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Old 04-24-2013, 02:31 PM   #645
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Theres no security cameras in space. Irrelevent comparison.
Doesn't matter. The only way we know of that fact is by putting our faith in and believing other people.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:31 PM   #646
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If they have a video of him dropping the backpack it will be held as evidence until a trial. If they didn't do it Who do you think did it then?
Let me guess it was some Gevernment Black Ops team dumb enough to wear CRAFT Int. gear making them stand out like sore thumbs?

Eyewitness Testimony or Evidence (Sure he'll be called to tesitfy)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...quiz-plot.html

This is the guy who shot the video of the original gunfight with Cops. So I guess an INNOCENT man rolls some type of device at Cops after lighting it and then runs towards them as it explodes? Maybe he was just screaming "its all a mistake"??
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:32 PM   #647
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Jordan's logic is flawed on so many different levels. I'm not going to go into it, I'll let his professor explain it to him. He is now arguing for the sake of arguing.

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Jordan23, none of the folks on this forum are either the defense attorneys or prosecuting attorneys associated with the upcoming trial.

Until the trial is concluded, only the attorneys and law enforcement are going to be privy to ALL of the evidence. Once the trial is under way, the evidence will be freely available for everyone to view and pour over once it becomes public record.

Until such time that it is public record, all anyone can do is speculate.

While I agree that innocence until proven guilty is a staple of the American justice system, that doesn't mean we (the folks completely outside of this specific trial) are all required to refrain from opinion until the trial is complete.


I am not the justice system, and as such, I am not required to show you squat. Everything posted here is an opinion. If you want us to prove you wrong, you're barking up the wrong tree. We don't have to prove anything to you. If you want to believe he's innocent until you see evidence to the contrary, then you are free and welcome to hold that stance.
Thanks for saving me some typing

As for the previous discussions; I've really enjoyed all the sharing of different views. And at least the topic I wanted to bring to point, was discussed at length (so people are thinking of it).

Oh one more thing before I go and just monitor this thread for any other interesting concepts that may be brought up. For those that want to continue this foray into poorly designed logic/theory, use this video and then extrapolate so many other things from there;
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MIT cop? Anyone? Why isnt he mentioned in the FBI series of very detailed events?
instead of dismissing every piece of "evidence", why not give your view on things? what is that video of, of the "shoutout", that you don't believe exists? all the pictures provided, are they all photoshopped? maybe the bombs never happened? you better put on your tin foil hat.
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This is blocked at work can someone watch and see if there's gun shot fired in the video?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=705_1366653441
Yes but not by either of the brothers. The video only shows the brothers trying to light something with what appears to be a lighter.
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The only way we know of that fact is by putting our faith in and believing other people.
faith and believing in people

dammit now i should not believe in the moon landing?!
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instead of dismissing every piece of "evidence", why not give your view on things? what is that video of, of the "shoutout", that you don't believe exists? all the pictures provided, are they all photoshopped? maybe the bombs never happened? you better put on your tin foil hat.
Is this even real life? What if we're all just batteries for machines brainwashed into believing a computer simulated dreamworld?

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Old 04-24-2013, 02:34 PM   #652
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faith and believing in people

dammit now i should not believe in the moon landing?!
No. There are no security cameras in space. According to Jordan23, since there were no security cameras and you weren't there, you shouldn't believe in it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:35 PM   #653
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AS for the Cop being shot and it not being in the FEDERAL indictment.

State is probably charging him seperately since that will get the death penalty in Ma. in addition to whatever Federal crimes he is found guilty of
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I already saw those pics on a conspiracy website. I dont see guns being shot. I see two guys hiding with headlights shined on them and no police lights.
Good lord almighty, Jordan. God bless your soul.

Please tell me just one cell phone that can take a picture of a bullet leaving a gun, at night, about 30 feet up, and about 40 feet away.

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Im not trying to be right. I didnt see any "shootout". What are you looking at?


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If I was a government agent I would include a cop being killed in my official report of the events over multiple days. I wouldnt include a $45 robbery and not a cop killing. Good try though.
I'm starting to think that the only reason you're carrying this on is because they didn't include the cop..

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I think we have different definitions of "evidence". I cant take a bunch of news story in a court room and get a conviction.
I just think you have an unrealistic definition of evidence.

According to your posts, evidence is not real evidence unless you see it with your very own eyes.

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I've never seen a million dollars. must not be real.
According to Jordan23, it is fake.

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I've seen a few police searches, cops usually turn off lights, so the suspects don't see where they are, as easily. it's also easier for cops to see what they are looking for, without strobes going off...
The intelligence just keeps pouring out.

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Yes. You can buy your own camera, balloon, and GPS and see for yourself. Its fun.
Incorrect.

Technically, when you send the balloon up, it's not even going into space. It's going to the very top of Earth's atmosphere.

Plus, you're the one that said if it comes from a camera, it's not real.

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Theres no security cameras in space. Irrelevent comparison.
Actually there is on this bad boy.

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Yes but not by either of the brothers. The video only shows the brothers trying to light something with what appears to be a lighter.
actually, I think the first 3 shots were fired by one of the brothers, as he was getting out of the SUV. there were 4 shots in that video. the first 3 louder than the 4th...

hard to see, because one of the brothers is not in the video during the first 3 shots. at least not all of him.

edit: you can kind of see the burst from the 3rd shot, coming from one of the bombers.
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Jordan's logic is flawed on so many different levels. I'm not going to go into it, I'll let his professor explain it to him. He is now arguing for the sake of arguing.
Well if he's truly doing it for a project (we don't know for sure, there aren't security cameras to confirm this, but apparently he is), he probably needs to add a few pages onto his report so he's grasping at straws to find more sources.

Just hope he properly cites us all on his works cited page.
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too many quotes jordan, i have brain overload.
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Actually there is on this bad boy.

Ah haha. Owned.
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