Seat Belt Chime

[MrGood]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I did not read thru the entire thread -and I am HOPING that the O.P. wears his/her seatbelt at all times.....
............... but I will add my comments......

1. It is illegal to disconnect the seat belt warning chime in the United States.....

2. Seatbelt usage is somewhat controversial - yes, there will always be that ONE PERSON who knows someone who knows of a friend who knows someone that was in an accident and had they been wearing a seatbelt, they'd be in the Great Chevy Showroom in the sky. Frankly, that is a one in a million happening. The data far surpasses any argument that NOT wearing a seatbelt MIGHT POSSIBLY save your life..........

A couple of things to consider.

Let's assume you are NOT wearing a seatbelt......and you hit something at speed. Your body wants to 'submarine' -- meaning that it wants to slide UNDER the dash.......that's how people really get banged up. You NEED the seatbelt to hold you in position so that the airbags can do their jobs...........

Now - let's assume you're in a roll-over - your body wants to go thru the openings (windows, windshield) - and the likelihood is that you're going to get rolled over by the car.........OR - thrown at a very high velocity into something -be it the ground, a tree, another car - you name it.

Now - some say "........yeah - well, seatbelts are UNCOMFORTABLE......"

LET ME ASSURE you that living in a wheelchair for the rest of your life is more uncomfortable.


And finally - stop thinking of yourself and consider what it does to your family and friends when you are killed - or worse yet - you are an invalid for the rest of your life............

Sorry if I sound "preachy" - but I have seen FIRSTHAND what happens to drivers and passengers who have NOT been wearing a seatbelt.........and trust me - it never ends well! So I will continue to preach.........and preach.............and preach..........and preach..........

And you know why?


BECAUSE I CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU!!!!


Now!!! Buckle up or:

Btw my girlfriends uncle has completely demolished two corvettes and was told on scene had he been wearing his seatbelt he would have been killed near instantly. After seeing the picture I firmly believe it. However. When you see my car doing 140+ down the road. You bet your ass i'm wearing a seatbelt lol.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by tys2010camaro

Dude,
I knew they were going to nuke you when i read your thread. A lot of idiots just want to try and be funny without knowing your situation. I have a roll cage with harneses and asked the same question as i don't need the factory belts plus they are in the way.

Do you really think the OP that started this thread has a roll cage in his 1LT RS? PLUS, if you would have read this thread instead of trying to bash it, you would have realized that YOU yourself has already said that.

Remember???

Originally Posted by tys2010camaro

I feel bad for you man!!! you asked a simple question and all you mainly received were opionions!!!! NO HELP!!! we need a forum so goody two shoes give only opionions and a forum for people that just want a simple answer! I am asking the same question on two forums here. I ordered my 5 point roll cage from RPMROLLBAR here on the group discount. KILLER DEAL by the way. I just received my 5 point Harnesses. I don't need the factory seat belt! i need to eliminate the buzzer and light. My 5 point harness gives a great deal more safety than a stock seat belt. So PLEASE restrain from a power point presentation on seat belt safety. Thanks.
Now for the simple question: Does anybody know how to eliminate the seat belt buzzer and light. Thank you for your help.

Originally Posted by MrGood

Btw my girlfriends uncle has completely demolished two corvettes and was told on scene had he been wearing his seatbelt he would have been killed near instantly. After seeing the picture I firmly believe it. However. When you see my car doing 140+ down the road. You bet your ass i'm wearing a seatbelt lol.

Cause the guys that told him that were experts in the field of car crash safety right?

[MrGood]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Do you really think the OP that started this thread has a roll cage in his 1LT RS? PLUS, if you would have read this thread instead of trying to bash it, you would have realized that YOU yourself has already said that.

Remember???








Cause the guys that told him that were experts in the field of car crash safety right?

It doesn't take a damn expert to look at pictures and see there was nothing left of the car.

[Kman 2011 ss]

Originally Posted by E.T.

You need to plug an old Nintendo controller into the car's computer, then very carefully enter the following code:

LMAO!

[MARINE1991]

I dont condone not wereing a seatbelt, but just saying I have seen metal fobs not sure what they are called, that look like the end of the seat belt that snaps in and you keep it in there to stop the ding. seen them at a performance shop. not sure why they had them there... it just look like the end of the seat belt metal pieace..

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by MrGood

It doesn't take a damn expert to look at pictures and see there was nothing left of the car.

Oh, I apologize. So that means the seat belt was for sure going to kill him. How dare those big evil car companies put those death trap seat belts in every car for the last 100 years! What were they thinking! You've made a believer out of me man. I'm going out to the garage now to cut all of the seat belts out of my cars.

[jmaynard]

Originally Posted by ron10

if you don't wear a seat belt,just attach it behind your back.

Holy cr.... DO NOT DO THIS!!! Seatbelts are to keep you in the car and properly positioned in the event of an accident. There is documented proof that they save lives.

I mean, if the pros in NASCAR use belts dont you think all us amateurs should wear them too??

To be stupid and try to disable one of the most impoetant safety features ot the car is...well stupid. These things work and you need to use them.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

It's an automatic thing for me wearing a seat belt and I don't mind. You can get pulled over for it so it's a rule in my vehicles. I always liked how it felt getting in an accident wearing one a little better than without. I've experienced both.

I like how the car rats out my passenger by dinging if they don't buckle up.

I'm no preacher though, why bother? I don't care what you do in your own car, just don't litter and stay off my butt.

[nikitis]

Okay guys. I know this is an old thread, but still relevant. I'm going to disagree with 95% of you here and I will give my reasons why. I will also tell you how to remove the chime, but please read my whole post before making a decision.

Despite what the law is. The below are FACTS, and studies have been done since laws passing.

Seat Belts. I'm old enough to have been driving in cars without seat belts. And I've seen some pretty gruesome coverups about how seat belts can also kill you. They don't advertise these incidents because seat belts can save lives as well. Maybe more so than not. That depends on what kind of driver you are. But a good example of seat belt killing people are T-Bone accidents. If a Car or Tractor Trailer hits your driver side door directly, it's not the impact that necessarily kills you. It's you being trapped in your seat belt, and your body needing to move but cannot, thus literally squishing your internal organs and dying. The laws of physics demand that the force go somewhere, if your body is stationary that's where it goes. To your organs. Not to say your chances are still great that you will survive without a seatbelt, but are much higher in those circumstances.

Wrecks where fires break out and you are unconscious from the wreck. Someone sees you in a car that's on fire and already flaming. It's gonna be hard enough for that person to rescue you out of your car with hot flames, but if you got a seatbelt on, it's gonna be harder still for him to unbuckle you and get you out. With searing flames being so hot sometimes people have to just let you burn. They can only go in for a split second to grab a human body, if they have to take time to unbuckle you, Well you can imagine the situation.

Knowing these facts. There are people out there who legitimately believe that seat belts can be just as dangerous as having them. Now

Seat belts can save lives yes. There are plenty of head on collisions where seat belts save lives. Seat belts were in fact developed for the sole fact of saving one from head on collisions, meaning you running straight head long into something, some car, or some object, and preventing you from flying foward. They do NOT save you from Side collisions, they are more likely to kill you in these events.

Rear end collisions. Seat belts do practically nothing in the event of a rear collision. When you are rear ended your body pushes into the seat more, not the other way around. I have personally been in the back of a Ford Focus, stopped at a traffic light, and rear ended by a suburban going 50 Miles an hour because the lady wasn't paying attention. My car skidded 100 feet across the intersection. I was not wearing my seat belt in the back, but I did not go anywhere but into the seat I was already sitting on. In otherwords, it would not have mattered if I was wearing it or not. I had a slight back injury from this but this occured to the other person as well who was wearing his seat belt in the back with me. Ultimately we were fine.

Now having said the indisputable FACTS! This is America, and our founding father Thomas Jefferson said regarding laws that are unjust. "Not only should we disobey any unjust laws, but it should be considered our duty to do so!"

Now is a seat belt law requiring all of us to wear our seatbelts considered unjust? It is there to save your lives from head on collisions and probably will do so. But I think the heart of situation where people who do not want to wear it have 1 of 2 ideas in their head.

1.) They are Lazy. I can relate. I sometimes just plain forget to put it on. This is where the chime comes in. It's a simple reminder. Except that it's not a simple reminder. Here is the problem I have with the chime, and that everyone else who wants this removed has with the chime.
a.) A reminder should happen only once. If at that point in time I "CHOOSE" to ignore the reminder, that is my choice. Does the chime stop after the first time? NO IT DOES NOT! It instead begins to annoyingly continue to chime in every few minutes until seatbelt is put in thus causing distractions. This is a problem for a couple of reasons.
1.) It's my own damn car. I'm paying for it, and I do not want this feature in my car. I would be okay with it if it only reminded me once and then I decided to put it on or not, but it doesn't do this. It's like my car is TELLING me what to do, and I'm sorry but "I" control the car, not the other way around.
2.) It's now more annoying because now while driving, people tend to put their seat belt on while driving thus taking their eyes off of the road. Yes they should have put it on before taking off, but now I'm on the highway with no shoulder so I attempt to put it on. I could wreck because I've now taken my eyes off of the road.

2.) Some people are good drivers. And in an attempt to not be vague, I will define a good driver. A "Good Driver" is someone who is alert at ALL times and is not distracted from what is in front of him. We all know people sometimes tend to look away even for a split second because what was in front of them at a distance looked clear, but then something comes from out of nowhere to cause the head on collision. Well I can tell you there are about 15% of drivers out there who never do this. When I get behind the wheel of a car that is moving at speeds that can kill you, I personally do not look away for nothing. My kid in the back seat can be screaming bloody murder, and I will not look away. I will pull over like a responsible person and fix the problem. People like me can with 100% certainty always be alert and watching the road. If you are one of these people you do not need the seat belt because you will always know what's in front of you avoiding head on collisions. 85% of you out there however do occasionally look away even if it's for a split second. 95% of the time looking away for a split second will not cause a wreck. but 5% of the times it does. Now 5% may not seem like much, but think about how often you drive. Eventually within a 10 year span, you will land on that 5% at the roll of a dice and get in a wreck. And the seat belt saved your life. Many of you can attest to having had this happen to you or been very close and having to slam on breaks having a close call. Don't lie to yourself, this happens to some people.

Because of these odds, the government decided to make seat belts the law. It's not 100% certain seat belts will save your lives. Do some actual research as I have, and stop being sheep and saying it is guaranteed to save your life because everyone else says it will. You only make those with brains become convinced the world is full of stupid people. And seat belts can also cause deaths.

So I would say that if you are one of those drivers who NEVER looks away from what's ahead of you and do not want to wear the seatbelt. You are a free citizen of America. If you feel this law is unjust for the reasons above then by all means it's your duty to disobey it. And I don't think a car should be telling YOU what to do. You tell the car what to do!

If however you are one of these guys who do occasionally look away, I would wear the belt as your odds are slightly higher of surviving than not. Don't lie to yourselves. Only you know if you look away, lying to yourself will only cause death or injury to you someday.


***** DISCLAIMER *****
Doing this does cause the airbag to open more quickly if you do get into a head on collision and is MORE DANGEROUS! (Car makers should consider people like me who are doing this and redesign the chime to only remind them once.) The reason for this is, the car believes electronically you are in your seatbelt, (but in reality you are not physically in the seatbelt)the air bag is programmed to open more quickly because it assumes the seatbelt will slow your forward momentum, except that you will not be slowed. The impact from a faster air bag without a seatbelt can cause neck and back injuries, and even death. Before modification if you were not wearing your seatbelt the air bag comes at the person slower as it comes out to make up for you not wearing your seat belt. It is definitely *MORE DANGEROUS* if you do wreck and do this trick. I will not be held accountable should you chose of your own free will to do this. It is your OWN CHOICE. But for scientific reasons and freedom of choice, it will get rid of the chime forever. Remember, it is your choice! I take no responsibility for your actions.

Now to remove the chime for those of us who believe in a free non communist America and freewill . How this works is you take your female seat belt connecter down by your hip. You need to have the key in your car, with the power turned on but not the engine. (you can have the engine on, try this if the other one doesn't work. Take apart the casing of this component, it will reveal the inside of the seatbelt components. There will be an odd copper/brass filament looking object that slides downwards as you buckle the seat belt. If you buckle the male seatbelt into the female part while the casing is off, you can see how this process works by watching the filament slide downwards. It will push that copper/brass filament downwards as the seat belt is buckled. This filament is conductive and provides a static unchanging signal to the cars computer that the seatbelt is buckled. This stores a value in the cars computer to 1 meaning buckled. IF you then while the car is on, remove this filament in it's down state without sliding it back up, will ALWAYS stay in a state of buckled = 1 even after physically unbuckling it. You can then turn the car off, back on, it will always remain in a buckled state, and the chime will never sound again! Keep this filament somewhere safe because it's small and you will lose it otherwise in case you ever want to reinstall it. If the fillament moves back up while removing it, it will send the car buckled = 0 and it will chime. Keep the filament because if you ever have to change the battery or the computer gets reset somehow due to electrical problems you will need to do this trick again. I did this in another car I own and it's been 4 years without the chime. If you lose the filament you can use a small copper wire and emulate the filament by dragging it downwards. Just watch for flashing jack to go away. There is also a sensor in the seats to detect if you are sitting down or not, so if you do not see flashing jack, sit down without the seatbelt, it should come on, slide the filament down, and then remove. (Maybe forcefully.) It will remain in buckled = 1 state meaning on forever or until the computer resets from battery pull or electrical problems.

There you have it! Good luck to you, and remember YOU make the choice by doing this. I only provided the knowledge and facts on the whole situation. You can chose to disagree or not, but these are the facts. Indisputable.

[Firefighter]

Originally Posted by nikitis

Okay guys. I know this is an old thread, but still relevant. I'm going to disagree with 95% of you here and I will give my reasons why. I will also tell you how to remove the chime, but please read my whole post before making a decision.

Despite what the law is. The below are FACTS, and studies have been done since laws passing.

Seat Belts. I'm old enough to have been driving in cars without seat belts. And I've seen some pretty gruesome coverups about how seat belts can also kill you. They don't advertise these incidents because seat belts can save lives as well. Maybe more so than not. That depends on what kind of driver you are. But a good example of seat belt killing people are T-Bone accidents. If a Car or Tractor Trailer hits your driver side door directly, it's not the impact that necessarily kills you. It's you being trapped in your seat belt, and your body needing to move but cannot, thus literally squishing your internal organs and dying. The laws of physics demand that the force go somewhere, if your body is stationary that's where it goes. To your organs. Not to say your chances are still great that you will survive without a seatbelt, but are much higher in those circumstances.

Wrecks where fires break out and you are unconscious from the wreck. Someone sees you in a car that's on fire and already flaming. It's gonna be hard enough for that person to rescue you out of your car with hot flames, but if you got a seatbelt on, it's gonna be harder still for him to unbuckle you and get you out. With searing flames being so hot sometimes people have to just let you burn. They can only go in for a split second to grab a human body, if they have to take time to unbuckle you, Well you can imagine the situation.

Knowing these facts. There are people out there who legitimately believe that seat belts can be just as dangerous as having them. Now

Seat belts can save lives yes. There are plenty of head on collisions where seat belts save lives. Seat belts were in fact developed for the sole fact of saving one from head on collisions, meaning you running straight head long into something, some car, or some object, and preventing you from flying foward. They do NOT save you from Side collisions, they are more likely to kill you in these events.

Rear end collisions. Seat belts do practically nothing in the event of a rear collision. When you are rear ended your body pushes into the seat more, not the other way around. I have personally been in the back of a Ford Focus, stopped at a traffic light, and rear ended by a suburban going 50 Miles an hour because the lady wasn't paying attention. My car skidded 100 feet across the intersection. I was not wearing my seat belt in the back, but I did not go anywhere but into the seat I was already sitting on. In otherwords, it would not have mattered if I was wearing it or not. I had a slight back injury from this but this occured to the other person as well who was wearing his seat belt in the back with me. Ultimately we were fine.

Now having said the indisputable FACTS! This is America, and our founding father Thomas Edison said regarding laws that are unjust. "Not only should we disobey any unjust laws, but it should be considered our duty to do so!"

Now is a seat belt law requiring all of us to wear our seatbelts considered unjust? It is there to save your lives from head on collisions and probably will do so. But I think the heart of situation where people who do not want to wear it have 1 of 2 ideas in their head.

1.) They are Lazy. I can relate. I sometimes just plain forget to put it on. This is where the chime comes in. It's a simple reminder. Except that it's not a simple reminder. Here is the problem I have with the chime, and that everyone else who wants this removed has with the chime.
a.) A reminder should happen only once. If at that point in time I "CHOOSE" to ignore the reminder, that is my choice. Does the chime stop after the first time? NO IT DOES NOT! It instead begins to annoyingly continue to chime in every few minutes until seatbelt is put in thus causing distractions. This is a problem for a couple of reasons.
1.) It's my own damn car. I'm paying for it, and I do not want this feature in my car. I would be okay with it if it only reminded me once and then I decided to put it on or not, but it doesn't do this. It's like my car is TELLING me what to do, and I'm sorry but "I" control the car, not the other way around.
2.) It's now more annoying because now while driving, people tend to put their seat belt on while driving thus taking their eyes off of the road. Yes they should have put it on before taking off, but now I'm on the highway with no shoulder so I attempt to put it on. I could wreck because I've now taken my eyes off of the road.

2.) Some people are good drivers. And in an attempt to not be vague, I will define a good driver. A "Good Driver" is someone who is alert at ALL times and is not distracted from what is in front of him. We all know people sometimes tend to look away even for a split second because what was in front of them at a distance looked clear, but then something comes from out of nowhere to cause the head on collision. Well I can tell you there are about 15% of drivers out there who never do this. When I get behind the wheel of a car that is moving at speeds that can kill you, I personally do not look away for nothing. My kid in the back seat can be screaming bloody murder, and I will not look away. I will pull over like a responsible person and fix the problem. People like me can with 100% certainty always be alert and watching the road. If you are one of these people you do not need the seat belt because you will always know what's in front of you avoiding head on collisions. 85% of you out there however do occasionally look away even if it's for a split second. 95% of the time looking away for a split second will not cause a wreck. but 5% of the times it does. Now 5% may not seem like much, but think about how often you drive. Eventually within a 10 year span, you will land on that 5% at the roll of a dice and get in a wreck. And the seat belt saved your life. Many of you can attest to having had this happen to you or been very close and having to slam on breaks having a close call. Don't lie to yourself, this happens to some people.

Because of these odds, the government decided to make seat belts the law. It's not 100% certain seat belts will save your lives. Do some actual research as I have, and stop being sheep and saying it is guaranteed to save your life because everyone else says it will. You only make those with brains become convinced the world is full of stupid people. And seat belts can also cause deaths.

So I would say that if you are one of those drivers who NEVER looks away from what's ahead of you and do not want to wear the seatbelt. You are a free citizen of America. If you feel this law is unjust for the reasons above then by all means it's your duty to disobey it. And I don't think a car should be telling YOU what to do. You tell the car what to do!

If however you are one of these guys who do occasionally look away, I would wear the belt as your odds are slightly higher of surviving than not. Don't lie to yourselves. Only you know if you look away, lying to yourself will only cause death or injury to you someday.


***** DISCLAIMER *****
Doing this does cause the airbag to open more quickly if you do get into a head on collision and is MORE DANGEROUS! The reason for this is if the car believes electronically you are in your seatbelt, (but in reality you are not physically in the seatbelt) it is programmed to open more quickly because it assumes the seatbelt will slow your forward momentum, except that you will not be slowed. The impact from a faster airbag without a seatbelt can cause neck and back injuries, and even death. Before modification if you were not wearing your seatbelt the airbag comes at the person slower as it comes out to make up for you not wearing your seat belt. It is definately *MORE DANGEROUS* if you do wreck and do this trick. I will not be held accountable should you chose of your own free will to do this. It is your OWN CHOICE. But for scientific reasons and freedom of choice, it will get rid of the chime forever. Remember, it is your choice! I take no responsibility for your actions.

Now to remove the chime for those of us who believe in a free non communist America and freewill . How this works is you take your female seat belt connecter down by your hip. You need to have the key in your car, with the power turned on but not the engine. (you can have the engine on, try this if the other one doesn't work. Take apart the casing of this component, it will reveal the inside of the seatbelt components. There will be an odd copper/brass filament looking object that slides downwards as you buckle the seat belt. If you buckle the male seatbelt into the female part while the casing is off, you can see how this process works by watching the filament slide downwards. It will push that copper/brass filament downwards as the seat belt is buckled. This filament is conductive and provides a static unchanging signal to the cars computer that the seatbelt is buckled. This stores a value in the cars computer to 1 meaning buckled. IF you then while the car is on, remove this filament in it's down state without sliding it back up, will ALWAYS stay in a state of buckled = 1 even after physically unbuckling it. You can then turn the car off, back on, it will always remain in a buckled state, and the chime will never sound again! Keep this filament somewhere safe because it's small and you will lose it otherwise in case you never want to reinstall it. If the fillament moves back up while removing it, it will send the car buckled = 0 and it will chime. Keep the filament because if you ever have to change the battery or the computer gets reset somehow due to electrical problems you will need to do this trick again. I did this in another car I own and it's been 4 years without the chime. If you lose the filament you can use a small copper wire and emulate the filament by dragging it downwards. Just watch for flashing jack to go away. There is also a sensor in the seats to detect if you are sitting down or not so if you see flashing jack no there sit down without the seatbelt, it should come on.

There you have it! Good luck to you, and remember YOU make the choice by doing this. I only provided the knowledge and facts on the whole situation. You can chose to disagree or not, but these are the facts. Indisputable.

You lost my attention when you called Thomas Edison a founding father...

I'm going to make the Cliché statement and say in my 15+ years as a Firefighter/Paramedic I've never pulled a dead person out of a seat belt.

That being said as humans we drive 4000 lbs missiles down the road often at speeds approach or exceeding 100 mph. There will be deaths and carnage. The seatbelts do more good than harm.

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[CamaroCracka]

Thanks for the write up and I agree it's one more unnecessary intrusion by government, but it only dings twice and then does not come on again until you restart the car. It even reminds me to check my gauges. Not worth messing with for me.

[nikitis]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

You lost my attention when you called Thomas Edison a founding father...

I'm going to make the Cliché statement and say in my 15+ years as a Firefighter/Paramedic I've never pulled a dead person out of a seat belt.

That being said as humans we drive 4000 lbs missiles down the road often at speeds approach or exceeding 100 mph. There will be deaths and carnage. The seatbelts do more good than harm.

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Whoops i meant Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson. Edited.

[nikitis]

Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

Thanks for the write up and I agree it's one more unnecessary intrusion by government, but it only dings twice and then does not come on again until you restart the car. It even reminds me to check my gauges. Not worth messing with for me.

Odd in my 2012 1LS, it goes on and on. More than twice.

[Firefighter]

Originally Posted by nikitis

Whoops i meant Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson. Edited.

Makes more sense... lol

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