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Old 09-27-2012, 11:56 AM   #57
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The scariest moment in my Camaro was driving home one night when an oncoming van hit a deer and sent it skidding and spinning across the highway in front of me. I thought I saw the deer in his headlights so I had already begun to brake. If I hadn't, I would have run right into it. It was surreal seeing the deer spinning like a top going about 35 or 40.
I try be mellow with other drivers, I was a hot-head in my youth and I've cooled down a lot in my road rage.
Only one time I had the ol S&W ready at hand to deal with a guy, he was drunk and staggered over to my car in the kinko's parking lot (I stopped to make copies). Apparently he thought my driving was atrocious. I opted not to pull the gun on him as he leaned in to say something I realized how drunk he was and proceeded to call the cops on him - he went to jail and I went on my merry way.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:57 PM   #58
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Glad you're OK Belle. In Fla you can have a loaded weapon in the car if it is not easily accessable. If you are CWP it can be on your person. Brandishing on the other hand is a felony without CWP. With CWP it is a second degree misdemeanor. Bottom line, don't pull it unless you are prepared to KILL the other person. Requires Fear-for-your-LIFE! Personally if I couldn't evade I'd stop and get out, waiting to see if the individual turned around. If so, I'd keep my vehicle between them and me and keep my hand on my hip. Let the chips fall.

On the other hand. If someone was with me who could not defend themselves I would make every effort to evade, not stopping.

The logic gets circular real quick.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:04 PM   #59
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FYI the clip (or magazine if that's the term you prefer) is always in the case for you gun experts but I don't want to get pulled over with a loaded pistol. It's illegal in my state to transport a loaded firearm even with a concealed carry permit. This is why the gun was not loaded.

Also I did not "flash" the gun. She never saw it. It was there for me, not to "scare" anyone else.

...And when I said loaded a clip, I meant inserted the clip into the gun. Every magazine I own is loaded and today was no exception. I was taught all about firearms from a young age... You know what they say: guns don't kill people. Dads with pretty daughters do. Mine taught me well.
Sorry, i should clarify that your original post did not give me the impression you were flashing the weapon. For all others, I am only trying to share knowledge, not trying to lecture.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:52 PM   #60
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hell, what fun is that?
Well if the cars drove themselves without any human interaction, theoretically they could all go 100mph since they'd all be driving in sync with the rest of traffic.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:04 PM   #61
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I thought about getting out and asking if she had a problem but I didn't want to have to shoot anyone. There's a lot of paperwork involved in something like that!
Not a good idea if your a CHL holder. Best bet is call the police.

On a side not.... Why was your clip not in your gun to start with??
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:05 PM   #62
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Wow, what a story! I can't believe the guy called his girlfriend "Dude"!
Yeah, they were a bunch of kids.

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Not a good idea if your a CHL holder. Best bet is call the police.

On a side not.... Why was your clip not in your gun to start with??
It's illegal to transport a loaded firearm here and I don't want to go to jail for it.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:12 PM   #63
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.....She follows right on my tail. She is glaring at me and making obscene gestures (I see this through the rearview).

So I am a little nervous and I leave the station without stopping. She follows me onto the interstate. She is still flipping me off and riding my tail, swerving to try to get alongside me. People were honking at her. I started to speed to get away from her, and she proceeded to get up over ninety mph, catch up to me and then tried to run me off the road!......
The correct procedure in this situation is to bring the car to a complete stop. I always do that when I am being tailgated. This solves the problems instantly. If possible, stop the car in a place where it is difficult for the person behind you to drive around you.

I don't stop suddenly, I just go slower and slower and then stop. What this does is make a tailgater look "obvious" and puts the focus on them (and not you).

Usually the tailgater will explode with anger. In your case, you also have nothing to worry about since you are packing heat.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:44 PM   #64
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The correct procedure in this situation is to bring the car to a complete stop. I always do that when I am being tailgated. This solves the problems instantly. If possible, stop the car in a place where it is difficult for the person behind you to drive around you.

I don't stop suddenly, I just go slower and slower and then stop. What this does is make a tailgater look "obvious" and puts the focus on them (and not you).

Usually the tailgater will explode with anger. In your case, you also have nothing to worry about since you are packing heat.

I like this one. In the middle of traffic even!
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:32 PM   #65
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:56 PM   #66
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The correct procedure in this situation is to bring the car to a complete stop. I always do that when I am being tailgated. This solves the problems instantly. If possible, stop the car in a place where it is difficult for the person behind you to drive around you.

I don't stop suddenly, I just go slower and slower and then stop. What this does is make a tailgater look "obvious" and puts the focus on them (and not you).

Usually the tailgater will explode with anger. In your case, you also have nothing to worry about since you are packing heat.
Making the person "explode with anger" is never the correct option. If it were to be taken to court for some reason, you will be seen as the instigator, and not the angered party. That's an entirely possible scenario.


As for crazy people in cars stories, I've got a few but this one was back in my college days when I was confused and driving a mustang lol.

I was driving along thru traffic and was the middle lane of a four lane stretch of roadway (turning lane in the middle). Well I needed to be on the outside lane to stop to a blockbuster and return some movies. Well the outside lane was a solid line of cars. I turn my blinker on and wait for a car to hopefully make a hole for me. At this point I'm slowing down in my lane a bit but nothing is behind me so that's fine. Well a few cars go past and then I see a hole open up in front of a old white Buick Century, so I begin to move over into the other lane and begin to increase my speed back up slowly.

Well either the guy driving didn't see me or he was just being a prick, but he didn't slow down one bit until he was right on my ass, then he appeared to mash on the brakes rapidly to keep from hitting me. I am seeing this in the rearview mirror. So now he's apparently pissed because now he's waving his hands around and it looks like he's shouting angrily. Well this continues for the next half mile or so, while I turn off to go into Blockbuster. Well Captain Uncontrollable Anger decides to follow me in, whipping his car in behind me and tailgating me around the parking lot to where I eventually stopped.

While I had pulled into the parking space, the guy in the Buick had pulled across behind my car and stopped, blocking me in my space. By this time, my seat belt was off and I was starting to get a bit angry myself, but mostly scared that some nutjob was gonna try to assault me or maybe even kill me. So as I pop my door I'm looking back over my left shoulder and grabbing my pistol with the other hand from where it was sitting on the passenger seat. The guy gets out of his car at the point where I'm standing up out of mine and he looks at me and starts to take a step towards me. As I finally get fully squared up with the guy, he stops. I think either because he noticed the pistol in my hand or maybe he just had a change of heart.

I think my words were "Can I help you?" Or something to that affect. He kinda looked at me in the face then just said "You need to watch cutting in front of people. You made my dog fall in the floor when I locked my brakes up." And then he turned and got back in the car and left before I could do anything or say anything else. Before he got back in the car, I noticed his wife staring at me, a horrific look on her face, I think because she was looking straight at my pistol.

Hopefully she didn't notice that my whole body was shaking as he got back into the car. I was freaked out a bit by the whole thing, especially since I had just gotten my concealed permit not even two weeks prior to this event. I'm just glad he did the smart thing and got back in his car and left before it escalated, because unfortunately I don't believe it would have ended well for him or me if it had of escalated.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:30 PM   #67
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These are absolutely crazy stories.

I think we should all read through them and realize that there are no winners in any situation where we display aggression. We all lose. I would not be proud of myself if I reacted in rage because of some supposed slight, nor if I reacted to someone else's road rage. What is gained by it?

We are all better for it, if someone acts in rage towards us, that we let their emotional issues be their own. We shouldn't participate in it. There are some people in the world who are idiots, and they are not reasonable; yes they acted unfairly but that's not our problem to own or solve.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:23 PM   #68
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These are absolutely crazy stories.

I think we should all read through them and realize that there are no winners in any situation where we display aggression. We all lose. I would not be proud of myself if I reacted in rage because of some supposed slight, nor if I reacted to someone else's road rage. What is gained by it?

We are all better for it, if someone acts in rage towards us, that we let their emotional issues be their own. We shouldn't participate in it. There are some people in the world who are idiots, and they are not reasonable; yes they acted unfairly but that's not our problem to own or solve.
True but when they threaten or attempt to inflict bodily harm to you or someone else, then it becomes your problem. And I don't know about you, but I don't like people kicking my ass. Much less murdering me or my friends and family in front of my eyes. So when it comes to the point that someone is trying to either force me off the road or harm me with a car, first I'm gonna try to get the hell away from them. If that fails, then I'm gonna find a public area to stop (hopefully) and then I'm gonna confront the person. Hopefully this will either make them panic and drive off. Otherwise, they will get out and start shouting or attempting to assault me physically, at which point they will catch lead most likely.

The best course of action in any confrontation is to avoid it at all costs. If this is not possible, you need to be prepared to defend yourself.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:35 PM   #69
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:24 PM   #70
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FYI the clip (or magazine if that's the term you prefer) is always in the case for you gun experts but I don't want to get pulled over with a loaded pistol. It's illegal in my state to transport a loaded firearm even with a concealed carry permit. This is why the gun was not loaded.
Ok your state has some nonsense laws, they are cool about guns as long as they aren't loaded enough said and my apologies.
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