougher. And with the interior comments, well he just set the bar real high. Good luck with that one. Well, thanks Ed. If you're going to end your career saying something you shouldn't, at least you made us happy. JK I'm sure you're fine. As mentioned before, Scott will take care of this...

03-11-2008, 01:03 AM	#84
VTXrider Drives: 2010 RY 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 828	This all takes me back to my original thoughts that there will be 1 v6 and two v8s. I am not sure how somewhere on this board I got convinced there would be 2 v6 and 1 v8. That just does not make sense for a camaro the Z/28 and SS both need to have v8s. I do not think there will be 4 engines offered so only one v6. As to which is the top dog, I like the Z/28 name plate better, actually I wish the IROC could come back but allass the can not happen. Chevy is not going to spend the money on the rights for it and they have already lost in court for using the name the first time. But back to reality, go to the chevy website and click around. What do you see??? The SS is always the Top Dog for ALL Chevys. SS is the top dag just like when Cadillac brought out the CTS there was no question top dog will be the V with Chevy the top dog is the SS. Next when does it come out, unfortunatly I do not think the SS is out from the start, V6 and base Z/28 will come out. The later the convertable and the SS come out. One thing I think alot of people are missing here is both the later convertable and the SS are still first model year 2010 cars just like the first ones out. If you think you will wait for the second year car as I have heard some say that means wait in about 19 months after introductio assumeing the first ones are out in January 2009 as a 2010 and the second model year 2011 comes out in late September of 2010. Cadillac brings out new models on Sept 21 if there are no major changes, atleast the used to, I don't know if chevy has a date.