MotorTrend Pits the ZL1 vs GT500 on the Street, Dragstrip, and Racetrack

[A-little-perspective]

Originally Posted by SlingShot

IMO the Shelby wouldn't have the numbers it has if it weren't for the ZL1.

So what car is going to get credit for the 1LE numbers?

[SlingShot]

Originally Posted by A-little-perspective

So what car is going to get credit for the 1LE numbers?

Same engine and power of the LS3/SS, and your point ?

[PQ]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

Just my guess -- may not be correct... I think plenty around here have seen enough of your posts to know you weren't trying to incite anything and were in fact just stating your unbiased thoughts on what is clearly an easily excitable topic.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by hognutz

the fact it made up ground in ever sequence with a turn leads me to believe the suspension is supperior.

once the track straitens out though 82hp is 82hp.

if the camaro's suspension was not superior this would have been a 2-3 second desctrution.

I think one could argue the TP/PP car is more car. it is 5.5k more in my case though. so is it worth the 5.5k?

No doubt.

Auto cross the ZL1 should be the easy winner.

[DanSS24]

I would love to have both cars...they're great performing cars. But the wife was watching the video with me when I made that comment and she said "hell no...F^&* the mustang, there will be no mustang in my garage", She loves how the Camaro front end looks now. I guess have to find a way to buy it and hide it. I really want both.

[Blue Menace]

Originally Posted by rez333

Good point, but I wished that the journalist would have said this as part of his conclusion rather than let us infer it. The video sounded like Randy said one thing, and the journalist goes and concludes something completely different.

Well, he IS a journalist. They're not known for being factual.

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

IMO the Shelby wouldn't have the numbers it has if it weren't for the ZL1.

Originally Posted by PQ

Simply KNOWING that GM was building the ZL1 is, by default, a reason to up their game.

Neither one is the cause for the '13 Shelby GT500 numbers. The real reason the GT500 has its numbers now is because of the Boss 302.

[A-little-perspective]

Originally Posted by SlingShot

Same engine and power of the LS3/SS, and your point ?

My point is you are taking credit away from Ford for the GT500 and giving it all to the ZL1. If that were the case then Ford should be getting all the credit for the 1LE because had the Boss not been made there would be no need for a 1LE.

[SlingShot]

Originally Posted by A-little-perspective

My point is you are taking credit away from Ford for the GT500 and giving it all to the ZL1. If that were the case then Ford should be getting all the credit for the 1LE because had the Boss not been made there would be no need for a 1LE.

LOL ... TBH I kinda forgot all about the Boss, good point though.

[SlingShot]

Originally Posted by Loading.....

Neither one is the cause for the '13 Shelby GT500 numbers. The real reason the GT500 has its numbers now is because of the Boss 302.

I really don't see that as the reason, one was rated at 440 and the other at 550 already.

[silverds]

Well it seems that only one thing is going to truly and finally decide which of these two cars is the real winner.

The ability to avoid the telephone pole.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Loading.....

Neither one is the cause for the '13 Shelby GT500 numbers. The real reason the GT500 has its numbers now is because of the Boss 302.

If there were no Camaro then the Boss may not have those numbers either.

Simple fact is without the other pushing them they wouldn't get so powered up.

And there is no way in hell the 302 made the GT500 come with 650+. NO way. Those numbers were in anticipation of the rival car. Which is the Camaro big boy.

Ford isn't competing with it's self. Not sure if you realize there is actually a rival to the Stang that is the Camaro, I assume you do know since you found the site here, but the Camaro has LOTS to do with Fords numbers on the Mustang.

Oh, and welcome to the site.

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

I really don't see that as the reason, one was rated at 440 and the other at 550 already.

If my memory serves me correct - the performance gap between the '12 Boss and '12 GT500 was minimum. Buyers couldn't justify the extra money for the GT500. So the SVT team set out to increase that gap of performance between the two. Thus, the '13 GT500 numbers.

[VenomenonSVT]

Originally Posted by acamellis

So the new GT500 is Ford's new bad boy, correct? So why compare it to GM's third or fourth meanest car and not the ZR-1? I mean to be completely fair... manufacturer vs. manufacturer.

Because the GT500 was NEVER meant to be compared, raced, or thrown towards the Corvette. ANY of them. . . So how does this make Ford a lesser company by NOT making a Super Car? . .Perhaps they don't want to. . Hmmm, I don't know? Be saved by the government? So this makes your argument invalid. . By the way, Ford has the worlds fastest 0-60, 0-100, and 1/4 mile times in a production car thanks to the Super Cobra Jet. . . So come again please. . .

[DanSS24]

This is going to go on and on and on....

Let me ask...Is anyone here that is only bench racing (if this or if that) going to buy either one of these cars? And if you are, are you really going to leave it stock...no mods what so ever...not even a CAI or tune? When I buy my ZL1, and I got the "Ok" from my wife, I know i'm going to mod the hell out of my car. No car or race enthusiast is ever going to leave their car stock. Only the collector will. So all this talk of if this or if that is really a moot point already. Buy the car you want and mod the hell out of it. Who cares about a warranty anyway.