2010 Camaro videos (6:00+ minutes) - testing on Nurburgring and driving near premises

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by C3GM

Is this the poor excuse for a Camaro we are going to get?

First off, it sounds like a 4 or a 6 cylinder, and no I am not just saying that to get people mad, It truly does.

Second, some videos make it look slower than Christmas and others make it look like its leaping off of the ground, it seems as if, by pavement and time of day, this was several different versions of a " Black Camaro"

Last, getting your can whipped like that by a Prissy Convertible Porsche, which was NOT a 4S, if you slow the video down to look, it was a 2S, is SAD SAD SAD. My old 1992 RS 25th Anniversary would take a Porssche to the edge and if I would have had more motor, it woulda have inked them a new badge.

This car has more tire noise than a Hyundai Accent and more body roll than a 89 Mustang GT.

Lord, I hope the production version is better than this!

P.S., I used to help build Panoz Esperante's and know a few things about tuning, handling, and track testing... This video is simply embaressing, as a former Camaro-lover... Long live my '07 Mustang GT (My first Ford, thanks to GM).


C3

Well, you sure are entitled to your opinion!

Regarding the Porsche passing the Camaro, I had the initial, "WTF!?!", but then quickly realized that we really haven't a clue as to what was going on at that time. There are so many possibilities regarding why the P passed the Camaro. Did it appear to you as though the Camaro sped off as quickly as it could have once the Porsche passed the Camaro? I don't think so. This is all for testing...which means it won't be running full bore 100% the entire time it's going around the track. At least, that's how I see it.

I agree, it could be a V6 and there could be more than one. We just don't know. Let's try to do like Scott requested and hold our reservations until the final product is revealed!

[warbird81]

Originally Posted by Tran

From blog. Here's the first long-length video of the Camaro test car testing on the Nurburgring test track and driving near the facilities . We're given a chance to hear and see the Camaro at both low and high speeds, on straights, sweepers and tight corners. Click on play button for video (may take a few seconds to load). The sounds gave me chills.

Set aside a few minutes and enjoy!!!!

if you take a look at the wheels on the car at 1.00 the wheels are not the same you could not see the brembo's on the car at that time. i even paused the vid to see if i was crazy.either they were checking out dif tire combos or their testing two cars on the track. either way the car is bad ass.

[SScott]

Poor audio. All wind and tire noise. No heavy Chevy exhaust note. Sounds like a V6. I'll wait patiently for the road tests in Car And Driver, and Motor Trend Magazines, as those are my bellweathers.

[Mythic]

Originally Posted by C3GM

Is this the poor excuse for a Camaro we are going to get?

First off, it sounds like a 4 or a 6 cylinder, and no I am not just saying that to get people mad, It truly does.

Second, some videos make it look slower than Christmas and others make it look like its leaping off of the ground, it seems as if, by pavement and time of day, this was several different versions of a " Black Camaro"

Last, getting your can whipped like that by a Prissy Convertible Porsche, which was NOT a 4S, if you slow the video down to look, it was a 2S, is SAD SAD SAD. My old 1992 RS 25th Anniversary would take a Porssche to the edge and if I would have had more motor, it woulda have inked them a new badge.

This car has more tire noise than a Hyundai Accent and more body roll than a 89 Mustang GT.

Lord, I hope the production version is better than this!

P.S., I used to help build Panoz Esperante's and know a few things about tuning, handling, and track testing... This video is simply embaressing, as a former Camaro-lover... Long live my '07 Mustang GT (My first Ford, thanks to GM).


C3

Hows your buddy's "08 pre-pro Black Convertable Z28?

:troll:

check their other posts.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...8915#post38915
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...0334#post20334
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...0335#post20335

[camaro5]

[QUOTE=Mythic;64447]Hows your buddy's "08 pre-pro Black Convertable Z28?

:troll:

Mythic - I saw that stuff too -what a clown this person is

[Camaro 09]

[QUOTE=TAG UR IT;64429]Well, you sure are entitled to your opinion!

Regarding the Porsche passing the Camaro, I had the initial, "WTF!?!", but then quickly realized that we really haven't a clue as to what was going on at that time. There are so many possibilities regarding why the P passed the Camaro. Did it appear to you as though the Camaro sped off as quickly as it could have once the Porsche passed the Camaro? I don't think so. This is all for testing...which means it won't be running full bore 100% the entire time it's going around the track. At least, that's how I see it.

I agree, it could be a V6 and there could be more than one. We just don't know. Let's try to do like Scott requested and hold our reservations until the final product is revealed! [/QUOTE

Nice post Tag. We dont know if he was going full speed, what engine he had, if he tried to bet the porsche, what kind of tires were used, so dont be so quick to judge one video we have many more coming.

[eatmytireshredsGT]

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Originally Posted by C3GM View Post
Is this the poor excuse for a Camaro we are going to get?

First off, it sounds like a 4 or a 6 cylinder, and no I am not just saying that to get people mad, It truly does.

Second, some videos make it look slower than Christmas and others make it look like its leaping off of the ground, it seems as if, by pavement and time of day, this was several different versions of a " Black Camaro"

Last, getting your can whipped like that by a Prissy Convertible Porsche, which was NOT a 4S, if you slow the video down to look, it was a 2S, is SAD SAD SAD. My old 1992 RS 25th Anniversary would take a Porssche to the edge and if I would have had more motor, it woulda have inked them a new badge.

This car has more tire noise than a Hyundai Accent and more body roll than a 89 Mustang GT.

Lord, I hope the production version is better than this!

P.S., I used to help build Panoz Esperante's and know a few things about tuning, handling, and track testing... This video is simply embaressing, as a former Camaro-lover... Long live my '07 Mustang GT (My first Ford, thanks to GM).


C3

After seeing this post I thought I should join the site and put in my thoughts...C3GM, I don't know if you posted this just to upset all the Camaro fans here but i agree with TAG UR IT when he says that this is TESTING, not racing. For all we know, this Camaro might have 500hp and it might have 200. There is no definite way of telling until January, really. Also, I noticed hardly any body roll and this Camaro proved to stick to the track quite nicely. However, it is obvious that they aren't pushing this one to the most extreme limits in this video and this car could probably handle much more. I hope you are happy with your crappy rustang and I for one can't wait to pull up next to a GT in my shiny new SS. I have no doubt in my mind it will smoke any stang out there...i'd even go as far to say that the 300hp v6 model will probably beat your GT. Better start saving up for that supercharger buddy....

[SoFlaZ]

I'm surprised so many people have never heard a V8 before. To me a V6 and V8 each have a very distinct in sound. V6's are usually higher pitched while V8's are low pitched exactly like in the video. If nobody noticed the Camaro was signaling to the side to let the porsche pass.

[C3GM]

Im not here to get this post off topic, nor am I here to argue like children, its just that this car and the "suspension squish" proves it has suspension travel like an '89 Eldorado. Fact: Tire roar and evidence of hard push into and out of the corners such as this video exemplifies, on an embankment of what is more than 12 degrees, body-roll. You'll notice the Porsche did not have suspension compression as the Camaro did, as it slowed with its turn signal on to move out of the way. The Driver does look inexperienced, as a concession.

I was a pre-order, early GM client of the highly touted and massively failed Chevrolet SSR, when they had a pre-provehicle proving it would be manufactured within 6 months... 2 years later it rolled off of the assmebly line, I had long since cancelled... GM has a history, which is why I have pre-pro info this time. GM once again is having issues with testing and I believe we are seeing that in these videos.

I know I am a dissenting voice and quite passionate as I am extremely dissappointed in GM and its production vehicles over the past 8 years (ex. GTO). I still have a Chevrolet Bow-Tie Tattoo on my right arm, colored the same as my first 2 Camaros as proof of my former loyalty to GM. So yea, I don't mind pointing out the failures I see coming out of Detroit(Australia) when its appropriate, and no, I will never be on this forum to sing praises when I see massive faults... I get the impression this site is here as a tool of GM, as their " black ops" if you will. Therefore, I will dissent when necessary. Further... ad hominem attacks because someone makes a typo...? Youch...

I am sure I ll be remioved from this site since I can't seem to agree with everyone and praise something I don't believe in... That should be par for the course... I ll be interested to see just how much longer I last here...HAHA

C3

For those who care* ---I traded my Bonneville GXP for my current GT Mustang, because I grew tired of promises from GM that they can't fullfill in reasonable time frames... ala the SSR. It has rattles, but what Ford doesn't?

Originally Posted by Mythic

Hows your buddy's "08 pre-pro Black Convertable Z28?

:troll:

check their other posts.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...8915#post38915
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...0334#post20334
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...0335#post20335

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Well, you sure are entitled to your opinion!

Regarding the Porsche passing the Camaro, I had the initial, "WTF!?!", but then quickly realized that we really haven't a clue as to what was going on at that time. There are so many possibilities regarding why the P passed the Camaro. Did it appear to you as though the Camaro sped off as quickly as it could have once the Porsche passed the Camaro? I don't think so. This is all for testing...which means it won't be running full bore 100% the entire time it's going around the track. At least, that's how I see it.

I agree, it could be a V6 and there could be more than one. We just don't know. Let's try to do like Scott requested and hold our reservations until the final product is revealed!

+1

The Camaro driver turned on his blinker, moved over and slowed way down to let the porsche pass. This was not a true pass. The Camaro saw him comming and moved over, deliberately. I have no idea why the Maro gave way, but the Porsche didn't blow buy the Camaro. Not to say the right Porsche couldn't. But, again, apples to oranges...

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by C3GM

Im not here to get this post off topic, nor am I here to argue like children, its just that this car and the "suspension squish" proves it has suspension travel like an '89 Eldorado. Fact: Tire roar and evidence of hard push into and out of the corners such as this video exemplifies, on an embankment of what is more than 12 degrees, body-roll. You'll notice the Porsche did not have suspension compression as the Camaro did, as it slowed with its turn signal on to move out of the way. The Driver does look inexperienced, as a concession.

I was a pre-order, early GM client of the highly touted and massively failed Chevrolet SSR, when they had a pre-provehicle proving it would be manufactured within 6 months... 2 years later it rolled off of the assmebly line, I had long since cancelled... GM has a history, which is why I have pre-pro info this time. GM once again is having issues with testing and I believe we are seeing that in these videos.

I know I am a dissenting voice and quite passionate as I am extremely dissappointed in GM and its production vehicles over the past 8 years (ex. GTO). I still have a Chevrolet Bow-Tie Tattoo on my right arm, colored the same as my first 2 Camaros as proof of my former loyalty to GM. So yea, I don't mind pointing out the failures I see coming out of Detroit(Australia) when its appropriate, and no, I will never be on this forum to sing praises when I see massive faults... I get the impression this site is here as a tool of GM, as their " black ops" if you will. Therefore, I will dissent when necessary. Further... ad hominem attacks because someone makes a typo...? Youch...

I am sure I ll be remioved from this site since I can't seem to agree with everyone and praise something I don't believe in... That should be par for the course... I ll be interested to see just how much longer I last here...HAHA

C3

For those who care* ---I traded my Bonneville GXP for my current GT Mustang, because I grew tired of promises from GM that they can't fullfill in reasonable time frames... ala the SSR. It has rattles, but what Ford doesn't?

The 2007 Mustang GT is a nice vehicle that is not being marked up at dealers anymore and I won't chastize you for owning a Ford as others on here since I personally own a 1998 Mustang GT which I still use today and works great. Personally, if GM is having issue's with the Camaro, I am confident they will fix most of the issue's with the vehicle by release time and we all know they won't be releasing the top dog Camaro right away anyways which is probably the version they are testing in the ring. In either case, I am going to check out the Dodge Challenger and drive it as soon as I get the chance, and if I fall in love with that car, I might buy that before the Camaro even comes out. However at this point, I think I can be patient enough and wait for the Camaro to give it a good test drive.

[SilverTurtle]

nice

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by SoFlaZ

I'm surprised so many people have never heard a V8 before. To me a V6 and V8 each have a very distinct in sound. V6's are usually higher pitched while V8's are low pitched exactly like in the video. If nobody noticed the Camaro was signaling to the side to let the porsche pass.

I saw that and I also noticed that he signalled way long before the Porche even came close, so it's obvious that the Camaro knew he was back there and ket him go by on purpose. It's pretty clear these protos are hand built and probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and they're NOT there to race other cars.

Another point to consider is these are in fact prototypes and if you know what that truly means then you know that they may break or fail in some random manner at any time. Best to keep from doing this while as far as possible from other cars, right?

The 5th Gens are there with specific purposes and I'm sure none of them is to race.

[Fandango]

Originally Posted by C3GM

Is this the poor excuse for a Camaro we are going to get?

First off, it sounds like a 4 or a 6 cylinder, and no I am not just saying that to get people mad, It truly does.

Second, some videos make it look slower than Christmas and others make it look like its leaping off of the ground, it seems as if, by pavement and time of day, this was several different versions of a " Black Camaro"

Last, getting your can whipped like that by a Prissy Convertible Porsche, which was NOT a 4S, if you slow the video down to look, it was a 2S, is SAD SAD SAD. My old 1992 RS 25th Anniversary would take a Porssche to the edge and if I would have had more motor, it woulda have inked them a new badge.

This car has more tire noise than a Hyundai Accent and more body roll than a 89 Mustang GT.

Lord, I hope the production version is better than this!

P.S., I used to help build Panoz Esperante's and know a few things about tuning, handling, and track testing... This video is simply embaressing, as a former Camaro-lover... Long live my '07 Mustang GT (My first Ford, thanks to GM).


C3

Oh God not C3PO again.

First off, don't keep kicking yourself in the ass for buying a Ford.

I just got finished reading some of the posts and watching the video. The car is flawless.

As far as C3PO....hope you don't mind your doors being blown off by a Chevy, if that is indeed a GT that you own.