2012 2ss l99 vs cocky kid 5.0

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by aggieguy13

*modded SC

Ah, that makes more sense.

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by aggieguy13

before i bought my 02 SLP SS i was looking at a '09 gt500. except they slapped the terminator super charger in it. nice car. just ended up outa my range. but have no regrets about getting the SLP instead. try to explain to people that its not a "bias" its a choice. personal likes/dislikes. and shooting the shlt with numbers is always fun. but i mean at the end of the day Crustangs are still v8's could be worse.

could be one of these little peices of garbage.

i took SS for looks.. i could of bought a faster car.. just wanted RWD car that would fit wide tires.. I can always add power.. shit my old 4 cylinder was a 11sec car.. not that hard to make a car faster..
but everyone seems to be stuck on their brand and numbers magazines put out that are in their favor LoL

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by aggieguy13

Shelby is cheating. =]

oportunities- LS is a better platform for mods. yes they will be a little more $.

Longevity- you have to purposely break an LS. 5.0..... time will tell.....
but all it is, is a truck engine with a different top half..... and ford trucks (with ford being my choice of truck, only truck i would buy with mymoney is a Raptor.) are not exactly the sturdiest of engines.

Wow if there wasn't a date on this post I'd swear it was made in early 2010. LS based engines are far from the better platform and it will simply come down to brand preference. Although no one will disagree that it is the cheaper platform to modify if were talking about engine swaps.

As for the truck engine talk would you please specify why if that was true that it would matter?

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by aggieguy13

eh........
60s..... tie
70s..... SS
80.....tie (neither were great)
90..... SS
00's.... SS
10's..... 5.0 is "more efficient" but oportunities/longevity goes to LS

I don't really care about anything previous to the 80's. But from 82-92 it took a 350 in the Camaro to even come close to matching the 302 in a Mustang. Given the G92 305 was close in my opinion it was too little too late. As for 93-02 the GT was far from a competitor for the LS1 but that was about the only time a GM guy can claim a clear cut victory. And after owning 15 different F-Bodies and only 3 Mustangs I'm far from Ford biased.

[87GNX]

I had a 99 z28 it was a pos rattletrap. Worst car ever.

[87GNX]

I loved 87 Irocs.

[302-412]

Originally Posted by Zacks2ssl99

Well I got a run with a stock 2013 5.0 with a air rad intake auto
I have a stainless power LTs k&n intake and no tune
He got me by a noise :/ but I just got my tune from Ted and ill see if I can take him after I install the tune!

Adding a "cold air" intake on a 5.0 gains you nothing.

[302-412]

Originally Posted by Grabber

Can you explain opportunities and longevity?

I don't argue that the SS has been slightly faster, however, not for 44 years.

In the 70's, the fastest Mustang (Non-Boss 429) was the crappy Windsor 351 you mentioned which was a tick faster than the 1970 Z/28 HC Camaro.

Granted, the Mustangs never were built with a big motor or came with a lot of HP. I think Mustangs stepped it up when the 03/04 Cobra debuted and destroyed the entire Chevy line-up aside from a C5Z (Close race, but the Z was still faster) and the Mach 1, etc.

The 05-09 Model, including the 2010 model which were still current when the SS came out, you are talking a 120+ HP difference and a lot of cubes. However, I've seen plenty of 13.3-13.4 runs out of stock 3V cars, where as most SS's and the Auto's were bottom 13's and high 12's. I'd say despite the LARGE HP and Cube gap, the Mustang was hot on the Camaro's trail, but still fell short in the long run.

All in all, both are great cars. You cannot simply say the Camaro was outright faster every year considering the near 8 year gap they stopped making them and also the 70's were a different story. Now, you are talking about the Standard Mustang. If you compare the fastest with the Fastest, the 67' GT500 was faster than every single model year Camaro until the 4th gen debuted.

What about 68-70 428CJ, 71 429CJ, and 351Boss? These cars where a match with anything the competition had back then. Also I had a stock 83 5.0 Capri RS that ran 14.60's. All with 175hp.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by GQ4Life

The Trans Am WS6 was the better car. that thing looked mean.
Also huge fan of 03-04 cobra that was fast

The ws6 brought nothing more to the table then the SS of the time. Still wasn't a better car. Looks cool? It did 12 years ago, now they look very dated. They have not aged well.

[87GNX]

Mustangs imo, age better than Camaros. Camaros start to look outdated very quickly.

[Zacks2ssl99]

i had a 01 ss and it was a monster on the streets theres wasnt any 99-04 or 05-10 that could come close mod for mod... Mustang should be proud to be able to take a camaro stock for stock now "in a straight line"..

[302-412]

Originally Posted by Deki

The ws6 brought nothing more to the table then the SS of the time. Still wasn't a better car. Looks cool? It did 12 years ago, now they look very dated. They have not aged well.

Except I think the Chevy Ram Air ducting was a little like 40 miles of bad road.

[302-412]

Originally Posted by Zacks2ssl99

i had a 01 ss and it was a monster on the streets theres wasnt any 99-04 or 05-10 that could come close mod for mod... Mustang should be proud to be able to take a camaro stock for stock now "in a straight line"..

People take those LS1 cars a little too lightly. They always impressed the crap out of me. A good running MACH 1 would give one a pretty good go.

[87GNX]

Ls1's were beasts for sure. My 99 was really fast just the car itself was a pos.