2012 2ss l99 vs cocky kid 5.0

[302-412]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

A 2010 GT has absolutely zero chance whatsoever against a 2010 SS on a track.
If you have to compare the GT500 to the base SS, that's just sad...

So why didn't Motor Trend run an SS against an BMW M3 on a road course?

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by 302-412

So why didn't Motor Trend run an SS against an BMW M3 on a road course?

Who knows?
Why didn't Motor Trend run a 2010 GT against the M3 either?
You might want to learn your mustang year models before you brag on them... 2010 GT is the 4.6 still

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by 302-412

So explain, why is the 5.8 GT500 is more powerful than the ZR1??? And don't give me this change the pulley, long tube crap, the fact remains that warranty concerns dictate what power level these respective top tier engines are allowed to operate at. Just how much time and money do you think are spent on durability testing, more than performance testing you can be sure. I don't think GM is in a position be on the short end of warranty issues right now.

Because they didnt want to match the ZR1 power.
It's all a game gt500 550hp so they make ZL1 580hp..
So then they make gt500 650hp..
They will bump ZL1 after they bump up new zr1

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Found this pretty interesting sinse you guys are argueing about the 2010 model year cars. Car and driver says the mustang was the best handling car in 2010.
Which is nice to know. But we are now in 2013 and the Camaro took the title back.

It can be "better handling" according to a magazine editor all it wants, still slower around a track

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Which track? They are all different. Some tracks will give an advantage to a more powerful car with longer straight aways. Other tighter more technical tracks will reward a smaller lighter more nimble car.

Not enough of a difference in size or nimbleness to make up for the huge speed disadvantage

Not in my professionally unprofessional opinion at least:p

[302-412]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

Who knows?
Why didn't Motor Trend run a 2010 GT against the M3 either?
You might want to learn your mustang year models before you brag on them... 2010 GT is the 4.6 still

Miss typed.... friend.

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

Not enough of a difference in size or nimbleness to make up for the huge speed disadvantage

Not in my professionally unprofessional opinion at least:p

Im not suggesting the '10 was faster than the '10 SS, just that perhaps it handled better. And certainly the '10 GT500 did.

and we all know being faster and putting up faster lap times doesn't mean it handles better or is a better track car.

my point was that as crappy as Mustangs handle, they did quite well against the Camaro when it came out with an IRS. But, as others have said elsewhere, thats not saying that much.

[aggieguy13]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Taxis and cop cars use 4.6's.

I'm going to throw my 'douche' stick into the foray here.

If the Mustangs handle SOO shitty with their log-crap-tastic solid rears, why did it take until 2012 *zl1* and 2013 *1le* to out-handle a track pack GT and Boss?

Because as horribly crappy and terrible as they are *humor me* the IRS equipped camaro was on the losing end big time in 2010/2011 (to be fair, I know that is only a two year span, but still...if the mustang is really that bad, what gives?)

Are you honestly that dense? The 1LE is nothing but a "track pack" unlike the boss, zl1, gt500. It is not a different model than the original. And the 1LE puts up faster lap times than the gt500 and the boss 302 Laguna seca. Which are fords pride. And that is stock ls3 with a "track pack".

[aggieguy13]

Originally Posted by trademaster

Neither of the bold words mean what you seem to think they mean. The GT500 is built in house by Ford and was developed by SVT like the cobra was. Dealers don't build cars.

It's an external contract. Which doesn't exist anymore. Because its anAFTERMARKET company. Once could get "factory" SLP camaros. So your saying that I can include SLP as a regular camaro? Same concept with JCW minis. It's still an aftermarket shop calling the shots on the cars

[aggieguy13]

Effectively boss 302 LS is Fords personal " top car" come next year there will be no dealer sold gt500 as the AFTERMARKET shop Shelby. Had pulled its contract. Yet there will still be zl1/z28.

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by 302-412

Miss typed.... friend.

Happens to the best of us

[Deki]

Originally Posted by aggieguy13

It's an external contract. Which doesn't exist anymore. Because its anAFTERMARKET company. Once could get "factory" SLP camaros. So your saying that I can include SLP as a regular camaro? Same concept with JCW minis. It's still an aftermarket shop calling the shots on the cars

The gt500 is made by Ford. Shelby does not do anything to the gt500 what so ever. And just to clarify 2 things: the zl1 was ran on a dry track, the gt500 was ran on a damn track a few days later. The boss 302 was ran the year prior, so none of those times can be compared to each other.

[newmoon]

All this mag testing boasting going on in here. As mentioned earlier unless the testing was same day same time it's not valid imo. These 1LE guys pumping their chest need to get out there and actually race their cars. You might get a rude awakening by that 5.0, Boss, or 500 you so freely dismiss.

[aggieguy13]

Originally Posted by newmoon

All this mag testing boasting going on in here. As mentioned earlier unless the testing was same day same time it's not valid imo. These 1LE guys pumping their chest need to get out there and actually race their cars. You might get a rude awakening by that 5.0, Boss, or 500 you so freely dismiss.

I've drivin in and head to head against all three. Except I haven't personally drivin a newer gt500. I almost bought a 09 gt500 but got my 02 SLP instead. No one said there not "good cars" just not the same