WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!!

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by 2L8IWON

Good job on the scissors call. It actually looks like the blade from a pair of hedge clippers to me. That sharp edge on the wider side is for cutting bigger branches. SInce you are an officer who attends trials all the time, you probably realize it's all hindsight by now. It's your word against the stereo shop's and I would have to lean on them not being brave/stupid enough to do something like that on purpose just because you changed your mind, regardless at what point through the install. I'm not saying to be naive about it, but my gut instinct is that something like that would not be used to retaliate. They could have done many things for you to find later, why would they choose that in other words. I'm thinking you simply ran over those on the roadway. I wouldn't give them an apology, but I would just suck it up and move on. My insurance deductible is always too high to even think about claiming a tire plus you risk them raising your rates after any kind of claim. Don't shoot yourself in the foot with that. Just move on and be glad that episode wasn't worse than what it already was.
The price of these tires really bites for the short treadlife they probably get from not being able to rotate them. Eventually, I will want to see a thread on the mileage done on the tires and the better deals owners are finding on different tires. Hopefully, tire rack dot com will eventually have a selection for us to pick from for this car.

Agreed on all points.

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

Well, while it sucks this happened to your baby, on the plus side I can bet every Camaro5 member that read this thread will be getting road hazard on their tires, first thing! I know I am now

Yep...and I've got a new thread for this one! ya'll are going to love it!

Originally Posted by patriotpa

You'd definitely know it if a piece of metal that big was attached to your tire. It would vibrate.

EXACTLY! Sound...feel...I would have known. It was NOT there. But, what can you prove. It's a sad situation.

Originally Posted by RetroDude

Hey Tag,

Did the Audio Shop have any surveillance cameras on your car while it was there? Like most legit businesses nowadays, they have to have them just to keep faults claims from being laid against them for people saying " this was on my car when I brought it to ya! " etc. I know my dealership has outside cameras and when the rims on my 85 Caprice were stolen, the video was used to make the arrest.

If they do have cameras, they have to show you the tapes!

Good luck and I hope you get your money back!

They had a camera that I saw outside and I'm sure they had more inside. I brought that to their attention. But, all is done now and I'm just letting it go. Not going to mess with it any more.

Originally Posted by 25thanniversary

sorry to hear that sucks it's fixable just patch it up. do you think they took your car out for a cruise and ran over the knife. it could happen they do that hear everytime with nice cars. i also ways check my milage before i leave it anywere and right it down that way if it has more charge i them for gas.

No. It was not taken for a cruise. I checked and wrote down the mileage..and made sure the trip meters were high miles so they could not fool with them. and it was not fixable...

Originally Posted by McGruff

Just a thought...

Since the car mesaures the PSI of the tires, wouldn't it be in the car's computer when the flat occured?

I thought of this too. But, even thought it went down later, they still will claim that I could have run over it earlier...and they guy claims he parked it, and when they went to work on it, backed it up for more room...thus, allowing the metal to come off the ground and air to escape. ...I'm like...whatever...this is a crock if I ever hear it....

Originally Posted by ItIsWhatItIs

Tag,
Remember when we met up at that rest stop returning from Carlisle? I had an alert that my right rear was at 31#. Checked the door and pressure should have been at 36#. There just might be a way to get that computer read. Also, wouldn't Onstar have an alert and possible time? Just a thought. I didn't know those tires cost that much!

Yep. But, after all is said and done, it only proves that the air came out later...not that they actually did it. Saying it was moved might put that reason of doubt in the mix and I'm still in the same spot. It's just ridiculous....but, ...what can I do. I'm stuck.

[Vash]

It does look like they might of been doing some burnout with it. They might of figured you set the ODO but if they just burned out in the parking lot with it.

See the smudges? Those normally come off after a few miles of driving.

They suck... sorry Tag.

[SummoneR]

WOW!
just WOW!

[TAG UR IT]

Oh...and I only set that piece in there for the pix. It went all the way in.

[TheNetGarage]

1 - That Tire could have ben patched from the inside........without question.

2 - Tire rack has the tires for $372 Front, $413 Back. They are in stock and can ship for next day.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...&filterType=oe

3 - That was done on purpose. Never complain and then leave your car anywhere, not even the dealer, people suck.

Sorry to see your trouble, take the old tire to a real tire place and get it patched as a spare.

[TAG UR IT]

1. You are correct. However, we could put 3 screwdrivers through that hole w/out problem. THAT was what we were worried about. It could be patched, but it was "highly likely" that it would leak or that I could have issues later on at high speeds. Umm.......high speed and issues don't work well together for me.

2. Yes, that is a great price. But, that is not inclusive of mounting, balancing, etc., I'm sure. Will next day shipping get it there the next day?...or the day after? No one had my tire and I could not drive it from Monday to Wednesday since there was no spare.

3. Quite possibly. I agree. And I agree some more.

Thanks for the apology, but...what can I do... I'd love to get it patched, but I just don't want to chance it.

[songsj]

That was done on purpose. Never complain and then leave your car anywhere, not even the dealer, people suck.

I hate to say it but this is good advice, the last thing you want to do is piss the guy off who will be working on your baby. If it comes to this go somewhere else.

[Corvin]

your a cop, you should have had the knife fingerprinted then have all the people at that shop printed and if anyone matched the print on the knife then just come back to that shop in uniform and arrest him that would be awesome!

[Vash]

Originally Posted by Corvin

your a cop, you should have had the knife fingerprinted then have all the people at that shop printed and if anyone matched the print on the knife then just come back to that shop in uniform and arrest him that would be awesome!

I think they ran over something and just made the knife part up.

You can see a deep gouge in the center and the fresh burn marks.

Unless you burned out right before or during drop off.

Sorry man on your birthday to be so negatory.

[Splitter]

looks like a sawzal blade o.O

[Vash]

Ok here is my new theory. They took the car around the back of the store and did a burnout and the high rotation is what made the knife cause the damage vs just normal speed. The burn marks and the gouge look like some heat was involved.

Horseplay is possible culprit. I would ask the local shops if they heard anyone doing a burnout.

[redjewel]

Originally Posted by TheNetGarage

1 - That Tire could have ben patched from the inside........without question.

RMA guidlines for a safe repair are not to be bigger than 1/4 inch. That things is way bigger than that. Do not use just a patch. The injury must be filled with a rubber plug like material and then patched. All major Tire Retailers will not fix a tire that does not conform to RMA guidelines. All tire manufacturers recommend a repair be done according to the RMA guidlines.
The guy could put three screwdrives in the puncture so definatley way too big. That tire could not be repaired properly or they would have fixed it. There is so much incorrect information on the net it is rediculous.
The best I could come up with is a sample poster of RMA guidlelines. Sample but accurate.

[camaro5]

That sucks dude! Some bad luck.

For future reference, I believe the tire could have been repaired with an inside patch, not plugs.


On another note, I grow more jealous of your car daily!!

[TheNetGarage]

Originally Posted by redjewel

RMA guidlines for a safe repair are not to be bigger than 1/4 inch. That things is way bigger than that. Do not use just a patch. The injury must be filled with a rubber plug like material and then patched. All major Tire Retailers will not fix a tire that does not conform to RMA guidelines. All tire manufacturers recommend a repair be done according to the RMA guidlines.
The guy could put three screwdrives in the puncture so definatley way too big. That tire could not be repaired properly or they would have fixed it. There is so much incorrect information on the net it is rediculous.
The best I could come up with is a sample poster of RMA guidlelines. Sample but accurate.

I understand Tags Decision, we are talking about a car that you push to the edge at times. Tires under those loads, patches can cause issues. Interesting reading, although not everyone follows those guidelines. I had a tire on my Truck patched that was about an inch long. It was a Piece of steel strap, freak thing, but the tire lasted another 2 years (20,000 more miles approx). But that was a truck, not a sports car.

I am not cheap when it comes to tires, I usually replace my "Summer Tires" at between 15-20,000 miles. They loose their edge, and when you like to corner, like I do, they stop being as safe, or as tight.