K&N Replacement Air Filter

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by SSOOCH

Be careful. I know people who have had their warranties voided out because the oil in the K&N jacked up some senors. (not in the new Camaro but other cars).

dont know about the warranties being voided, but I have seen a few MAF sensors burn out due to an over oiling.

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

K&N's will not void your warranty. Problem is people oil filters that already oiled or over oil them when cleaning.

Originally Posted by scrming

then the people you know were intimidated by the service manager that doesn't know the law... Even if you over oil the filter the WORST that will happen is the MAF sensor needs to be cleaned which is no big deal...

They certainly didn't get their warranty voided... the dealership gave them a hard time about fixing some thing... I've heard of dealerships trying to blame a front end suspension problem because of an aftermarket exhaust... LOL!

You simply need to know your rights!

except that when the MAF is dirty, it gives innaccurate readings and can cause the motor to go lean/rich which could cause further damage to the motor itself.

Originally Posted by mmbarberoilman

Ask the dirt bike guys or the diesel crowd about all the dirt a K&N lets in. Look at one in person. Hold it up to any light and look at all those shafts of light coming into it. Those are called holes!! Holes do NOT filter any dirt. How much dirt is good dirt in your motor.

not completely true. the filter material used with a K&N might allow more light thru than a competitors cardboard filter, but you do realize that the material used is a translucent material and allows light to pass thru it.

Originally Posted by MadMaxx

Anything "could" void part of your warranty -- good luck on them proving it. You'd have to be running a dry filter down in a gravel quarry to pull enough debris in to cause failure... and no over-saturation of oil I've ever seen could cause a hydrolock condition.

anyway...

its not a hydrolock condition, just a too lean/rich condition that can foul plugs and burn pistons.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

dont know about the warranties being voided, but I have seen a few MAF sensors burn out due to an over oiling.




except that when the MAF is dirty, it gives innaccurate readings and can cause the motor to go lean/rich which could cause further damage to the motor itself.


not completely true. the filter material used with a K&N might allow more light thru than a competitors cardboard filter, but you do realize that the material used is a translucent material and allows light to pass thru it.



its not a hydrolock condition, just a too lean/rich condition that can foul plugs and burn pistons.

Well, in theory the computer should throw a CEL well before any damage is done from being rich/lean...

Cars I've seen with oiled up MAFs tend to run on the rich side and kills performance... clean the MAF and the problem goes away... plugs may be a little bit fouled but that's usually about it...

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by scrming

Well, in theory the computer should throw a CEL well before any damage is done from being rich/lean...

Cars I've seen with oiled up MAFs tend to run on the rich side and kills performance... clean the MAF and the problem goes away... plugs may be a little bit fouled but that's usually about it...

in theory, a lot of things are supposed to happen. lol

but yes, the pcm should throw a code and drop to SD mode, but if it doesnt completely foul the MAF sensors up to the point of them not working (and thus, not throwing a code), then it can still cause a/f problems. which if not taken care of promptly can mess up the 02 sensor readings which further add to the problem.

and sometimes the MAF sensors are burned to the point where a simple cleaning wont suffice, a full replacement is required.

[bngummow]

can someone please get a dyno with the stock filter vs the drop in K&N filter? because every where iv looked, it just says that it allows for better air flow and preformance...no numbers to back it up. thanks

[gman1970]

Originally Posted by RS_Man

K & N is a JOKE. Their filter is overpriced and does not increase HP much more than a stock filter. I've had better luck with cheaper high performance filters you can buy from Autozone. I have run a couple vehicles on a dyno with a K&N vs cheap, and saw that the cheaper filters gave more gain. Basically you're paying for a name. I put together a short ram intake, virtually identical to a K&N setup for my truck, paid maybe $50 instead of $400 and got better results.

speak for yourself,as i have a k&n and i dynoed mine and i picked up 13 more hp so not so sure about your info:5thgenvert:

[scrming]

Originally Posted by gman1970

speak for yourself,as i have a k&n and i dynoed mine and i picked up 13 more hp so not so sure about your info:5thgenvert:

Think mainly he is talking about no gains with a simple drop in K&N... and then he did a DIY intake for $50 vs $400 for an actual K&N intake... so kind of to different subjects...

[gman1970]

Originally Posted by scrming

Think mainly he is talking about no gains with a simple drop in K&N... and then he did a DIY intake for $50 vs $400 for an actual K&N intake... so kind of to different subjects...

[Kahdir]

Forgot I posted this...

[xpanda305x]

^ could you find ur avvy in all black???

[Kahdir]

Originally Posted by xpanda305x

^ could you find ur avvy in all black???

Made it in Photoshop (Animations (Frames)) using screen cap images of the "Build Your Own" 2011 Camaro on Chevy's site.

[jmillsys]

Here is a reply I received from K&N yesterday concerning oil on the MAF sensor
Hello Jeff – Thank You for contacting K&N –

There are many blogs and websites that are misinformed – please review the attached link directly from our website regarding our filters; the oil and the MAF Sensor.

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm

If you have any lingering questions, please let me know and I will be happy to further discuss.

Kind Regards,

Cynthia R. Wert
International Account Manager
K&N ENGINEERING, INC.

[Cwrightbillion]

Tried installing this for my 2012 RS Camaro this morning, seems like the filter doesn't fit the size exactly. or maybe I'm placing the filter in the wrong way?

Anyone can give me some incite?