Camaro 1LE vs Mustang GT track pack (Motortrend)

[Heaven_is_inferno_orange]

Originally Posted by Phantom.5SS

"Mustang is the more mature gentleman" if by that you mean old, outdated and failing in looks and health..then you sir are CORRECT..LOL

LOL thanks for the laugh!

[ThaCamaroKid]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

The 5.0 and Boss Handle Remarkably, the Mustangs downfall is its live axle for sure. Ford would need to at a Watts Link to improve the current design. I'm excited for the coming years...

I agree the live axle kills it completely, FOR a live axle they do handle well but if you compare to competition that just hurts them too much

[ThaCamaroKid]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

It does all come down to this ↑↑↑, does it not?

What any given platform is ultimately capable of and what any given production version of it actually manages to do really are two different things. The SS left a lot on the table, possibly due to GM/Chevy conservatism.


Norm

I agree, it does come down to this, And I think the Boss showed what the 5.0 platform was capable of and now I think that is what the 1LE does. I just think the 1LE is STILL a bit conservative. Not a lot, just a little. But I still believe, (based on track times) the 1LE is just a faster track car than the 302 and 302 LS, on paper the 302 LS looks alot faster and in a straight line it is by a fair bit, but on the track it is always a different story.

[Segsy1LE]

Originally Posted by shrinkdoc

Camaros dont look good with black hoods.

I've had mine for a week... here's what's happened in that week.

1. Kids running and yelling about the cool car
2. Pedestrian flourished (in a cool way)
3. Lots of head turns
4. Lots of people driving beside me to look in (either through the sunroof or other windows (still untinted)
5. Notified that coworkers were drooling over it
6. It picked up a chick for me... doorbell rings, I thought it was the pizza, instead it's a drunk girl asking for "John," no John here, and none of my neighbors are named John. She doesn't leave but asks me if I'm sure. If she had been prettier, maybe. But at least it got a bite!

So, I think most people are more than fine with the matte black hood.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Segsy1LE

I've had mine for a week... here's what's happened in that week.

1. Kids running and yelling about the cool car
2. Pedestrian flourished (in a cool way)
3. Lots of head turns
4. Lots of people driving beside me to look in (either through the sunroof or other windows (still untinted)
5. Notified that coworkers were drooling over it
6. It picked up a chick for me... doorbell rings, I thought it was the pizza, instead it's a drunk girl asking for "John," no John here, and none of my neighbors are named John. She doesn't leave but asks me if I'm sure. If she had been prettier, maybe. But at least it got a bite!

So, I think most people are more than fine with the matte black hood.

You need a class in sarcasm
Read the thread and you'll see that their is a debate over whether looks are subjective or not, they are, you would know he is making a comment based on it...

[Segsy1LE]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

You need a class in sarcasm

It's not like I was yelling or being defensive... how about you try a class in reading comprehension.

[tramtwo]

Originally Posted by Segsy1LE

I've had mine for a week... here's what's happened in that week.

1. Kids running and yelling about the cool car
2. Pedestrian flourished (in a cool way)
3. Lots of head turns
4. Lots of people driving beside me to look in (either through the sunroof or other windows (still untinted)
5. Notified that coworkers were drooling over it
6. It picked up a chick for me... doorbell rings, I thought it was the pizza, instead it's a drunk girl asking for "John," no John here, and none of my neighbors are named John. She doesn't leave but asks me if I'm sure. If she had been prettier, maybe. But at least it got a bite!

So, I think most people are more than fine with the matte black hood.

Welcome to the site and congratz on the car! Photos?

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Segsy1LE

It's not like I was yelling or being defensive... how about you try a class in reading comprehension.

I'm a Canadian we don't have illiteracy here. JK

[djsnoflake]

When I was at Spring Mountain, the one thing I noticed was that the hood graphic takes a beating and the paint shows through pretty badly on the bright colored cars. On the Argent Grey and Black, it looked really good though!

[ThaCamaroKid]

Originally Posted by shrinkdoc

Camaros dont look good with black hoods.

That is a matter of opinion, I would of assumed it didnt look good but in all honesty I like it, especially the pre-production prototype 1LE that had the hash marks.

[Segsy1LE]

Originally Posted by tramtwo

Welcome to the site and congratz on the car! Photos?

Thanks! I'll be taking some photos once I get the windows tinted.

[GRAHL]

Originally Posted by Segsy1LE

It's not like I was yelling or being defensive... how about you try a class in reading comprehension.

Don't bite, he's just being a little defensive right now. Definitely post some pics of your ride!

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ThaCamaroKid

I agree the live axle kills it completely, FOR a live axle they do handle well but if you compare to competition that just hurts them too much

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Yes but think about if from Ford's standpoint. Probably 90-95% of Mustang GTs owners that race these cars will do it on the drag strip, for this purpose the present rear-end axle setup is ideal. Try launching a SS at 3500-5000 rpms with DRs or slicks and see what happens.

All of us being honest here, how often do we compete with another car in the curves, whether it be on the track or the street. I have been running fast cars for nearly 30-years, I can't ever recall racing somebody through the curves. Not that I wouldn't like to give it a try someday.

What you have to remember is Ford's fan base for the mustang is the 1/4 mile, they focus on it. If they happen to get a car that handles well in the package it's just a bonus. Proven by examples like the 2013 GT500, 5.0 and 2013 Boss (while promoted as a corner carver, it still can lay down serious 1/4 mile times).

[2cnd chance]

They're in for a rude awakening then with the next generation Mustang. Ford left it that way because it was cheaper and they had no competition. Now that the competition is back they're spending the $$$$$ for a more modern chassis and suspension.