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dan0617 · 02-24-2013, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead

One more "magic" potion to assure longivity....Don't get stupid with the revs. If you maintain a sensible red line in addition to good tune and good octane, you'll have a better chance of your motor lasting more than a few miles. My LS3 is going great after 30K+ boosted miles and almost 4 years at 650rwhp. Never revs north of 6250 rpm.

fastvee · 02-24-2013, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I have one example of how long the LS motor can last under boost. Know a guy with a 4th gen who has full bolt ons, EPP boost cam, D1SC at about 8psi, upgraded injectors, fuel pump and meth. Car has over 125k and a untouched stock short block. Actually I dont think the heads have even been pulled. FYI the rods on the LS1 are not as strong as those in our LS3's. He also beats the sh!t out of the car. Goes to the track often and runs 10's consistently.

125k on boost? and lots of track time?

I don't think so.

VADER SS L99 · 02-24-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fastvee

125k on boost? and lots of track time?

I don't think so.

Seeing is believeing. Just ask ECS about some of their cars.

fastvee · 02-24-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

Seeing is believeing. Just ask ECS about some of their cars.

So you're saying a stock LS1 has 125,000 miles on it BOOSTED and has survived those 125k miles being abused at the track CONSTANTLY?

Who Dat 2SS · 02-24-2013, 04:04 PM

How is an aftermarket SC different than the ZL1 setup? GM obviously stands behind that.

Mchlgrrsn · 02-24-2013, 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=Who Dat 2SS;6203198]How is an aftermarket SC different than the ZL1 setup? GM obviously stands behind that.[/

When engineers design a car , the tolerances are set for hp/trq that it comes with. In the case of a zl1 they know its supercharged so they build accordingly. The camaro is designed for 400 hp. When you bolt on an extra 120hp that the car is not designed for , lets just say your not helping it last longer. At best you will speed up the decaying process, and that's best case scenario. I earlier stated 100k is when you can expect trouble. My version of trouble is getting rid of the car because it won't be worth rebuilding it. Before it reaches 100k I would expect many things to break along the way. I drive cars hard

driyac · 02-24-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Who Dat 2SS

How is an aftermarket SC different than the ZL1 setup? GM obviously stands behind that.

In essence Gm has significantly detuned the car from its full potential. They also have upgraded Fuel supply, Injectors, and the rear end of the car.

Compression is also much lower which helps in wear and tear of the car.

I am not an expert but at least know some things. Others will chime in with more info.

LeanPocket · 02-24-2013, 04:46 PM

I know someone who has 200k mile sbe ls1 with a d1 that hes had on it for about 6 years.. went through 2 built trannies but the sbe hasnt given in. I think hes in the 500+ range, only thing he changed was ARP rod bolts, and supporting cam only swap parts. He does use meth tho.

VADER SS L99 · 02-24-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fastvee

So you're saying a stock LS1 has 125,000 miles on it BOOSTED and has survived those 125k miles being abused at the track CONSTANTLY?

No, probably about 60k+ boosted miles. 125K+ total on odometer. I would guess tracked 6 times a year for 6yrs boosted. Tracked as in 1/4 not road racing or anything. I think the reason you dont hear about more cases like this is poeple get greedy. When is the last time you heard of someone who stayed less than 9psi and didnt want more. With the majority of poeple they push it with more power and boost when problems arise or they do a rebuild before going any further. Plus he is on meth 100percent of the time and race gas at the track. Guy is on his 3rd tranny and 2nd rear end but the motor stays strong.

Unreal · 02-25-2013, 09:07 AM

Friends bone stock besides wheels ZL1 blew up last night. So saying a motor will last XXXXX is just a guess. His bone stock LSA didn't make it to 10k miles before it blew up last night. Oil, metal chunks, and top of piston sitting on the ground. Good thing it is under warranty.

fastvee · 02-25-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

Friends bone stock besides wheels ZL1 blew up last night. So saying a motor will last XXXXX is just a guess. His bone stock LSA didn't make it to 10k miles before it blew up last night. Oil, metal chunks, and top of piston sitting on the ground. Good thing it is under warranty.

Did he forget to change the oil or something?

LeanPocket · 02-25-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fastvee

Did he forget to change the oil or something?

thats what i said too lol nobody knows why it took a shit

Unreal · 02-25-2013, 02:14 PM

Nope, oil was changed by the dealer on schedule and nothing but good gas. Just a freak failure. If you can't afford something like that to happen be careful playing the mod game. Nothing is for sure on how long it will last.

BullF-16 · 02-25-2013, 02:18 PM

Nope, oil was changed by the dealer on schedule and nothing but good gas. Just a freak failure. If you can't afford something like that to happen be careful playing the mod game.

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Nothing is for sure on how long it will last.

02-24-2013, 04:04 PM	#47
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02-24-2013, 04:41 PM	#48
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	[QUOTE=Who Dat 2SS;6203198]How is an aftermarket SC different than the ZL1 setup? GM obviously stands behind that.[/ When engineers design a car , the tolerances are set for hp/trq that it comes with. In the case of a zl1 they know its supercharged so they build accordingly. The camaro is designed for 400 hp. When you bolt on an extra 120hp that the car is not designed for , lets just say your not helping it last longer. At best you will speed up the decaying process, and that's best case scenario. I earlier stated 100k is when you can expect trouble. My version of trouble is getting rid of the car because it won't be worth rebuilding it. Before it reaches 100k I would expect many things to break along the way. I drive cars hard __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

02-25-2013, 09:07 AM	#52
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Friends bone stock besides wheels ZL1 blew up last night. So saying a motor will last XXXXX is just a guess. His bone stock LSA didn't make it to 10k miles before it blew up last night. Oil, metal chunks, and top of piston sitting on the ground. Good thing it is under warranty. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

02-25-2013, 02:14 PM	#55
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Nope, oil was changed by the dealer on schedule and nothing but good gas. Just a freak failure. If you can't afford something like that to happen be careful playing the mod game. Nothing is for sure on how long it will last. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

02-24-2013, 04:46 PM	#50
LeanPocket Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 634	I know someone who has 200k mile sbe ls1 with a d1 that hes had on it for about 6 years.. went through 2 built trannies but the sbe hasnt given in. I think hes in the 500+ range, only thing he changed was ARP rod bolts, and supporting cam only swap parts. He does use meth tho.