Wanted RJT rocker panels, warning on RS tailights

[flht99b]

FYI, local dealer got in another SS/RS car with non RS taillights. How about a comment from FBODFATHER on what is going on here. Did GM make a running change here to remove the dark tint taillights from RS optioned cars ??

[Matrix]

Originally Posted by flht99b

If anyone has a set of undamaged Red Jewel Tintcoat rocker panels that they would like to part with ( like from installing the ground effects package ) I would be willing to buy them. Long story short either Oshawa ( my opinion ) or the freight/trucking company ( dealership opinion ) damaged the driver side rocker panel on my 2SS/RS RJT Camaro. The dealer/GM solution is a new GM supplied rocker panel with the dealership painting it which I find unacceptable. I didn't buy a brand new repaired car, sorry GM, the check I handed the dealer wasn't damaged or repaired.
The other wonderful part of my 2010 Camaro "experience" is Oshawa installed 3 standard and 1 RS tailight in my 2SS/RS Camaro. GM shipped 3 replacement tailights with the RS part number and clearly marked for an RS car BUT they are standard Camaro tailights, not the darker RS tailights. So glad we outsourced jobs to Mexico where the Camaro tailights are produced. If anyone from GM is listening you have lost a 30 year GM customer. If any Camaro5 member can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks...Ed M.

Whilst I epathise with you greatly, wtf does this have to do with it being outsourced to mexico? I find your comment "high school" drama'ish and offensive. Dont you dare say EVEYTHING made in USA is perfect. Nothing is perfect and neither is any auto maker. When 1000's of cars are sold there will be someone with issues. Unfortunately it was you. Im sorry, I feel for you but let them sort the mistake out.

RESPECT!

[PsyDoc]

Originally Posted by Matrix

Whilst I epathise with you greatly, wtf does this have to do with it being outsourced to mexico? I find your comment "high school" drama'ish and offensive. Dont you dare say EVEYTHING made in USA is perfect. Nothing is perfect and neither is any auto maker. When 1000's of cars are sold there will be someone with issues. Unfortunately it was you. Im sorry, I feel for you but let them sort the mistake out.

RESPECT!

I think what the post meant was that by outsourcing so much GM loses a little bit of oversight and/or control. It's sort of like the kindergarten game "telephone." You whisper into someone's ear a brief story that was 2-3 sentences long. They, in turn, whisper it to the next person and so-on. After it got to the last person, the story was very different from the original. It's still a story, but there were several missteps along the way.

[BlueMarlin]

GMs fault for putting the wrong taillights on
Truckers fault for probably swerving and messing up your panel
Your fault for accepting it in the condition it is.

33%-33%-33% blame sound fair?

GM needs to make this right tho

[shank0668]

I would like to believe your story but somehow cant. You are the only person reporting of these taillight differences.

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by Countach

dude i totally agree with you. The customer is always right, and to screw up with headlamps is totally unacceptable

Customer is certainly not always right (not judging in this case, but in general that phrase drives me nuts) To quote my favorite sign:

The customer is not always right. Most of the time, the customer is a clueless moron. If this sign offends you, you are this moron.

Again, I'm not saying the customer is or isn't right in this case, but the customer is definitely not always right. For proof, see here

[bluch]

Originally Posted by Banshee

You were complaining about the color not matching correctly, correct?

The chances of you getting the correct tint, shade, paint lay from another car, IMO, is just as great as if you had the rockers painted at the shop.

You should NOT have accepted the car.<PERIOD

By accepting the car as is, you agreed to accept delivery of car, with apparent flaws, as-is.

SH(T happens. I don't know about you, but you, me, them, GM, and Oshawa is not perfect. Yes, I agree, your check was not damaged or repaired, but again, I say, you accepted the car...your responsibility.

I go to store, grab a bag of chips, open them up, eat a handful and realize they are not the sour cream and cheddar I wanted or thought I grabbed, You think the store is going to give me a refund?

Suck it up and quit bad mouthing GM. GM is your scapegoat for your obvious lack of inspection of your $38,000 Camaro.

[Dee]

Shame on GM for taillights. Shame on you for taking delivery of a damaged camaro.

[radianteclipse]

Originally Posted by marticus24

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...24&postcount=7

Just an observation. You bought the SS/RS package right? But your SS badges are white, not the standard red which means RS package. I dont know if they use a diff color on the red, but I thought I would mention it. It may have already been mentioned, and if so, my bad... So it looks like not only are your tail lights incorrect, but you have incorrect colored badges. That sucks. (Unless of course, you ordered the white badges).

[FxsX24]

maybe the supplier is putting RS tails in LT/SS boxes???? if they are labeled as RS then the supplier is packaging them wrong, they may not notice all 4 being wrong in QC, and the one being correct may have been missed in a reflection or something

[flht99b]

Red SS badges = RS optioned car.
No, dealer confirms that there are other RS optioned cars with wrong taillights AND replacements sent from Mexico are wrong also.
"Taking delivery of Damaged Camaro", um, dealer stands there and puts in writing to repair and replace defects BUT CANNOT gets parts from GM.
Some of you need to think before you type.

[Old Timer]

There is a lesson to be leaned from every experience. When you pick up your new car take the time to completely inspect the car before you drive off. This means top & bottom. Don't tell the dealer to leave the car alone & not touch it. Don't be overwhelmed by the euphoria of finally being able to drive off into the sunset. Because, if you do not check everything, some friend of yours will point it out to you as soon as you get home & the process of driving yourself crazy has started. All that being said, the only thing that gets painted at the final assembly plant is the body of the car, this means no bumpers or bolt on or screw on parts. All of these parts are painted by individual suppliers. So be carefull when you sign on the dotted line, after all, you have waited for what seems like a lifetime for the car, a few more minutes won't hurt.

[stovt001]

I second that. I bought my Cobalt with some dealer dress-up add ons, including wheels. The car had a faulty battery from the factory which was replaced by the dealership before I took delivery and they threw in an extended warranty for my troubles, so during delivery I was more concerned about making sure everything mechanical and electrical checked out. Unfortunately, I didn't realize the new wheels the dealer put on were slightly mismatched. They were the same size, but the wheels on the right side had a deeper lip than the wheels on the left. I realized this later and told the dealership, but they said their intent was the put the deeper lips on the back, shallow lips on the front for a staggered look, so rotating the wheels to that position was the extent of the fix I could get out of them. Then when rotating the wheels they apparently overtightened a lug, which sheered off the next day. I was in a different city and couldn't get it back to the same dealer, so I had another dealer fix it but can't get the dealer that caused it to reimburse me. The tires were also a size too big - they fit on the wheel but were bigger than the stock wheel-tire overall height. Once I fixed that, the car drove much, much better. Everything - braking, handling, ride - was noticeably better*. Still can't get the dealer to reimburse that either. So the moral of the story is to break out the white gloves and magnifying glass when you take delivery. Look at everything, especially if it is something the dealer might have screwed up. It is far easier to get things fixed before they close the sale than after. Look how they threw in an extended warranty on their own initiative after the battery had to be replaced before delivery, just to keep my sale, but they didn't do anything to help me later.

* A note about tire size. This is tangential to the thread, but a while back when poor reviews of the Hennesy Camaro's suspension came out on Edmunds we were concerned about Pedders, which supplied the suspension. I think the tires used had a lot to do with it. Anytime tire height is changed from stock you're compromising the suspension design and driving dynamics will be affected. In this case I think the car was simply overtired and the suspension wasn't altered to match. OK sorry for the thread jack. Back to the problem at hand...

[radianteclipse]

Hey man just realized those were not pics of your actual car. It was just used to demonstrate the diff between RS and non RS lights. Mea Culpa. Not sure what I was thinking... not even right color of red.