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[LS3 SS]

Originally Posted by axis

Man that stirs up a hornets nest. Invariably, someone makes that statement and the thread goes awry. They call in the two V6's that actually make good HP, and ride their nuts till it gets closed.

Some guys really convince themselves that they would rather have a V6 than a V8, and I can never take that statement seriously as a Camaro owner.

[TBone]

OK, serious question.

What are your thoughts on vendors that do not have a brick and mortar shop or a shop car?

T.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by TBone

OK, serious question.

What are your thoughts on vendors that do not have a brick and mortar shop or a shop car?

T.

I think it's fine if they just want to offer a product for a good price.

But it should stop there....

[Firefighter]

Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

Alright I spend too much time on this site. Without markings on my car all kinds of people are coming up to it asking what it is. Today at WAWA some idiot comes up to me and asks me if its stock. Blah blah blah then he tells me I should have left it stock cause its too loud (he should of heard it before i put the mufflers back on) he asked why I didn't leave it stock .... Then like I was in a trance ...
Why ?? Cause it's race car from 'merica and then walked away.

Love the comeback... some people just don't get it.

One of the guys at the station today is giving me a rash of chit because I'm trying to get my hands on a set of CTS-V brakes. He starts asking what's wrong with the ones on my car. I just looked at him and said if you don't get it now you never will.

Half the reason to get one of these cars is to make it better, faster, cleaner and yours. He drives an old Explorer Sport BTW...

[thahemp]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Love the comeback... some people just don't get it.

One of the guys at the station today is giving me a rash of chit because I'm trying to get my hands on a set of CTS-V brakes. He starts asking what's wrong with the ones on my car. I just looked at him and said if you don't get it now you never will.

Half the reason to get one of these cars is to make it better, faster, cleaner and yours. He drives an old Explorer Sport BTW...

Word. To each his own. We all have different goals.

[CHMSC]

Originally Posted by TBone

OK, serious question.

What are your thoughts on vendors that do not have a brick and mortar shop or a shop car?

T.

Doesn't matter to me as long as they have good prices and good customer service.

It is a big help to have an actual shop and car though. Makes it easier to help your customers that have questions since you can actually go look at the car and figure out the problem.

But not many shops are going to be able to have a car for every part they sell either.

[TBone]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Love the comeback... some people just don't get it.

One of the guys at the station today is giving me a rash of chit because I'm trying to get my hands on a set of CTS-V brakes. He starts asking what's wrong with the ones on my car. I just looked at him and said if you don't get it now you never will.

Half the reason to get one of these cars is to make it better, faster, cleaner and yours. He drives an old Explorer Sport BTW...

...and so am I.

Why are you trying to get the CTS-V pots? You do realize that you can make the stock ones perform just as well or better than them right?

Here is your roadmap:

Racing Brake rebuild kit with Stainless Steel Pistons.
Titanium Backing Plate.
Cobalt Friction XR-1 Pads (For the track ONLY)
Stainless Steel lines
Dot 4 fluid
Slotted Rotors (Quality ones like DBA or Racing Brake)

This is what I run on the track and I do JUST FINE. The numbers do not lie.

Besides, once you go CTS-V the rotors and pads, which are consumable items, are much more expensive to replace.

Just sayin.....

T.

[Nightmare2012]

Originally Posted by LS3 SS

I always find myself wanting to say that, but I don't want to be rude. It's always funny when some of those guys say "Should I go with magnaflow, or flowmaster exhaust?" LOL. When you're missing two cylinders, the sound your exhaust is going to make is very limited to two options : obnoxious, and very obnoxious.

Originally Posted by axis

Man that stirs up a hornets nest. Invariably, someone makes that statement and the thread goes awry. They call in the two V6's that actually make good HP, and ride their nuts till it gets closed.

Originally Posted by TBone

I always just want to say that.

T.

Originally Posted by LS3 SS

Some guys really convince themselves that they would rather have a V6 than a V8, and I can never take that statement seriously as a Camaro owner.

And then we remind those v6 guys why v8s are better when you have Darth emma superchargedss rhino diet coke etc. Running for the v8 team. Lol

[CHMSC]

Originally Posted by TBone

...and so am I.

Why are you trying to get the CTS-V pots? You do realize that you can make the stock ones perform just as well or better than them right?

Here is your roadmap:

Racing Brake rebuild kit with Stainless Steel Pistons.
Titanium Backing Plate.
Cobalt Friction XR-1 Pads (For the track ONLY)
Stainless Steel lines
Dot 4 fluid
Slotted Rotors (Quality ones like DBA or Racing Brake)

This is what I run on the track and I do JUST FINE. The numbers do not lie.

Besides, once you go CTS-V the rotors and pads, which are consumable items, are much more expensive to replace.

Just sayin.....

T.

That is my plan for now until I get some RB calipers.

[TBone]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

I think it's fine if they just want to offer a product for a good price.

But it should stop there....

I agree. Because if you do not install the stuff how can you offer advice.

Originally Posted by CHMSC

Doesn't matter to me as long as they have good prices and good customer service.

It is a big help to have an actual shop and car though. Makes it easier to help your customers that have questions since you can actually go look at the car and figure out the problem.

But not many shops are going to be able to have a car for every part they sell either.

Good point. But I have called one of these places with a tech question and they were CLUELESS because they did not install or have even ONE shop car of ANY kind. And they are not any less expensive than others when you factor in shipping.

I would rather support a place that actually does installs and has at least one, even a personal, car so I knew they knew what they were talking about.

For example:
Jordan and Co. @ JDP Motorsports
Matt @ FSP
Rob @ Wretched Motorsports
Bruce and Co. @ Raymonds Performance
Nineball @ Deviate Motoring
Justice Pete @ Pedders
THE LETHAL BOYS (They are just Bad@ss)

These are all folks I have either bought from or talked to for advice on technical questions and would recommend in a HEARTBEAT. I know I have forgotten quite a few but you get the idea. $hit, if I listed them all I would be here ALL night.

They all have Brick and Mortar shops and have walked the walk in some form or fashion so I trust them enough to buy from them or take their advice. Plus their prices are usually equally competitive if you give them a call and let them know you saw it somewhere else cheaper. There are other vendors on this board that spew advice that have no shop, no car and I do not think know how to turn a wrench.

Sure, customer service is great and the prices are cheap but why should we support them over someone who has a building, lighting, heat and employees to pay for? Thus keeping this great country, and economy, rolling right along? (Ok, that last part was kinda cheesy but....\Because America!)

T.

[TBone]

Originally Posted by CHMSC

That is my plan for now until I get some RB calipers.

See, I have been watching that thread too but you notice how there has been NO mention of PRICE!!!! And again you get locked into proprietary rotors and pads. Again I see big $$$$$ on consumable items.

I am not saying I am not drooling over them but I am leary. Especially with minimum layout I have really great brakes. Hell, my DBA 4000 slotted rotors have lasted, street and track, since last spring. Granted I garage her for 4-6 months during the winter but still.

Of course I do not see the high heat you guys do in SoCal. But I hear it is a dry heat. (I have been to Ft. Irwin in the Desert and it sucked, and do not get me started on LA)

T.

[CHMSC]

Originally Posted by TBone

I agree. Because if you do not install the stuff how can you offer advice.



Good point. But I have called one of these places with a tech question and they were CLUELESS because they did not install or have even ONE shop car of ANY kind. And they are not any less expensive than others when you factor in shipping.

I would rather support a place that actually does installs and has at least one, even a personal, car so I knew they knew what they were talking about.

For example:
Jordan and Co. @ JDP Motorsports
Matt @ FSP
Rob @ Wretched Motorsports
Bruce and Co. @ Raymonds Performance
Nineball @ Deviate Motoring
Justice Pete @ Pedders
THE LETHAL BOYS (They are just Bad@ss)

These are all folks I have either bought from or talked to for advice on technical questions and would recommend in a HEARTBEAT. I know I have forgotten quite a few but you get the idea. $hit, if I listed them all I would be here ALL night.

They all have Brick and Mortar shops and have walked the walk in some form or fashion so I trust them enough to buy from them or take their advice. Plus their prices are usually equally competitive if you give them a call and let them know you saw it somewhere else cheaper. There are other vendors on this board that spew advice that have no shop, no car and I do not think know how to turn a wrench.

Sure, customer service is great and the prices are cheap but why should we support them over someone who has a building, lighting, heat and employees to pay for? Thus keeping this great country, and economy, rolling right along? (Ok, that last part was kinda cheesy but....\Because America!)

T.

I completely agree. I avoid buying from vendors who don't have a shop unless the others just can't get anywhere near their price. I have paid more from some vendors just to support them and know if I needed to ask a question they could help me.

Originally Posted by TBone

See, I have been watching that thread too but you notice how there has been NO mention of PRICE!!!! And again you get locked into proprietary rotors and pads. Again I see big $$$$$ on consumable items.

I am not saying I am not drooling over them but I am leary. Especially with minimum layout I have really great brakes. Hell, my DBA 4000 slotted rotors have lasted, street and track, since last spring. Granted I garage her for 4-6 months during the winter but still.

Of course I do not see the high heat you guys do in SoCal. But I hear it is a dry heat. (I have been to Ft. Irwin in the Desert and it sucked, and do not get me started on LA)

T.

Man it is hell on brakes out here. I live in the desert so it is usually dry but can be humid. Those RB brakes are freaking awesome man! I used their pads for the road course last weekend and they were so bad ass! My buddy is the guy with the RB thread. Those calipers are freaking huge! They are probably as big as a 6 piston and the pads are the same size on the four piston as the 6 piston ctsv brakes. I am eventually going to get the RB calipers. Hard to beat the internal dust seals. My seals are going to need to be replaced soon after last weekend.

http://www.racingbrake.com/Brake-Kit...2-p/2138-k.htm

Price has been out for a little while man. They just got done with Blake's calipers just in time for last weekends road course....the first set made for our cars...they looked awesome and performed great. Blake said they were like the throttle lol took a little getting use to but worked awesome and the control was unreal.

No you don't get locked into rotors or pads. They are all based off the stock rotor size and the pads are a general size that other vendors make.

Use standard FMSI brake pads : A very common P/N (D1149) is used with these calipers.

[CHMSC]

Here is a link to just the calipers

http://www.racingbrake.com/ProductDe...ctCode=2138-PU

[TBone]

No shit..... hmmmmmmm. Of course it is extra for blue.

Maybe over the winter I could do this and the gears and the Nightfury cam and the heads and the....

BTW, have you seen this thread?
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309541
This guy seems like one of us. I invited him over.

Ok, gotta rack out. Of to MI in the morning for some Vacation time for the better half's birthday. Woooo Hoooooo.

T.