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Old 06-30-2013, 12:02 AM   #3459
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Lol I doubt it.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:05 AM   #3460
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Welcome realcanuk! Glad your here, could use you input in here, I know you know your stuff too.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:06 AM   #3461
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You lost me on that one hemp.. parameters and shiz I don't follow.. but I'm rown for saving 200. Guessing to bypass a afr gauge?
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:09 AM   #3462
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In his forst post he was mocking litles build. I HOPE it was all in good fun. lol.
haha guess i didnt put two and two together!
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:11 AM   #3463
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You lost me on that one hemp.. parameters and shiz I don't follow.. but I'm rown for saving 200. Guessing to bypass a afr gauge?
The standard version doesn't have the analog inputs is all, so we use a known pid and switch our sensor in. Then you have to tell vcm suite what to do with the signal. Apply a different formula to the now switched in wideband and voila... You don't need analog inputs on your handheld.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:11 AM   #3464
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^^ im with you on that one K32
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:13 AM   #3465
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O.o

Sloooow doooowwn.. lol.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:15 AM   #3466
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Ok what part do you want me to clarify... We can get through this!
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:22 AM   #3467
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Lol. Lemme go quote this..

The standard version of what?
doesn't have the analog inputs, what's that mean/matter?
, so we use a known pid(pid?)
and switch our sensor in. (what does it sense?)
Then you have to tell vcm suite (hotel room? vcm?)
what to do with the signal. What do you do with the signal?
Apply a different formula (how?)
to the now switched in wideband (the afr wideband sensor?)
and voila... You don't need analog inputs on your handheld. (<- huh?)

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Old 06-30-2013, 12:28 AM   #3468
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Hahahahaha!

First of all, you don't care if you're not thinking of tuning your own car. Second.... I'm gonna have to sit down at the computer. My phone can't keep up!

Gotta blow up an air matress for a teenie bopper sleepover first though. She's supposed to drive next year... Utterly terrifying.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:31 AM   #3469
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Ok. So I don't care.. but it doesn't hurt to learn. lol.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:33 AM   #3470
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Are you done BLOWING YET?
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:37 AM   #3471
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There he is! Litle's back for our sleep over and beer drinking!

Uh Oh! Better not tell me on second thought. That may belong in the tuning section.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:47 AM   #3472
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Are you done BLOWING YET?
Yuuuup. Heavy stuff moved... back to business!

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The standard version of what?

HP Tuners VCM Suite. Pro is $649, Standard is $499.

doesn't have the analog inputs, what's that mean/matter?

You have to use a handheld with all of these tuning softwares. The HP Tuners Standard doesn't accept the analog inputs necessary to feed it a wideband O2 signal for tuning purposes.

, so we use a known pid(pid?)

PID is just an acronym for process ID. It's just something that the ECM is doing. In this case, we're taking over an A/C signal to the computer.

and switch our sensor in. (what does it sense?)

Precise AFR so we know what is going on instead of relying on MAF or stock narrowband O2 sensors.

Then you have to tell vcm suite (hotel room? vcm?)
what to do with the signal. What do you do with the signal?
Apply a different formula (how?)

VCM suite can read existing signals over OBDII. That means you don't need an analog input on the handheld to hook your wideband O2 into. You splice a 3 position switch (on/off/on) into an existing ECM signal wire and switch in the wideband when you want to tune on the car.

to the now switched in wideband (the afr wideband sensor?)
and voila... You don't need analog inputs on your handheld. (<- huh?)

So you tell VCM Suite (the tuning software) that you want it to use a different equation on that PID. That's how you fudge in a wideband with the cheaper standard version.
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Uh Oh! Better not tell me on second thought. That may belong in the tuning section.


Here is a good explanation.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1560281575-post5.html
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