My camaro wont start ):

[2SS 2011]

Originally Posted by christianchevell

well you most likely slopped mud up on the starters solenoid shorting it out and thats why you can not get the car to start. If a solenoid is bad people in the day would just take and have someone try to turn the car on while someone with a screw driver arcs the power from the positive lead that comes from the battery on the big bolt in the middle of the solenoid to the smaller bolt on the side of the big screw thus engaging the solenoid to force it to work. If its the right combination bingo it starts if not your on the wrong secondary bolt on the front of the solenoid..there are two small and one large.......Good luck sounds like driver error. And laying in the mud you could get it to start...you may just have to wash the solenoid off and let it dry.

If that was the case.. I'd love to see what driving in the rain would do

[2SS 2011]

Originally Posted by NDballers

Hey guys, just letting you guys know my backyard is dry enough to get it towed away, I will post a picture of it on the tow truck later even though it is kinda dirty..

Updates -
I am 99% sure it is my battery now that you guys have gave me help thanks to that. My accessories don't work anymore, so I can't listen to music or turn air or lights on anymore... and my key is also stuck in the ignition, when I turn the key it doesn't even click to start, but I can't remove my key, its like stuck...? lol. I can easily take my battery up to the auto zone place to check it but I am still going to have the dealership take it, because they sold it to me with some random wires that I think used to be aftermarket headlights.. They didn't do a good job of removing them if that is what they were... The wires also run under the car like as it was underglow and it looks like it connects to my foglight switch from inside the car.

Here are some pictures. (Sorry if they are huge)

looking at that wire mess.. you have a draw somewhoere that drained the battery.. Good luck..

[robotfighter]

Very nice Camaro, by the way. Man, my first car was a 65 Chrysler Newport that needed tons of work. Lucky bastard.

[pocketcthulhu]

Originally Posted by robotfighter

Very nice Camaro, by the way. Man, my first car was a 65 Chrysler Newport that needed tons of work. Lucky bastard.

yea My daughter is going to get a beater for her first car.

Oh yea it's not going to have a back seat

[iCamaro]

Originally Posted by pocketcthulhu

yea My daughter is going to get a beater for her first car.

Oh yea it's not going to have a back seat

+1

I have a daughter too.

[ChrisBlair]

I just read about 20 posts that say "probably" the battery

Instead of guessing about the battery, put a volt meter on it and see what is really is. Might be fine

If so, then check the battery connections, clean the terminals, and connectors, re-install, and try starting again

If the shop tells you it's a battery and it needs replacement, ask them what the voltage of your "bad" battery is. No matter what they tell you, if it's "bad" tell them to show you, with a volt meter. It may not be perfectly the same as what they told you, that's OK. But if the battery shows full charge, see if the car will start

If it does, it is possible you had a dirty/loose terminal, and they are trying to rip you off. be sure it's your original battery before you go off half-****ed, but shady shops are still out there

You have a very straightforward problem that they can diagnose very easily

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by pocketcthulhu

yea My daughter is going to get a beater for her first car.

Oh yea it's not going to have a back seat

A beater sportscar?

Better get her Triple-A too; those Fiats never had a good rep

[tramtwo]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

I just read about 20 posts that say "probably" the battery

Instead of guessing about the battery, put a volt meter on it and see what is really is. Might be fine

If so, then check the battery connections, clean the terminals, and connectors, re-install, and try starting again

If the shop tells you it's a battery and it needs replacement, ask them what the voltage of your "bad" battery is. No matter what they tell you, if it's "bad" tell them to show you, with a volt meter. It may not be perfectly the same as what they told you, that's OK. But if the battery shows full charge, see if the car will start

If it does, it is possible you had a dirty/loose terminal, and they are trying to rip you off. be sure it's your original battery before you go off half-****ed, but shady shops are still out there

You have a very straightforward problem that they can diagnose very easily

A volt meter is NOT a good test for batteries, they need to have a load placed on them to determine their serviceability.

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by tramtwo

A volt meter is NOT a good test for batteries, they need to have a load placed on them to determine their serviceability.

Oh, yes understood, but respectfully, a volt meter tells you the voltage; and a poor test is better than no test. No test had been performed. Typically people don't have a portable way to test that load so a volt meter is better than a guess.

In practical application over twenty five years of playing with old piece of shit cars, a volt meter has always told me the voltage. Yes, that doesn't always mean the car will start with 12v but it starts me off in a direction to diagnose the problem. In the case of a 12v battery and the car won't start, I turn on the lights and crank the engine for example. Very rarely have I encountered solenoid click+fully charged battery that wasn't a bad electrical connection

On a new car, if my new car's new battery showed the right charge and the solenoid clicked I'd start looking elsewhere for my 'simplest solution', whereas if the battery was low, I'd start checking my charging system connections, and charge the battery. If the battery was at full charge, and the lights dimmed on cranking, yes, I'd have the battery load tested

In the case of the OPs car, seems he's getting a solenoid click, and an easy first test with tools people gave easy access to is, well, the meter. Yes, I agree it is a coarse test

[pocketcthulhu]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

A beater sportscar?

Better get her Triple-A too; those Fiats never had a good rep