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If you're talking about mechanical quality, that's a good thing. Most of those cars fetch a price now because most of them have been junked at this point because the concept of buying a car to keep it in the garage and look at it, or considering it an investment is a more modern line of thought. So they were used, and eventually worn out.
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Also, the only reason we have short production runs in the 60's and 70's was due to the enaction of CAFE standards, and implementation of new production and design methods to meet those standards, with companies rushing new designs in an effort to work out the kinks. It also only affected the first gen Camaro (67-69) (which was a late comer to the muscle car party) as the next gens lasted 11, 10, and 9 years. In fact, if they release a new Camaro in MY2015 or 2016 this would be the second shortest run behind the first. Also if you do some lookups on the other competitor muscle cars (Charger, Mustang) they had fairly long production runs of most, if not all of their generations. |
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The third gens are just now starting to become collectible but you can still get them dirt cheap. The oldest is 31 and the youngest is 21.
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very long time
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While I don't believe that modern, mass produced cars will ever hold the same future appeal that older cars do now, to say that they won't increase in value because 'GM is producing/selling thousands' isn't entirely accurate. GM produced 220,906 Camaros in 1967, some are nearly priceless because of rare option combinations. Therein lies what will hold current generation cars from being so 'collectable'. You can't order up your Camaro your way like you could back then. You can't add or delete options at will. So there are very few, truly rare, cars built today. All ZL1's for instance are relatively identical. With the exception of the hood insert and 2 choices of wheels, they all have the same bumpers, same spoilers, etc.
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Sorry but that has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard!
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Before the 5th gen goes up, the 3rd gen has to go up.
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not necessarily. people have to want it for it to go up in value. the number that exist or don't exist isn't nearly as important as some are trying to make it out to be. even if there are 10 million, if 100 million people want one the value will go up. but even that will be effected by how much those people are willing to pay for one. likewise, if there are only 10, but nobody wants one, the value will never increase despite there only being 10 that's why you can never guess what will be valuable and what wont. there's no way of knowing what demand for something will be 20, 30, or 40 years after it was produced, and how much those wanting it will be willing to pay. there's simply nothing outstanding or stand out-ish enough about the current gen camaro to believe it will be a highly sought after car decades from now. |
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The day they release the "Fugly Fourteens" ours will go UP in value.
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I only drive my Camaro occasionally, keep it garaged and well cared for and enjoy it very much when I get it out. I plan on keeping it for a very long time.not for resale value but more for the value it will have to a special family member some day. I have heard many times the story of someone's uncle or grandfather leaving them their favorite car. It usually says they bought the car new and had it forever and passed it on. Well this never happened to me but I like the thought and idea of it so I guess my story will be the one of the giver. I have no idea at this point who I will leave the car to, but anyone who spends time with me and enjoys cars like I do will end up with it. At this moment in time my 2 year old granddaughter loves working with me in the garage and taking the Camaro out for a spin. So to my point ,value and worth have many different perspectives. I hope whoever gets my Camaro some day thinks it is priceless.
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I think the value of the 5th gens will hold its value over the years only to drop off slowly then going back up even slower like the 4th gen. of camaros and firebirds but might be in 20years. During that time there will be kids wanting a cool fast car for cheap then as more accidents and wrecks happen they will go up in value/worth.
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IMO, they will just keep plummeting in value until the roads are dominated 90% by electric cars.
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The oil crisis in the 70's was not a matter of oil shortage as much as OPEC would only let us have a certain amount which crove down the availability. The EPA forced the end of the muscle cars. We have more oil in this country now than the entire middle east. I don't expect to see anonther oil crisis like that again. The only thing that will limit the manufacture of muscle will be EPA/CAFE standards.
For future value I think the 2010's will have a rise in value maybe in 30 years just like the first gen did. I would expect 2010 to have more value than other 5th gen Camaros just due to the fact it was the revival of the brand after years of no production as well as the fact that there isn't a huge difference between 2010 and 2014. I would expect that if it is true that 2015 is the beginning of 6th gen, that would make only one year of producing 5th gen Z/28. There won't be 50,000 of them built either, the price is prohibitive of high production numbers. If anyone thinks a 5th gen is a collector that will have huge value 40 years from now, I would go with Z/28, 1LE or maybe ZL1. After 40 years, there will only be a handful of show quality, low mile garage queens. I won't be around in 40 years so I'm having fun with mine while I can. It may be in great shape years from now, but it already has too many miles to be a collector.
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