Camaro v6 vs. Genesis 3.8 Track - Page 7 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Ninjak · 06-04-2009, 03:09 PM

I seen a 2.0T driving on the Pike yesterday..was black..caught my eye. Then I saw it pull up to a turbion and thought hmm...ok I see what they did there.

Not a bad looking car, and a lot of bang for the buck it seems. Have not done any real solid research on it yet though.

CKurt3 · 06-07-2009, 11:22 PM

Interesting convo.

Both wonderful cars.

Coming from both a Camaro5 and Gencoupe.com member!

illestdomer2005 · 06-09-2009, 04:23 PM

I went into my car research phase with a huge crush on the Camaro. After dealing with price gouging Chevy dealers, the Genesis Coupe started to look better and better. I made the mistake of test driving the 2.0L the day AFTER I drove the 1LT Camaro. I was completely turned off. My brother, though, test drove a 3.8L GT with a stick and told me I had to give it another shot. I drove the automatic with paddle shifters (just like the Camaro I test drove), and it was fantastic. Without timing it on a track with exact conditions, the Genesis Coupe felt faster to me straight line and had MUCH better visibility. The Camaro had me worried someone could easily fall into the gaping blindspots.

Interior-wise, I am not a HUGE fan of either car. There are things both cars do well though, and there's no doubt the Camaro is really comfortable for what it can do. On the exterior, while I love the rear and even profile of the Genesis Coupe, the Camaro still kills it in the looks department. There's not a single angle that I don't love drooling over the Camaro.

On the name-recognition front, everyone knows a Chevy Camaro, and Hyundai is still working on its street cred. That said, Hyundai doesn't give any prospective buyer a moment of pause about its long-term viability. Chevy, on the other hand, is on its way to becoming Government Motors. You're hard pressed to beat Hyundai's warranty, and I'll take that to the bank ahead of Obama's warranty.

Lastly, the fully loaded, top of the line Genesis Coupe is a mere thousand dollars more than the 2LT similarly equipped. The 2LT with RS package has 20" wheels over the 3.8 Track's 19" wheels, but the Genesis Coupe has the Brembo brakes found only on the SS Camaros. So...that's personal preference. Also, you're talking about a Korean sports car over American muscle. Some people are die in the ditch for American muscle cars. If you're that guy (or girl), your decision was already made before the Genesis Coupe ever existed.

Now...comparisons aside, you can go to most any Hyundai dealership and pick up a Genesis Coupe, and you can even lease one in most states if that's your cup of tea. The same isn't true for the Camaro. Maybe it's of value to you that your car is so in demand that it will take you months to get it after a special order, but if you want one right now, you'll have to pay thousands over MSRP when the Genesis Coupe can be had for sub sticker.

I am as of yet undecided as the Camaro would be my first choice all things being equal.

Ninjak · 06-09-2009, 05:16 PM

Been doing my research on this car, and I have to say I am impressed with what they came up with. The car responds very well to F/I, turbo or S/C. I have seen vids of these cars running with Mercs and BMW's easily. I seen a vid of a turbo one taking a C5or is it a C6 Vette...in the 1/4 !

Yeah yeah you can say "well that's modded" but the fact remains that it is still a good car based, and even better modded. The same features found on a SS can be had on the Genn Coupe for less money...Hell it has more features than the GT as well !

My advice, do not sleep on these cars.Hyandai is stepping their game up...really stepping their game up.

illestdomer2005 · 06-10-2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjak

Been doing my research on this car, and I have to say I am impressed with what they came up with. The car responds very well to F/I, turbo or S/C. I have seen vids of these cars running with Mercs and BMW's easily. I seen a vid of a turbo one taking a C5or is it a C6 Vette...in the 1/4 !

Yeah yeah you can say "well that's modded" but the fact remains that it is still a good car based, and even better modded. The same features found on a SS can be had on the Genn Coupe for less money...Hell it has more features than the GT as well !

My advice, do not sleep on these cars.Hyandai is stepping their game up...really stepping their game up.

Indeed. The big difference is that it doesn't look and isn't American. That is a deal breaker for some people.

Ninjak · 06-10-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illestdomer2005

Indeed. The big difference is that it doesn't look and isn't American. That is a deal breaker for some people.

Truth in that. But just as well, people will not buy American because of what is happening to Chrysler and GM. A lot of people will just not care.

boswepw · 06-12-2009, 01:24 PM

I saw a new black V-6 Genesis coupe parked next to my MINI this week, and it looked pretty good. It was a pretty typical hatch-back layout, but the black was a good color for its lines (as compared to the yellow one in the Motor Trend article.) I personally like both cars, but prefer my RS better (estimated July 1st delivery date). One other minor tidbit in the Camaro's favor - regular unleaded versus premium required for just about every other V-6 coupe out there - Accord, Genesis, Altima, 350/370Z, G37, and even my little 4-banger MINI Cooper S.

greenrail · 06-12-2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConceptVBS

They already have the V8 engine in the sedan. Both cars are based on the Genesis platform. So you do the math. It's bound to happen sometime in the future, if not by the manufacturer, most certainly by hobbyists.

Many of the early articles I read in C&D, MT and others, said that the design of the Coupe would not allow room for the V-8. As a result Hyundai wasn't planning on any V-8 model.

At least early on. One never knows when things like this would change.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 06-12-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenrail

Many of the early articles I read in C&D, MT and others, said that the design of the Coupe would not allow room for the V-8. As a result Hyundai wasn't planning on any V-8 model.

At least early on. One never knows when things like this would change.

I've read such statements as well. No V8. The Genesis Coupe is a modified version of the Genesis sedan. More so than the G8/Camaro relationship....

greenrail · 06-12-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I've read such statements as well. No V8. The Genesis Coupe is a modified version of the Genesis sedan. More so than the G8/Camaro relationship....

I recall that the question was posed early on when the Show Car came out and every thing I read said no V-8. Underhood clearances and structure wouldn't allow it.

But, I would never be surprised at what Hyundai may do.

Absolutely agree about the relationship between the G8/Camaro and the Genesis Coupe/Sedan. Somehwat very different.

JewelZ · 06-12-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Z/28orSs

yea nice comp. top of the line Genesis vs base maro!

that is sad... the v8 would blow it away, and even the v6 base with gensis base would be reasonable

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil_chef

?Watch out for my 1500 HP camry?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobH

2lt isn't exactly a base model Camaro. It's the top of the line V6.

'TOP OF THE LINE' meaning it only has extra options and trim, nothing to do with performance... 'track' on the gensis actually changes performance... all v6 Camaros are the same!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Nothing screams old school muscle like an Hyundai!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by levi1922

but its sill the smallest motor for the car in the 2LT, the 3.8 isnt the smallest genesis motor

thank you!!! someone here knows what the heck they are talkin about

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Originally Posted by Mrbobcat

I would'nt say that. Go over to the gencoupe forum and there are all kinds of reports of double takes and people digging the car. It sounds like it looks even better in person too.

ehh

!!!! You want something better for a very similar price go get an infiniti g35 much better choice than a Hyundai!!!! Hyundai is just a copy cat!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConceptVBS

Lets looks at the specs.

Both V6
Both RWD
Both IRS
Both 6 speed manual
Both Sport coupes
Both similar size (camaro a bit bigger)
Both start less than $30K ($22k camaro vs $25k gen coupe)

And you dont see why this isnt a good comparison?

Quote:

Originally Posted by levi1922

so, we are comparing the specs only? i thought we were cars...
and yes i know different people will have different styling likes and dislikes, but, it is a part of a car. thats why some will chose the geny and come the maro

THE EVIL TW1N · 06-12-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JewelZ

that is sad... the v8 would blow it away, and even the v6 base with gensis base would be reasonable

'TOP OF THE LINE' meaning it only has extra options and trim, nothing to do with performance... 'track' on the gensis actually changes performance... all v6 Camaros are the same!

thank you!!! someone here knows what the heck they are talkin about

ehh

!!!! You want something better for a very similar price go get an infiniti g35 much better choice than a Hyundai!!!! Hyundai is just a copy cat!!!

How much is a NEW G35 exactly anyways?

ConceptVBS · 06-12-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boswepw

One other minor tidbit in the Camaro's favor - regular unleaded versus premium required for just about every other V-6 coupe out there - Accord, Genesis, Altima, 350/370Z, G37, and even my little 4-banger MINI Cooper S.

Actually, the Genesis Coupe doesnt need premium. It runs fine on regular. In fact, the official quoted 306HP figure is from the regular. Add premium, and its bumped up to 310.

MLL67RSSS · 06-25-2009, 07:17 AM

Saw this a while ago on wreckedexotics.com. At least the airbags deployed in the bad Camaro crashes we've seen. Some speculation as to why they didn't in this Hyundai crash.

Better pictures in this link:

http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/11/13/hyundai-genesis/

As the first comment says, they're sure they'd deploy in one over here. Do airbags somehow know what country they're in?

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06-04-2009, 03:09 PM	#85
Ninjak Banned Drives: 08 GT Mustang \| 65 GT Notchbac Join Date: May 2009 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 819	I seen a 2.0T driving on the Pike yesterday..was black..caught my eye. Then I saw it pull up to a turbion and thought hmm...ok I see what they did there. Not a bad looking car, and a lot of bang for the buck it seems. Have not done any real solid research on it yet though.

06-07-2009, 11:22 PM	#86
CKurt3 Drives: 2005 Ford Ranger XLT V6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11	Interesting convo. Both wonderful cars. Coming from both a Camaro5 and Gencoupe.com member!

06-09-2009, 04:23 PM	#87
illestdomer2005 Drives: 1990 Honda Accord Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 51	I went into my car research phase with a huge crush on the Camaro. After dealing with price gouging Chevy dealers, the Genesis Coupe started to look better and better. I made the mistake of test driving the 2.0L the day AFTER I drove the 1LT Camaro. I was completely turned off. My brother, though, test drove a 3.8L GT with a stick and told me I had to give it another shot. I drove the automatic with paddle shifters (just like the Camaro I test drove), and it was fantastic. Without timing it on a track with exact conditions, the Genesis Coupe felt faster to me straight line and had MUCH better visibility. The Camaro had me worried someone could easily fall into the gaping blindspots. Interior-wise, I am not a HUGE fan of either car. There are things both cars do well though, and there's no doubt the Camaro is really comfortable for what it can do. On the exterior, while I love the rear and even profile of the Genesis Coupe, the Camaro still kills it in the looks department. There's not a single angle that I don't love drooling over the Camaro. On the name-recognition front, everyone knows a Chevy Camaro, and Hyundai is still working on its street cred. That said, Hyundai doesn't give any prospective buyer a moment of pause about its long-term viability. Chevy, on the other hand, is on its way to becoming Government Motors. You're hard pressed to beat Hyundai's warranty, and I'll take that to the bank ahead of Obama's warranty. Lastly, the fully loaded, top of the line Genesis Coupe is a mere thousand dollars more than the 2LT similarly equipped. The 2LT with RS package has 20" wheels over the 3.8 Track's 19" wheels, but the Genesis Coupe has the Brembo brakes found only on the SS Camaros. So...that's personal preference. Also, you're talking about a Korean sports car over American muscle. Some people are die in the ditch for American muscle cars. If you're that guy (or girl), your decision was already made before the Genesis Coupe ever existed. Now...comparisons aside, you can go to most any Hyundai dealership and pick up a Genesis Coupe, and you can even lease one in most states if that's your cup of tea. The same isn't true for the Camaro. Maybe it's of value to you that your car is so in demand that it will take you months to get it after a special order, but if you want one right now, you'll have to pay thousands over MSRP when the Genesis Coupe can be had for sub sticker. I am as of yet undecided as the Camaro would be my first choice all things being equal.

06-09-2009, 05:16 PM	#88
Ninjak Banned Drives: 08 GT Mustang \| 65 GT Notchbac Join Date: May 2009 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 819	Been doing my research on this car, and I have to say I am impressed with what they came up with. The car responds very well to F/I, turbo or S/C. I have seen vids of these cars running with Mercs and BMW's easily. I seen a vid of a turbo one taking a C5or is it a C6 Vette...in the 1/4 ! Yeah yeah you can say "well that's modded" but the fact remains that it is still a good car based, and even better modded. The same features found on a SS can be had on the Genn Coupe for less money...Hell it has more features than the GT as well ! My advice, do not sleep on these cars.Hyandai is stepping their game up...really stepping their game up.

06-12-2009, 01:24 PM	#91
boswepw Drives: 2010 IBM 2LT RS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 17	I saw a new black V-6 Genesis coupe parked next to my MINI this week, and it looked pretty good. It was a pretty typical hatch-back layout, but the black was a good color for its lines (as compared to the yellow one in the Motor Trend article.) I personally like both cars, but prefer my RS better (estimated July 1st delivery date). One other minor tidbit in the Camaro's favor - regular unleaded versus premium required for just about every other V-6 coupe out there - Accord, Genesis, Altima, 350/370Z, G37, and even my little 4-banger MINI Cooper S.

06-25-2009, 07:17 AM	#98
MLL67RSSS Account Suspended Drives: car Join Date: May 2008 Location: location Posts: 1,569	Saw this a while ago on wreckedexotics.com. At least the airbags deployed in the bad Camaro crashes we've seen. Some speculation as to why they didn't in this Hyundai crash. Better pictures in this link: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/11/13/hyundai-genesis/ As the first comment says, they're sure they'd deploy in one over here. Do airbags somehow know what country they're in?