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Old 04-25-2013, 02:11 AM   #85
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They don't make them like they used too.
If you're talking about mechanical quality, that's a good thing. Most of those cars fetch a price now because most of them have been junked at this point because the concept of buying a car to keep it in the garage and look at it, or considering it an investment is a more modern line of thought. So they were used, and eventually worn out.

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Also, majority of today's cars look too much alike. There are no defining lines like back in the day when a model only ran for a year or two. Now, a model will run 4-6 years and sometimes longer with only headlight and tail light changes.
This statement is wholly inaccurate. There are actually a lot of cars made during those periods that look alike. It's not a new thing. Assembly line production favors single products or multiple products that don't deviate that far from a standard. Just like the "samey" cars of today will eventually be, the majority of older car lines have mostly been forgotten or don't generate a blip on the collector radar.

Also, the only reason we have short production runs in the 60's and 70's was due to the enaction of CAFE standards, and implementation of new production and design methods to meet those standards, with companies rushing new designs in an effort to work out the kinks. It also only affected the first gen Camaro (67-69) (which was a late comer to the muscle car party) as the next gens lasted 11, 10, and 9 years. In fact, if they release a new Camaro in MY2015 or 2016 this would be the second shortest run behind the first. Also if you do some lookups on the other competitor muscle cars (Charger, Mustang) they had fairly long production runs of most, if not all of their generations.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:17 PM   #86
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Its all about supply and demand. Just like the 60s muscle cars, today's cars will not begin to appreciate until the vast majority of them are used up an in junk yards. Only when very few are left will they begin to appreciate again, with only those in rather good condition doing so.

And while there may be a point where these cars will start to appreciate, I wouldn't ever count on them exploding in value like some of the older stuff out there does. That has more to do with there being an entire generation of baby boomers with lots of money psychologically incapable of accepting that they are not 20, and it is not 1968 anymore fighting for a limited supply of cars as if having one will make them 20 and the year 1968 again.

Don't expect the same to happen with this generation, as overall, a lower percentage of them are as interested in cars, and two, even fewer of them can afford today's muscle cars, meaning in 30 years, fewer of them will be buying them out of having a mid- to late life crisis.
That's about the dumbest comment I've seen on here in the last 20 minutes. Yes, I'm a so called Baby Boomer. I'm pretty sure I'm not 20 any more, duh? Way back machines don't exist. I'm also pretty sure since you're obviousley a Gen x,y,z, or what ever label you have placed on yourself, that when you are my age, you'll be wishing you were back in the glory days as well. Keep in mind that everyone gets old if they're lucky enough to live that long. That includes you.

Youth is so wasted on the young. Ok, go agead with your adolescent response....I'm listening!Really I am.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:34 PM   #87
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The third gens are just now starting to become collectible but you can still get them dirt cheap. The oldest is 31 and the youngest is 21.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:36 PM   #88
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:32 PM   #89
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GAIN value???

.....perhaps a low mileage special edition or low production model in perfect condition….in a few decades. GM is producing/selling thousands of these cars.
While I don't believe that modern, mass produced cars will ever hold the same future appeal that older cars do now, to say that they won't increase in value because 'GM is producing/selling thousands' isn't entirely accurate. GM produced 220,906 Camaros in 1967, some are nearly priceless because of rare option combinations. Therein lies what will hold current generation cars from being so 'collectable'. You can't order up your Camaro your way like you could back then. You can't add or delete options at will. So there are very few, truly rare, cars built today. All ZL1's for instance are relatively identical. With the exception of the hood insert and 2 choices of wheels, they all have the same bumpers, same spoilers, etc.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:51 PM   #90
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There will definitely come a day when they regain value...I just may not be around to see it. The question came to mind because I will have to store mine in about 5 years when my kids hit the driving age...have to make room in the stable for a "kid" type car. So it will sit in storage for probably 5 years. Was just thinking by then it will already be almost 15 years old by the time I bring it back out
Why the hell would you have to store your car when the kids hit driving age Sorry but that has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard!
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:55 PM   #91
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Before the 5th gen goes up, the 3rd gen has to go up.

I'm pretty sure that's never going to happen so I wouldn't hold out much hope.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:12 PM   #92
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Before the 5th gen goes up, the 3rd gen has to go up.

I'm pretty sure that's never going to happen so I wouldn't hold out much hope.

not necessarily. people have to want it for it to go up in value. the number that exist or don't exist isn't nearly as important as some are trying to make it out to be. even if there are 10 million, if 100 million people want one the value will go up. but even that will be effected by how much those people are willing to pay for one. likewise, if there are only 10, but nobody wants one, the value will never increase despite there only being 10

that's why you can never guess what will be valuable and what wont. there's no way of knowing what demand for something will be 20, 30, or 40 years after it was produced, and how much those wanting it will be willing to pay.

there's simply nothing outstanding or stand out-ish enough about the current gen camaro to believe it will be a highly sought after car decades from now.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:45 PM   #93
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The day they release the "Fugly Fourteens" ours will go UP in value.
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:22 AM   #94
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I only drive my Camaro occasionally, keep it garaged and well cared for and enjoy it very much when I get it out. I plan on keeping it for a very long time.not for resale value but more for the value it will have to a special family member some day. I have heard many times the story of someone's uncle or grandfather leaving them their favorite car. It usually says they bought the car new and had it forever and passed it on. Well this never happened to me but I like the thought and idea of it so I guess my story will be the one of the giver. I have no idea at this point who I will leave the car to, but anyone who spends time with me and enjoys cars like I do will end up with it. At this moment in time my 2 year old granddaughter loves working with me in the garage and taking the Camaro out for a spin. So to my point ,value and worth have many different perspectives. I hope whoever gets my Camaro some day thinks it is priceless.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:22 AM   #95
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I think the value of the 5th gens will hold its value over the years only to drop off slowly then going back up even slower like the 4th gen. of camaros and firebirds but might be in 20years. During that time there will be kids wanting a cool fast car for cheap then as more accidents and wrecks happen they will go up in value/worth.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:25 AM   #96
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IMO, they will just keep plummeting in value until the roads are dominated 90% by electric cars.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:45 AM   #97
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I am hoping they gain value faster because of the lack of problems upcoming cars will face due to CAFE standards being rediculous in the future and thats right around the corner. As these cars are somewhat of the last big bang for muscle cars even the new vette has AFM to deal with.......
History repeats. I feel this will be the turning point in hp car production IMO. ..look back at the 1973 oil fuel crisis that was the end of muscle car production and many "guzzlers" got crushed. Fuel cost, mpg standards will influence production of ecoomical cars and if you can hold on to your camaro until after a fuel crisis that will bring the value of the car up.
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Old 04-27-2013, 03:43 AM   #98
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The oil crisis in the 70's was not a matter of oil shortage as much as OPEC would only let us have a certain amount which crove down the availability. The EPA forced the end of the muscle cars. We have more oil in this country now than the entire middle east. I don't expect to see anonther oil crisis like that again. The only thing that will limit the manufacture of muscle will be EPA/CAFE standards.

For future value I think the 2010's will have a rise in value maybe in 30 years just like the first gen did. I would expect 2010 to have more value than other 5th gen Camaros just due to the fact it was the revival of the brand after years of no production as well as the fact that there isn't a huge difference between 2010 and 2014.

I would expect that if it is true that 2015 is the beginning of 6th gen, that would make only one year of producing 5th gen Z/28. There won't be 50,000 of them built either, the price is prohibitive of high production numbers. If anyone thinks a 5th gen is a collector that will have huge value 40 years from now, I would go with Z/28, 1LE or maybe ZL1. After 40 years, there will only be a handful of show quality, low mile garage queens. I won't be around in 40 years so I'm having fun with mine while I can. It may be in great shape years from now, but it already has too many miles to be a collector.
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